what told us that "God's" name is God?? haha, that shows right there that "God" is made up
And if you say thats his name because of the bible, then where did the bible get the name from??
,peace
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what told us that "God's" name is God?? haha, that shows right there that "God" is made up
And if you say thats his name because of the bible, then where did the bible get the name from??
,peace
and if u say the bible got it from jesus then your easily saying that any random person can get some dumbasses attention, tell them that theres a person who created us named Arnold, and have those dumbasses make more dumbasses believe this, then a hundreds of people will start believing this and start and writing story's about you and Arnold (the Bible) And as time passes and people will read all the stoires and see all the people who believe in Arnold and join this religion. Now with all these people following this religion, you cant deny that Arnold is the creator of all becuase majority rules. And if you did try to say there was no such thing as Arnold, they will just point to books as proof.
Now thinking of this, if i could get enough people to believe this, i really could start a new religion! seriously
,peace
Several Points. You never know , I may have the Secret of The Universe all wrapped up in a bow... Well if you want to re visualize the vast Space /Time and call it god thats peachy. But thats not the Feller people been tellin me about in all those Sunday school classes I took.. Its not the one my preacher relatives are talking about..Loudly talking about.... So if you wish to Interpret your religion thats fine but the point is if each bunch of people define their gods by their own interpretations then it is only Faith and thats does not relate to Science in anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
If you have your faith and it makes you do good stuff thats fine but you can't try to alter it to fit the real world.
God is NOT a name, it's a title. God has a name, but religion fails to know it!Quote:
Originally Posted by headydankness
God came in the flesh, and performed alot of miracles in front of their eyes, and so people still believe in him till this day! ;)
Sounds like we should be worshiping at the thrown of the Almighty Chris Angel.. Hallo It Be Thy Name...Quote:
Originally Posted by GROWin GRACE
And... Pisst... Hallo.. It Be Thy Name... Hint...
God does not exist because no human being whatsoever deserves to go to Heaven.
The Earth may be heaven. And, Sylvia Brown said "in ten to fifteen years, we will be talking to the dead like they're standing right next to us. Because this world is becoming more spiritual."
Sounds good to me.
Enjoy your last weekend in thongs beachguy! :D
Why's that? And, I prefer G-strings.
edit: The weather?
;) Don't the beaches close after this weekend in your area too?
Doesn't sound too good to me.. Think about all that A'Holes that have died.. My luck they will all have my Email addyQuote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
I agree that in ten to fifteen years we will be talking to the dead... cause all of us will be there...Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
The end is near! Beware!
No, the beaches are open year-round. Maybe, not with lifeguards on duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
I do agree so myself. There is a force "behind the curtain" may it be "God", Buddha, or the force we call nature ( I subscribe to the latter ) I like to keep an open mind about everything though and respect most opinions. long story short, If it brings someone comfort and meaning let it be, to each his own. :smokin:Quote:
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Originally Posted by someuser View Post
My one sentence answer:
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Because God does NOT exist as the personification we give him/her.
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Remember, God (or by whatever name you call the force/energy responsible for all of creation) is beyond comprehension by our relatively small and puny intellects. In order to relate to such an incomprehensible/unimaginable energy we create personifications such as God(s), angels, ect. All these concepts, whether you realize it or not, are of one and the same.
By taking the personifications too far and personally we create human fallacies which are incompatible with logic and science.
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Originally Posted by mrdevious
God Does not Exist because the bible has been proven a lie!
God Does not Exist because dinosaurs lived millions of years ago!
God Does not Exist because it is a figment of our imaginations!
God Does not Exist because it Does Not!!!!!!
A sentence? How about 3 words?
System of Control
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Originally Posted by mrdevious
The Bible is actually not so much a lie but, due to miss translations , selective editing and removal of whole books by people who thought that they would compromised the religion as a whole by adding it in and so forth...This has all watered down and altered the meaning of what it really is, also a lot of the stories in the bible are also taken from other mythological stories that predate the bible by thousands of years... like the story of Christ... very interesting stuff for the debating table if you ask me.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime
hehehe i like that one. you can boil that down to one word, "control" or maybe "fear" would work.Quote:
Originally Posted by mfqr
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Originally Posted by temujin8
Agreed FEAR
You will believe in god or you will go to hell ... God is FAKE and loves nobody.
