7 reasons to support George W. Bush
Bush on the Constitution: ??It??s just a goddamned piece of paper??
By DOUG THOMPSON
Capitol Hill Blue's The Rant: Bush on the Constitution: ??It??s just a goddamned piece of paper??
Dec 5, 2005, 07:53
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
??I don??t give a goddamn,? Bush retorted. ??I??m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.?
??Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ??There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?
??Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ??It??s just a goddamned piece of paper!?
I??ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ??a goddamned piece of paper.?
And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that ??goddamned piece of paper? used to guarantee.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the ??Constitution is an outdated document.?
Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn??t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn??t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine ??in the end ? if something is legal or right.
Every federal official - including the President - who takes an oath of office swears to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.?
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a ??living document.?
??Oh, how I hate the phrase we have ??a ??living document,? Scalia says. ??We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete??s sake.?
As a judge, Scalia says, ??I don??t have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it??s better than anything else.?
President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a ??union between a man and woman.? Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.
Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.
??We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,? Scalia warns. ??Don??t think that it??s a one-way street.?
And don??t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.
But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just ??a goddamned piece of paper.?
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
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Originally Posted by rebgirl420
No what I meant is that even if we go back and forth this whole night, which im sure is what would happen if I chose to continue this tonight, what is gained? No ones mind is changed. Its nothing but arguing. Its getting pointless. Ill come back tommorow and continue but for right now im just not feeling it anymore. I just want to focus on the lighter threads and smoke. Ive been here ALL day arguing. I think I deserve some smoke time. How about you do the same.
I wasn't necessarily trying to change your mind. I was trying to show you that you couldn't back up your opinion with a single relevant fact. Sure it's legal in this nation to have an opinion with no facts, but *it shouldn't be socially acceptable to have such strong of an opinion with no facts.*
I think you previously made a post along the lines of "If I was a character in one of those shows (you were talking about the info-tainment shows such as the daily show, colbert report, etc) I'd much rather it be Colbert." Judging from this thread, you're not too far off. I'm honestly not trying to piss you off. I just hope you can eventually learn from this and grow as a person. I'm not angry, and I hope you're not either.
I think this finally concludes my argument.
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
Gonzalez resigned this morning. He got out while he still could. Will Bush?
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
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EVEN REASONS TO SUPPORT George W. Bush
1. George W. Bush has worked with Congress, unlike the Democratics there now.
2. George W. Bush led us into a legal war, because Iraq broke the Gulf War agreements.
3. George W. Bush has engineered a flourishing economy.
4. George W. Bush has to work with the most corrupt congress in American history.
5. George W. Bush has legally spied on American citizens thank goodness!
6. George W. Bush has had to work to stop terrorists who fight with no rules.
7. George W. Bush has istilled pride in our military .
1. Laughable, at best. The Dems are no longer a marginalized party and are acting like it. America got fed up with Republicans running a rubber-stamp Congress to please Bush's idealogical agenda. Blame the Dems if you must, but it just makes you look uninformed in the worst partisan sense. If you have a problem with a bill not going through due to not having enough votes behind it, then you have a problem with democracy - sorry!
2. Always love it when people resort to semantics and the letter of the law to distract away from the more telling aspects of the invasion. It speaks volumes that so much deceit was used. Downing Street Memo anyone? Yellow cake from Niger? WMD? Anyone? Some people don't have a problem trading American lives for short-term prosperity - they should just come out and say it instead of trying to justify the insane via legalese.
3. LOL! A democrat is in office when the economy is good and it's 'the president doesn't affect the economy!' Throw a repub in office and any recovery is automatically the fruits of his labor. Too funny. Also, a man who's driven personal businesses into the ground and doesn't know the difference between MedicCare and MedicAid didn't "engineer" anything. Please, lay off the AM talk radio - bad for the brain!
4. Yes, the record holder for vacation time in office really shored up a lot of respect with tolerating those damned dirty Democrats like Abramoff, DeLay, Foley, and Pombo. Oh...wait...
Then again, with an admin like this which has taken secrecy, cronyism, and contempt for rule of law to all new heights, it's kinda expected no?
5. Right, legal as long as you keep FISA and the Constitution out of the equation - but other than that, yep, perfectly legal. :wtf:
6. Ugh, now that's a disgusting proclamation. Bush took a cue from Osama's wishbook and did exactly what AQ wanted to do from the get go: draw us into an occupation of a poor muslim country. But hey, look on the bright side, at least it diverted funds and assets from the real fight in Afghanistan whilst simultaneously flushing our global outpouring of sympathy down the crapper. Yes, thank goodness for that savvy George Bush.
