Some front line views of the war against God.

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Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime

Biblical age of earth 6000-10000 years.

Actual age several million - 100 million years.

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Well, of course the Earth is not 6k-10k years old, but it's definitely more than 100 million years. Last I heard it was estimated be around 4 billion years old. But of course, that could be incorrect. I have a feeling it could be much older than that. But that's just my feeling.

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Originally Posted by greg23

He's got you there.

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No, I was saying "OKKKAAYYY" in a Lil Jon voice, just like he said "WHAAAAAT." It was a joke ;).

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Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine

For the second, and last, time...this is not where I got my information. I paraphrased from...oh, forget it. Just see for yourself: http://www.answersingenesis.org/radi...rbondating.pdf

Now that you know where my source originated from, you can take your foot out of your mouth.

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and answersingenesis.org is credible????:wtf:
Its a Christian website you fool. The name says it all, Answers in Genesis. Try looking for answers in the real world.

Your boring me now so i'll leave you to it.

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Originally Posted by mfqr

Well, of course the Earth is not 6k-10k years old, but it's definitely more than 100 million years. Last I heard it was estimated be around 4 billion years old. But of course, that could be incorrect. I have a feeling it could be much older than that. But that's just my feeling.

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Ye, your right. My mistake, shoulda put a + on the end.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine

"That theological discussions and probably discourse took place is almost certain, because the mythology of the religion evolved, becoming more complete, sophisticated and more complex over time." [B](By the addition of new gods showing up and old gods being forgotten frequently.)

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1 more thing... no need to add your own interpretation




Set has been worshiped since predynastic times. The first representation of Set that has been found was on a carved ivory comb, an Amratian artifact. He was also shown on the Scorpion macehead. He was worshiped and placated through Egyptian history until the Third Intermediate Period where he was seen as an evil and undesirable force. From this time on, some of his statues were re-carved to become the statues of other gods, and it was said that he had actually been defeated by the god Horus.
Egypt: Set (Seth), God of Storms, Slayer of Apep, Equal to and Rival of Horus

Set along with many other gods were worshiped for several thousand years. 2000+years

Predynastic times.. 3100-5100+ BC
Egypt: Upper Egyptian Neolithic and Predynastic Religion and Rulers, A Feature Tour Egypt Story
Egypt: History - Predynastic Period


3rd Intermediate .. 664-1069 BC
Egypt in the Third Intermediate Period


Also, does any of this sound familiar?
examples of famous births on december 25th besides that of jesus

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

The media would have you believe that there is a huge debate on the validity of evolution, but there are very few scientists who are actually debating it, only people who havent even studied evolution are saying there should be a debate.

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Indeed that seems to be the case, as a Brit I didn't even know there was a debate outside of the U.S until I came onto this website ;) seems like its a hot topic though.

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Originally Posted by Canadian_Cron

no, in a theory u believe it or you dont. theres no other conditions involved you either believe that man evolved from the great apes or they didnt, end of story (no morals or ethics involved).

a faith/religion is much more complex than that. a faith has a bunch of moral values (ethics) attached to it. like the 10 comandments is the basic foundation of the christian faith along with the idea that god created the world and man. if you believe in that religion you will follow most of them (as well as other practises by the church) and also some practises and ethics that people who do not have that faith wouldnt normally follow.

and yes im sure that most people who arent religious dont comit murder and all that as well, but thats not beacuse of the ethics or morals that would be involved in the theory of evolution. they made those choices based on what they think not because the theory of evolution told them to, and thats one difference.

another difference is that a theory is not stated as a fact, and if you listen to any religion they're not like ok we think but were not 100% sure that god created the world... they state it as a fact that god did create man and the world.

theories are not stated as a fact, and they let you set you own morals and ethics, a faith or religion tells you what they are or should be and states their views as facts.

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Mr. Clandestine you still havent responded to my previous post...?

ok first let me state i am an artist not a scientist.
i have question: radio carbon dating is the prossess of messuring the amount of decay that has taken place in cabon 14 correct? so if there is more carbon 14 then wouldnt that make something look younger than it would older? also if only a lving thing can absorb carbon 14, wich it quits doing at the time of its demise, what would it matter if the levels were higher now? i just cant see the argumnt with the inrease in the level now as aposed to the past. because from my understanding carbn 14 degrades into a nitrgen atom and that specific atom can be messured there by giving you an amount of carbon in the atmosphere at the time. i would say without a shadow of a doubt that this is not the first time i history that atmospheric carbon levels have changed.

one other thing i would like to say is that i DID in fact study creation in school. being an artist i studied many forms of art one being litterature. i studied the creation "theory" right in the class where it belongs.mythology. because that is exacly what it is. a myth.
i had to right a paper on the differant gods once, well the subject i chose some would call sacrilage. my paper was titled "the death of god" . simply put is the fact that a hindu beleives as strongly in the existance of shiva as a christian believes in the existance of "god". same with all religions the greeks believed as strongly in their gods as any one else. but now these gods are "dead". why? thats easy people quit believing. so what brings these gods into being? same thing, belief. so it is within mans power to create or destroy a god or to give him power or make him powerless. so if there were no christian or jews there would be no god ,if there is no god then he could not have created us, it is a myth. and myths are not science. i am by no means an atheist i beleive in the oldest of all religions, nature. that is what created us.

I have no faith anymore, i do not believe in a God. I am now an Atheistic, Existentialist, Preference Utilitarian.

Stein speaks the truth.

btw, isn't that the guy from the clear-eyes commercials?