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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Are you saying that you go to the beach in a g-string in the winter with no lifeguards around? :D
Hah, no.
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Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime
That is absolutley pathetic reasoning. He must exist because you believe he does? He must exist because the bible says so? Because you have faith? LOLOLOLOL
The bible was written by man!
I cant believe your so narrow minded as to live your life around a 2000year old lie, which has been rewritten several times. And proved! wrong countless times.
Infact i dont really care anymore. Enjoy your ignorant life. I'l waste no more of my time here! :thumbsup:
Its the Way.. B'Levers B'Leve.. Its why I don't debate religion (much) You'll find that what you think are intelligent people will suspend rational thought when they B'Leve.. It matters not what is Evidence or Proof as they never understand those terms. They will Say Look all around at the way life works and It Is Proof of God because someone had to make such complicated things. That is a sign they have no idea what constitutes Proof or Even Evidence. I've been called names and said to live such a sad life because of my motto : " I Believe in nothing... I Know, I think I know or I Do Not Know ... I never Believe "Quote:
Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime
I have no gripe with B'Levers who use that to do good and live a life of helping others and following their own paths. Its only when they start the "My Gods Better that Your God" stuff, which leads to death and war, do I shutter at the thought.
B'Levers have killed millions upon millions of people since the first gods were thought up way before recorded history. And now those of an Islamic god seek to kill those of a Hebrew god and a Hindu god ...why? Because my gods better than your god...
If not for B'Levers the Library of Alexander would be standing today and we would be 500 years ahead in science and technology, The Black plague would not have been so bad, and today we may have already had outpost on other planets.. But nope.. and Why... Because my gods better than your god...
How exactly did you show that you are broad minded? Just because you disagree with me, makes me narrow minded? Believing the bible doesn't make a person narrow minded. Are unbelievers narrow minded cause they don't believe in the bible? And a person who does not beleive in the bible, is just as ignorant as the one who does. The only difference between the two, is what they beleive! :pimp:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime
It's not about intelligence. Are you claiming that you are more intelligent than every believer? Did you read the locked thread named "a path to faith with science? He believed in God and seemed to be full of scientific intelligence. What about all the scientists who believe in God? Do they lack intelligence? By the way, what is your IQ? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Quantummist
While NiA had intelligence, he was full of assumptions as well. He may have intelligence to go with many of his assumptions, but claimed his assumptions as truth with no room for error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
I can't help myself.. So into the lions den I rush head long....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
Narrow Minded means that you have a set view of the world around you and do not change that view even when presented with Evidence. Either Believers or Non believers can be narrow minded.. But Only Non-Believers can be Broad Minded..
As for the bible if you think god stuck down his hand and inspired its words by the men who wrote it. you must first educate on ALL its books and why some letters were stuck between the cover and others were held back. If you think it is as it has always been, then you have no idea of the Documented variations of it that Predate Jesus times.. Then if you Interpret even one passage to make it fit the real world you then are placing your own version out there..
SO if you Believe the bible is the Inspired Word Of God then you must read it and consider each word and concept as is. So you Must Believe that the world is 6000 years old, You must believe that Adam & Eve were incestuous ..(remember 2 sons) , You Must Believe that the Whole Globe was completely covered in water within the last 6000 years, You Must Believe that Man Kind is the Center of the Universe, You Must Believe the Jesus was Gay..(Opps Sorry ..thats one of the books that someone inspired by God thought better left out), You Must Believe that the Testable reality around you is a farce and theres an alternate mystical reality thats all around us, You Must Believe that Dino's are and were always just rocks in the ground.
If You Believe any differently or try to fit your Beliefs to the observed universe you are imposing you view on the Word of God.