7. Let's forget for a moment the natural question of how AWOL Bush could instill pride in the very military he ran away from... Yeah that Abu Graibh thing turned out great for us. I myself get a great patriotic feeling when I consider that Bush and his handlers view our enlisted as expendable assets in elective wars, wars waded into with no exit strategy mind you. As I remember the GOP talking points during the Clinton years in regards to Kosovo, the hypocrisy and irony is just overwhelming!
Oh and rebgirl, I like you sweetie, but please - if you're going into history teaching I respectfully request you hit the books some more and check your politics at the door. Vietnam started with Eisenhower, not Kennedy. To compare Kennedy with Bush is asinine, not just completely stupid. Any US history professor worth his or her salt wouldn't dare to compare anyone to Bush save Hoover, or Taft, maybe Carter. Not with a straight face anyway... ;)
Bush is a lame duck president who has screwed this country and it's people more ways than I have space here to articulate it. I wish you guys would stop trying to put lipstick on that pig. And I say that as a moderate conservative with a history of voting for republicans (except for, I'm very proud to say, GWB).
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
Excellent post. ^^
Stay high.
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
good post bluedevil, i heard there was a rabbit loose in conspiracy forum, he sure could used your help.....
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
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Originally Posted by BlueDevil
1. Laughable, at best. The Dems are no longer a marginalized party and are acting like it. America got fed up with Republicans running a rubber-stamp Congress to please Bush's idealogical agenda. Blame the Dems if you must, but it just makes you look uninformed in the worst partisan sense. If you have a problem with a bill not going through due to not having enough votes behind it, then you have a problem with democracy - sorry!
2. Always love it when people resort to semantics and the letter of the law to distract away from the more telling aspects of the invasion. It speaks volumes that so much deceit was used. Downing Street Memo anyone? Yellow cake from Niger? WMD? Anyone? Some people don't have a problem trading American lives for short-term prosperity - they should just come out and say it instead of trying to justify the insane via legalese.
3. LOL! A democrat is in office when the economy is good and it's 'the president doesn't affect the economy!' Throw a repub in office and any recovery is automatically the fruits of his labor. Too funny. Also, a man who's driven personal businesses into the ground and doesn't know the difference between MedicCare and MedicAid didn't "engineer" anything. Please, lay off the AM talk radio - bad for the brain!
4. Yes, the record holder for vacation time in office really shored up a lot of respect with tolerating those damned dirty Democrats like Abramoff, DeLay, Foley, and Pombo. Oh...wait...
Then again, with an admin like this which has taken secrecy, cronyism, and contempt for rule of law to all new heights, it's kinda expected no?
5. Right, legal as long as you keep FISA and the Constitution out of the equation - but other than that, yep, perfectly legal. :wtf:
6. Ugh, now that's a disgusting proclamation. Bush took a cue from Osama's wishbook and did exactly what AQ wanted to do from the get go: draw us into an occupation of a poor muslim country. But hey, look on the bright side, at least it diverted funds and assets from the real fight in Afghanistan whilst simultaneously flushing our global outpouring of sympathy down the crapper. Yes, thank goodness for that savvy George Bush.
7. Let's forget for a moment the natural question of how AWOL Bush could instill pride in the very military he ran away from... Yeah that Abu Graibh thing turned out great for us. I myself get a great patriotic feeling when I consider that Bush and his handlers view our enlisted as expendable assets in elective wars, wars waded into with no exit strategy mind you. As I remember the GOP talking points during the Clinton years in regards to Kosovo, the hypocrisy and irony is just overwhelming!
Oh and rebgirl, I like you sweetie, but please - if you're going into history teaching I respectfully request you hit the books some more and check your politics at the door. Vietnam started with Eisenhower, not Kennedy. To compare Kennedy with Bush is asinine, not just completely stupid. Any US history professor worth his or her salt wouldn't dare to compare anyone to Bush save Hoover, or Taft, maybe Carter. Not with a straight face anyway... ;)
Bush is a lame duck president who has screwed this country and it's people more ways than I have space here to articulate it. I wish you guys would stop trying to put lipstick on that pig. And I say that as a moderate conservative with a history of voting for republicans (except for, I'm very proud to say, GWB).
i gave u ur 3rd dot yayy.. so what does the rep mean? i mean is it good to have all the dots? or im not sure..
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
Wow, thanks guys. *bows* Your plaudits humble me.
Mmmmm, Rep....what do I get when I level up? More spells? More hit points? Better saving throws? Heh. My chipmunk already has an Acorn of Smiting +12, can't wait till he's high enough to use it! :D
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
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Originally Posted by Humboldt215
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I do, desperately, want that guy in the white house.
7 reasons to support George W. Bush
All Bill Clinton did was smoke a jay (who doesen't?) and get some head (again who doesen't?).All bush did was kill a couple thousand soldiers,invent a warrentless wiretapping program to monitor "terrorists",And still make a complete jackass of himself in public at all times.I'd rather have Bill back any day.:hippy:BUCK FUSH!!!
