This is coconut oil and ganja in the bowl. This pretty much the amount I like....and pretty much how I judge it too......just by eyeball. ;)
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This is coconut oil and ganja in the bowl. This pretty much the amount I like....and pretty much how I judge it too......just by eyeball. ;)
Omg that looks great lol. I can't wait to do this! :)
edit: Don't mean to be a pest, but besides coffee grinders are there any other ways (that doesn't involve buying anything) to get some nice a finely grounded bud?
I use a regular strainer and am quite happy with the results I get. (Ps...may help to heat your weed a touch before straining....make sure its REALLY dry)
Here's a thread that my hubby and I did on making capsules after getting the excellent recipe from THIS thread.....worth a look through. ;)
Edit:.....umm...duh.....http://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...-s-recipe.html
Thanks, the guide is quite helpful! the next 3 plants I harvest, I'm going to use them all for capsules lol.
the best way imo is to do small amounts until you get the temp that works for you. I'm even coming to the conclusion that different strains may do better at a little different temps. The newest batch I cooked I cooked for 3 hours at 250 and got a better result I think....but not by much. ;)
Yeah, next Thursday I'm gonna just do the 1.5g of bud to 7g of coconut oil and see what it does for me. I hope I don't start gobbling them all down before I can use them when I really need 'em haha.
Well, they were pretty much a let-down again...nothing more than just a bit of a stoney feeling this time. I think we have to give up...
I know exactly how you feel. Dad gummit, I'm sick of wasting good weed. I'm not giving up though. I got a new crock pot and am going to approach the situation like a scientist, and not just follow the directions. I don't think you can just follow the directions unless you get lucky. Every crock pot is different, and so is the weed.
I have a some what "crockpot" it only goes to 240°F, that's not with a coffee mug in the pot. It's just a plug in pot, it doesn't have a temperature adjuster. So I was wondering can I still make it with what I have?
I'm REALLY bummed for you guys. I remember the first time I made Flame's recipe I hit it pretty fair. The next several times NOTHING and I went back to "sauteeing" it. Didn't you used to do that Opie....fry it or something?
Quote Opie - xcrispi, I don't know for sure if the temperature remark was directed at me, but I'm pretty sure I was measuring the oil temperature, not the container. I was using a candy thermometer and a laser thermometer, which was consistently 13-14 degrees F lower than the candy thermometer (FYI).
Nope , Not at all Opie . Was just a statement in general - no hidden meanings . If I had any info to help out etc... I would have tagged your name on there as well . I wish I had more pos. input to help actually . I didn't even go as far as you have - I never got out our lil Atomik Laser to check temps.
Peace bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:
Tried a different method this time and OMG was this easy.
Went the scientific route like someone said. instead of a crock pot i took my steinel digital heat gun. These guns are digital temp controled and have a ceramic heat source. that was the formerly used before volcano vaporizers were in existances.
i Used to make turkey bag vapor balloons this way all the time.
made a tray over top of it set heat gun on the normal 280-290f, with 3 inch gap, between aluminum tray with oil and herbs and the top of the heat gun. Yes this heated up my house a bit. i had a constant temp hitting the bottem of my tray for 3 hours straight. No smell at all
Caps were perfect. 3 x 00 caps had me in a dazed and confused state for all but 3-4 hours. WeedHound i love you and Flameon:jointsmile: thanks again for this recipe/ idea
Next were planning on using the strained coconut oil in other edibles- Rice krispie treats, ice cream, cakes, bread
HMM ? something else to think about would strawberry seeds soak up coconut oil as they do alcohol if so you could fold the oil into milk chocolate and make chocolate covered thc strawberries. YUMMY!!
Yeah, we put it on the burner in a skillet and fried it just until it started turning brown. We found that you can do this with or without a little bit of oil in the pan. Constantly stirring, about 5 minutes. I can't remember what setting we used. Once browned, we stirred it into any brownie or cookie recipe. Tasted like crap, but my oh my what a trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
UnTouched, nice improvisation.
Last night I went out to a concert and took 2 caps at 7pm and another 2 caps around 9pm. It didn't seem to significantly intensify the high when I took the other 2 caps, but when I woke up this morning at 6am I was still flying pretty nicely....
For all of you who are having multiple failures and are using a crockpot, I suggest that you try using a toaster oven or an oven. I made my first batch with a crockpot and it came out decent, but my second batch that I made using my toaster oven came out easily twice as good. Just try putting the plain butter/coconut oil in the oven for a while and checking the temp a few times before you put the gange into it. This will help you make sure that youre not overcooking it. I had mine around 325 the whole time.
Oh and decarbing is also something that I've come to love. My caps made with decarbed gange come out way better.
AND if anybody is having trouble finding empty caps around where they live and dont want to order off the internet, just go to any health store or any store that sells vitamins, and buy the cheapest ones and just empty them out. It's pretty easy.
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Originally Posted by MVP
MVP...this would make me wonder if mine were cooked on high enough heat......
Good question Hound, I had these in the 225 F - 250 F range for almost 3 hours if I remember correctly. I took them on a light stomach (not empty, but definitely not full) and had a few beers at the show. Was a lot of fun, but surprised me when I woke up at 5am still buzzed. I might have taken the last 2 between 930-10pm, but I'm not sure...