So if you wish to debate religion and You Believe you Must stick to the word as written in Your bible. You can't come up with New explanations on why what we can Test and Observe is in opposition to the Word. You can't propose "What is Meant By That is" on any passages in that book. Its the Inspired Word Of God and as such if you have to explain anything in it that is in debate by Only the text within.
If you think men wrote it for their own reasons then you can tear it apart with Interpretation all you wish..
Apply what you just preached and share with me where it says in the bible that the Earth is 6000 years old?
The Earth being 6k years old is a private interpretation! :jointsmile:
I was saying that it's not about intelligence. He had scientific intelligence but it had nothing to do with him speaking truth. I think you know where I'm coming from. I don't think either side can prove their side. The proof that I have is invisible so I know It can't be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
Did you see the song I posted in the music forum? :D
The music..... needed work. eef!
Never said anyone lacked intelligence, said they suspended rational thought.. and its 171 if you must know..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
As I said.. What I have perceived as intelligent people set aside rational thought when they strive to believe. And yes I have debated rather well positioned physicists that fall into the requirement of redefining The Word of God if you also have a knowledge base in the sciences. The Only way you can understand the principles of science and believe is to rewrite the word to fit that which we observe. If you have to do that then the main basis of believing has been falsified.
"SO if you Believe the bible is the Inspired Word Of God then you must read it and consider each word and concept as is. So you Must Believe that the world is 6000 years old"
Common trend here. People who don't beleive the bible or don't understand it, throw things out there that they can't back up. Since you made the statement, why don't you tell us why a person who believes the bible must believe that the earth is 6000 years old? :wtf:
Personally, I can't follow faith blindly. For me it's too much bullshit and un-logical reasoning for me too follow. I feel like if there is really heaven out there I can live a good life without a "holy" book just as good as any other christian and I should be accepted into that heavenly society. And if not, fuck that then. I don't want to be included into it.
Why is that believers feel that it's logical to believe in God and unbelievers feel that it's illogical? Does it really come down to logic? :wtf:
God does not exist because HE wouldn't let the love of my life whom I cherish more then words could ever begin to describe stop loving me. and her and I would have not had this static between us that led to our downfall.
God does not exist because I would have murdered him if he did. in the most painfullest way.
The Book of GenesisQuote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
Here you go... you do the math... Many of the local churches down here teach that the earth is 6 k old and Dinos were made as fossils to give the earth a look of old.. And if you take a few moments you will find Many,Many ref's to those that think the same way.. The earth is 6 k Old.. anything older is an act of god to make it look old.. So if you go through Genesis and add up the life spans and when/where buried you come up with 6 k years.. Not My idea.. its the B'Levers Idea...
To Believe is to refuse Logic. Thats to Believe in ANYTHING.. The moment you say I believe you give up logic for religion in any field you believe. Religion is not just about god or gods.. Religion is the act of Believing anything even when presented with the flaw of that belief . Thats called Logic.. If I Believe that 1 + 1 =3 its religion and Logic fails to alter the believer..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
Why do unbelievers thank belief is illogical... simple because it Is. that is if you know what is meant by Logic.
I really don't understand how you bible believers can support such things. The bible is completely repulsive, and sexist. It supports killing people. It supports the oppression of women. It supports slavery. If you have read the bible, you know this. So tell me, why would you support such a thing?
Do you think the world is 6000 years old because it's what other religions preach to you or because you read it in the bible? Genesis is a very large book to read, and I have read it and didn't come to the same conclusion as you, so can you be more specific on the text that leads you to believe the earth is 6k years? I don't think it's fair to say that if we believe the bible we MUST beleive the earth is 6k years old and then you DON'T provide the text that says this. It sounds to me, that this belief you have about the earth being 6000 years old is your personal reasoning about the bible. I don't think you should listen to anyone about the bible, including me. Read it for yourself. Then accuse what's written in it, don't accuse the bible for something it DOESN'T say. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantummist
And I'm not gonna go back and forth with you about this point any longer cause you're entitled to your opinion. But I was curious to what your source was, and now I know. Peace! :jointsmile: