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Buying packaged meat is fine in my oppinion. It's the people that eat meat but say hunting is cruel, and they would never gut the animal, or do the dirty work. They are the ones that are retards. If you can't kill animals hunting, then don't eat meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Az.
That link that was posted that is anti-vegetarian sounds like it was written by a narrow minded dick....
....lol....saying shit like "vetarians think they are saving the world by not eating meat"....lol......i think he missed the point....
what i meant was pretty much what you said.....i have nothing against eating meat....absolutly nothing against it......however!...eating packaged meat that has come from animals that have been mistreated/tortured/left to die slowly by humansthat just want to make a profit out of it is not the way to go......Quote:
Originally Posted by activedenial
....if i had my way in this world everyone would still be hunting for their food.
There are 3 main reasons to be a vegan- specific health benefits, religious purposes, and thinking that you're so much better than everyone else because eating one kind of organism instead of both somehow makes the world better. That narrow-minded dick was criticizing the last one, and if he was making no sense, his site wouldn't be as popular as it is. Many people (maybe most) believe he makes a good point. Normal people are sick of better than thou bullshit propanganda and shitty tasting veggie burgers.Because it seems that only one side is actually citing any information, I'm gonna let your side prove something.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
My belief is that because it takes more plants to satisfy a human, we would need roughly the same amount of shit harvested if everyone were veggies than what we are right now. I believe that being vegetarian would either do nothing or even raise the amount of shit harvested, and if that's true, being vegetarian does nothing to prevent animal cruelty, as the cruelty involved in harvesting is wore than the cruelty in slaughterhouses.
You believe that if we were all vegans, we'd need to grow less crops. I want to see a link to an actual study. If you provide that, I'll stop making that point.
yea i get your point...i just dont think animal cruelty is right......imagine if for some reason packaged meat suddenly stopped being produced....lmao....like worldwide...no sausage, chops, burgers, steak.....UNLESS you hunted the cow....(which wouldnt actually be that hard come to think of it)....and skinned, gutted, beheaded it, cut the different parts of meat out.....thats how i would prefere to live if it stopped slughterhouses mistreating animals....
.....however saying that i saw a programme called tribe the other night and this dude went deeeeep into some forest and met with this tribe, and he lived with them for a little while......this tribe in one of their religious ceremonies hung a cow...like rope round a cows neck and raised off the ground (they did eat it btw)......not as harsh as cutting a bull's bals off, with what looks like scissors though. but if that was in a western country they would be stopped imediatly for causing undue stress and pain to an animal...
I'm trying to get across the point that most slaughterhouses aren't cruel at all. The aniaml does nothing its whole life, gets free food, and when they're at their prime, they get a painless, thingy in their neck, if I may quote from nochowderforyou. "They had a machine where the pigs went into, no windows or something, a dark boix, and an electrode goes into their throat shutting off their brain, painless (so they say). That's what most plants are."
Most likely these videos were made by PETA themselves.
i will not watch the video because it will break my heart. im not much of a meat person, but i do love veggies and fruit and one day mayb will limit myself from all meat, try tellin my cook that though, lol
what do u want them to do,, pet the cows and say its all gonna be ok,, haha,,we all die in the end,, so fuck it
mmmm , steak
Plastic sheeting?Quote:
Originally Posted by BaseRSX
I never heard of this, please explain.
wow that really changed my perspctive on meat. :( ... but im still gonna eat it anyway. :thumbsup:
You're assuming that the food going to cows would instead go to humans. Try looking up what cows eat and tell me if you'd enjoy it. Animals can eat things that we can't. The things that animals eat often grow in places that our plant food cannot be grown. The point is unsubstantiated.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious