Emmies Grow Log - White Widow

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Originally Posted by emilya

#4 was stressed from the very start. He was a J root when "dummy me" plopped him in the dirt upside down. :upsidedow[*]The second factor is that I am an inexperienced grower. Not only did I stress these plants from the very beginning, I kept terrorizing them throughout at least the first half of their lives. It is possible that I took a perfectly good little girl and scared her so badly that she switched sides. :eek:[/LIST]
More experimentation is needed.

Here are the pictures... please discuss. I am here to learn.
Emmie

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Just one growers opinion, but I don't think anything you did actually caused it to be a male. Possibility I suppose that you could have influenced the outcome, but typically when people talk about stressing plants into becoming male it's on a plant that had already shown itself to be female.

Odds on this one are that it was a male from the very start. IMHO, looks to be a happy healthy male to me too. It doesn't look to me like you stressed it all that much.

In my experience putting seeds in dirt with taproot down is a wives tale. Maybe it causes them to emerge from soil a day later than they would have, or possibly may cause underground entanglement of roots or something crazy to that effect, but I have put plenty of seeds into dirt haphazardly and never had any issue with it. Thankfully MJ DNA recognizes gravity and automatically grows in the opposite direction for us:thumbsup:

We have another confirmed sexing and a correct assumption using the coloring method...

#2 has been spotted sporting a new double pistil on one of her upper internodes today! It's a girl! There is no way I can get my camera to show you this... but soon... very soon.

The new camera with the micro mode... with 18x optical zoom and focus down to 3mm... the very good buy on ebay... my new fujifilm digital camera is on its way. Check this out... Fujifilm FinePix S2800 14 MP 3.0 LCD Digital Camera | BeachCamera.com For $179.00 not bad at all. Emmie will soon be known far and wide as a the girl with the great camera, but with absolutely no concept of how to frame a good shot or set a white balance.

These are the trials and tribulations we all must face I guess, each in our own way. I truly hope yours are not as debilitating.

Emmie

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Originally Posted by emilya

The new camera with the micro mode... with 18x optical zoom and focus down to 3mm... the very good buy on ebay... my new fujifilm digital camera is on its way. Check this out... Fujifilm FinePix S2800 14 MP 3.0 LCD Digital Camera | BeachCamera.com For $179.00 not bad at all. Emmie will soon be known far and wide as a the girl with the great camera, but with absolutely no concept of how to frame a good shot or set a white balance.

These are the trials and tribulations we all must face I guess, each in our own way. I truly hope yours are not as debilitating.

Emmie

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Your not the only one to go thru those pains of learning a new device,....

I hate my camera,... $500 bux shoots great vids, and AWESOME detail in every other kind of pic I want to take,... but take a pic of a bud,... out of focus, sorry. :mad:

Ok so not really that bad, but I erase 75% of the bud shots I take:(


So maybe i'm wacked,.... but your sexing thing IS working out? The last pics you posted are male, Keep him to breed your own seeds.

But was "HE" suspected or not? Your last post made it sound like the girl wasn't a surprise at all.

Cripes Emmi No 4 is a twisty in the story thus far. Oh well instead of 'she's a pretty girl' its 'he's a little stud'. A nice plant either way and I also doubt it was anything you did to make 'her' a 'him'.

My last camera was a Fuji Finepix and I loved it but unfortunately the Finepix didn't love the Fine sand that blew all into the insides and stuffed it up. Takes time to get the hang of a new camera but if the new version is as good as the older ones then you'll get some great photos.

Canni it was No 4 who had earlier been the smaller one and suspected of being a little girl but now is displaying his family jewels.
Then there is also No 2 who was all along suspected of being a girl - and so she is.
I think that's right.... and the plot thickens as there's still the other 2 plants.

wow,..... smoked a little of the "Quick dry" box last night,.... I now know why this stuff is such a legend. 1 hit and my lightweight self was out of it. :bonghit: :stoned:

I'm excited that you've got at least 1 girl and hoping that you'll turn out more!

