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Hi, I'm high.
Concrete evidence of evolution is between your fingers and toes, and in the corner of your eyes.
Where do you think the "webs" we used for swimming, and the "second-eyelid" to keep the water out, went? A little ball in the corner of our eye and disproportionate hands and feet.
Crocodilians, along with birds, are the only survivors of the once-prevalent Archosauria. During the Mesozoic (245-65 million years ago) this group, including dinosaurs and other reptiles, dominated life on all continents and in the oceans. Most or all of crocodilians' adaptations had already evolved by the late Triassic (about 200 million years ago). Crocodilians are the most advanced surviving reptiles; many of their features are more similar to mammals or birds than to other reptiles.
Crocodilians' eyes are immobile spheres covered by three eyelids: the third eyelid, the nictitating membrane, is transparent, but protects the eye from water.
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed...rocodilia.html
Hey dude, I'm high too (hense my 2 page essay on whatever I was talking about above...sorry if I tend to ramble :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
On one side of the argument, you could look at the "webs" (to be honest, it takes a lot of imagination to see them as such) and the second eyelid as an argument for evolution. We obviously needed to develope these things if we were to survive in water.
On the other side of you have an argument in favor of an intellegent designer. We ARE able to survive almost anywhere on our planet, and it seems that this second eyelid (something I have only thought of when you mentioned it) and the webbing between our fingers and toes makes us properly suited for water. Why should we believe that these things needed to evolve in order to exist? Why wouldn't we just happen to be creatures (the only creatures) that can comfortably adjust between land (any) and water. Even a frog must stay where its moist.
The question isn't in the evidence, because somewhere in that evidence is a true answer, and a false answer, and obviously people are in disagreement between the two.
See, I think there is a lot more to learn from animals that have actually been around that long. My only quarrel with this information (other than the time lines that they propose) is that if most crocodilians had already evolved by the late Triassic period (200 million years ago) than an overwhelming amount of change should have occured since that time, wouldn't you think? Realistically humans evolved over something like 60 million years (according) into what we now are and this crocodile seems to be content with it's current state.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Yes, a lot have changed. Into Humans!!! A lot haven't been fortunate enough to make genetic mistakes.
Which really gets me thinking? Maybe Crocs are God?
Currently, the function of the appendix, if any, remains controversial in the field of human physiology.
Hypothesized functions for the appendix include lymphatic, exocrine, endocrine, and neuromuscular. However, most physicians and scientists believe the appendix lacks significant function, and that it exists primarily as a vestigial remnant of the larger cellulose-digesting cecum found in our herbivorous ancestors.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...iform+appendix
why cant both theories be correct, to a point. maybe god created stuff and then evolution started. that makes more sense than lightning striking primordial soup and creation life and it makes more sense than god creating the world in a couple days.
so there, i geuss you all dont have anything to argue about now that i'm right.
My stance is I don't beleave ether, but I do consider most modern religions as baseless, so I said evolution. God can't make you if there is no god....
I believe in Creation but adaptation. God created everything in the beginning then species adapted for survival.
The science shown to support evolution keeps faling. carbon dating has been proven inacurate. There's no transitional fossils to support one species veoled to another.
the Bible holds up under true scientific scrutiny.
Here's link to the 2005 Scientific Breakthrough Of The Year, " Evolution In Action".
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten.../310/5756/1878
And here's an excerpt:
All in the family
One of the most dramatic results came in September, when an international team published the genome of our closest relative, the chimpanzee. With the human genome already in hand, researchers could begin to line up chimp and human DNA and examine, one by one, the 40 million evolutionary events that separate them from us.
The genome data confirm our close kinship with chimps: We differ by only about 1% in the nucleotide bases that can be aligned between our two species, and the average protein differs by less than two amino acids. But a surprisingly large chunk of noncoding material is either inserted or deleted in the chimp as compared to the human, bringing the total difference in DNA between our two species to about 4%.
Somewhere in this catalog of difference lies the genetic blueprint for the traits that make us human: sparse body hair, upright gait, the big and creative brain. We're a long way from pinpointing the genetic underpinnings of such traits, but researchers are already zeroing in on a few genes that may affect brain and behavior. This year, several groups published evidence that natural selection has recently favored a handful of uniquely human genes expressed in the brain, including those for endorphins and a sialic acid receptor, and genes involved in microcephaly.
The hunt for human genes favored by natural selection will be sped by newly published databases from both private and public teams, which catalog the genetic variability among living people. For example, this year an international team cataloged and arranged more than a million single-nucleotide polymorphisms from four populations into the human haplotype map, or HapMap. These genetic variations are the raw material of evolution and will help reveal recent human evolutionary history.
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Chimp champ. Clint, the chimpanzee whose genome sequence researchers published this year (CREDIT: YERKES NATIONAL PRIMATE RESEARCH CENTER)