Looking forward to flowering! :hippy:

I think they could have been stressed enough to go male, who knows. It is only a theory. I am glad you got at least one female Emmie. That is what is truly important, not proving my theory right or wrong.... If the seed appearance thing works, that might be better anyway and I am experimenting with sprouting and identifying sex, not necessarily growing out, just experimenting. Not enough data yet to know with any confidence any truths.

EDIT: By the way, note how the red is so brilliant and it goes all the way around the leaf petiole? Might be a slight nute deficiency there.

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

I think they could have been stressed enough to go male, who knows. It is only a theory. I am glad you got at least one female Emmie. That is what is truly important, not proving my theory right or wrong.... If the seed appearance thing works, that might be better anyway and I am experimenting with sprouting and identifying sex, not necessarily growing out, just experimenting. Not enough data yet to know with any confidence any truths.

EDIT: By the way, note how the red is so brilliant and it goes all the way around the leaf petiole? Might be a slight nute deficiency there.

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I'm thinking you are right WW. I am noticing a bit of yellowing all of a sudden today. My order of the FoxFarms trio should be here tomorrow... I will hit them on the next watering. As far as the red, do you mean there on the top down picture?

Finished up the second tent's ventilation today and moved #4 to his new digs. I am waiting to see what happens and then will pick the best male to produce some pollen to bring back to my female very carefully. I will probably put the lucky winner into flower very soon and collect the pollen for later when the female(s) are ready. As fast as #4 matured makes him a strong contender for that spot already.

I looked and looked at our 2 remaining and could not decide one way or the other. I think that #1 is about ready to show, and I am betting that this is going to be another boy... I think I am seeing one starting to form on a stalk and think I might see some clustering... I am watching...

#3 is the one I am most confused about. Keep in mind this is the one that looked different than the rest all along. It seems to be a lot further away from maturity than the rest and there are just a few sites starting to develop that will indicate sex. Still waiting on the new camera to be able to get a better look at it.

I figure we are still several weeks from going to flower, but I might be surprised yet again. Several tasks are ahead for the girl(s) in the crowd including re-potting, cloning, FIM and starting to train on the SCRog screen as we recover from all this attention and start growing again.

Right now, the 3 still in the main tent are standing at about 9".

Someone make the snow stop here in the midwest... this is quite enough.

Emmie

No the second and third pictures. First one looks awesome.

Now, I don't know about anyone else, but it seems early to have any show.....to me......

Yellowing could be lack of water.

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

No the second and third pictures. First one looks awesome.

Now, I don't know about anyone else, but it seems early to have any show.....to me......

Yellowing could be lack of water.

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Watered last night, so we will see. I am seeing other signs of nute deficiency now in #1 again. He seems very sensitive. He is exhibiting slight yellowing on some of the fan leaves and a bit of a copper leaf tips indicators starting up. I am debating just putting the girl in a 3gal pot and new soil when she drys out next or hitting her with the first round of nutes. I'm leaning toward the soil idea... I have a brand new bag of FFOF ready to deploy.

Regarding sexing and being too early: I think what I am starting to understand here is that if one looks carefully, it is pretty apparent when looking at a mature plant which sex it is. The problem is that they don't all get to this point of maturity at the same time. My number 3 is one of those late bloomers and without forcing it to show us sex with various tricks, its just a waiting game. Good optics are going to give me a further edge in this area and give me another several day jump ahead of what I could have done with my naked eyes. My point here is that as a brand new grower, I was under the assumption that this sexing thing was something hard to do and that it was imperative that I learned to do the flashlight method or fooling a branch into thinking it was in 12/12, some method to allow me to find out the sex as early as possible.

Here in the real world where I tend to live, I have learned that if one isn't trying to artificially hurry the process of going into flower, there will be plenty of time to see the sex. I can see reasons that one would want to know sex early in some mass production situations, but for someone planning to take the veg into maturity to go for maximum yield from each single plant, chill... sit back... be vigilant... but don't sweat it... sex happens. :thumbsup:

Emmie

some good reading on a winter's day...enjoy

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