What is your process for decarbing? Just part of that time in the oven at 325? Or did you actually do a decarbing process?Quote:
Originally Posted by ehokid
Oh, and when you said that you had yours at 325 the whole time - how long was that?
do u think it's necessary to raise the temperature of the oil with the weed in it to 250 before turning it down?
also do u think 15-20 mins of cooking would be enough to get me high if I cooked about gram in coconut oil? I just dont want to wait 3 hrs
Finally tried this process last night for the first time. First of all, I'd like to extend a world of big, squishy hugs to Flameon (<3) for providing the awesome instructions! THANK YOU!
This was so much fun, you guys. I think they turned out great. Probably not as potent as Flame's, but maybe. I didn't print the measurements and ended up with about 4 teaspoons of powdered bud to about 3/4 c of clarified butter. (Don't make me do conversion math after 20 hours of partying, please.) Also, the butter clarification could have been more thorough, but it wasn't too bad. We strained it through a paper towel.
One capsule seems to give a lighter buzz than I wanted, but lasted for hours. We ended up making about 50 capsules total. I gave 12 to my friend who has fibromyalgia. The rest I divvied up between all of us (about 5 each for them and keeping a huge, selfish number for myself since I masterminded the whole thing and since it was my weed, haha). Nicole helped me like we were lab partners and had an awesome time playing mad scientist, so she got 12 also.
I took another 1.5 capsules today (one was only half-filled for some reason) and I've had a sort of middle-grade, even buzz all day. It's really nice. Next batch, I plan to stick closer to Flameon's measurements for more potency, but all in all, I think my first batch is a great success. I am so excited and pleased with the whole process and the resulting capsules.
Here's a few pics:
2.5 hrs @ 175-200 degrees F
Filling up the capsules
Decided to start a jar of dragon juice. The stems and some leaf were ground up and mixed in. Brandy was all I had for this. Next time I'll use something with a higher alcohol content. I'm going to let that soak for a few weeks and see what happens.
Part of the THC butter was used for brownies
Again, big, big thanks to Flameon! :D:hippy::jointsmile::thumbsup::smokin:
To decarb it, I just broke it up as fine as possible and spread it out on a sheet of tinfoil and then put that into the oven at 325 for 20 minutes. Then I took it out and dumped it into clarified butter and then put that back into the oven at 325 for around 2 and a half hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by vileoxidation
I wanted to mention that if you have trouble finding the empty capsules, just go to Walmart and buy the cheapest herbal supplement in the size caps you want, making sure they're gelatine, and then just empty the capsules out by hand. Not ideal, but a good workaround. Make sure it's something like echinacea, something that won't hurt anyone if traces are left in the caps.
I haven't hit the Ganja in 5 years, I got to a point in smoking where I just wasn't getting high and enjoying myself, it was more of a "I have to have it" kind of thing. My birthday is coming up in 9 days, so I thought I would celebrate with an eighter of some purple nugs a friend of mine grows. I am making some FlameOn style caps as we speak, the oil and herb is cookin away. Pan and bowl method, keep it at a real low simmer for about 2 and a half hours. I am tempted to take a toke while I cook. I am going to be ridiculously high if I do. I think it would be good to do before I take one of these caps though! Anyway I will let u know how it works. I don't want to smoke really, I am a singer, my voice is my instrument.:thumbsup:
So i got three questions that I hope anyone will feel free to answer.
My first question is how long do these capsules keep (should they be kept in the fridge or can you leave them out in room tempuratre), I assume they last a long time but i might be wrong, second is do they smell of weed, and third is what do you guys to with your steams and leaves?
The third one is more like a poll, personally I use them to make Green Dragon.
Flameon, great recipe. This is the only one I've been using
ya definately an awesome recipe. i tried it with about a half a gram of good quality weed and i stoned all day. no joke it started to hit me at 9 am and i was feeling it pretty good when i went to sleep wich was at 1130pm.
I don't know how long they'll keep. I imagine it would be quite a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by massivewhite
They can be kept at room temperature if you use gelatin capsules.
I use my stems and some leaf for dragon juice and smoke or vaporize some of the leaf.
Wondering if the temp. goes up when u ad the bud to oil and HOW MUCH?!?!THANKS!!!
I had thought of the heat gun .Good to hear it works.Got a jig to hold a mason jar (small) .First time making caps. ,get ready now.
So seeing this thread made me join the website and try this out.
I know this is my first post so also Hello to all.
I modified the recipe a bit.
I used a tablespoon of ground up Ganja and a table spoon of coconut oil.
We used the slowcooker to get to 230 it took half an hour (that included melting the coconut oil and bring it up to temperature. I did this with the slow cooker on high.
We then put the dope in the oil and stirred it. I watched the temperature and on high it was a bit above 250. So I moved it to low and it sat at around 240 for the whole process.
We let it sit for 3 hours in toatal and stirred it on the hour.
After it was complete we transefered the oil into a teacup that we covered with aluminium foil. We then put it in the freezer.
We didn't have capsuls so the Foil allowed us to pull out the frozen oil and cut it into 8 even peices. We then had two each.
The results were quite nice, I was blasted until around 12 the next day. We took the oil around 6pm and it hit us about an hour and a half afterwards.
It was quite a pleasent experience, but we had smoked, drank and ate a bunch as well.
I will try it completly sober and update. Overall though it was excellent!
well excellent is pretty good.....:D
Now that I have a bit more time I can elaborate on my experience in a bit greater detail.
As far as cooking went it did have a bit of a smell, mostly by the slowcooker but it was barely noticible if you came into the apartment from outside.
Since we were taking the oil without the capsules we used a teacup that we covered in Aluminum Foil. This allowed us to take the solidified oil out without it sticking to the tea cup.
I have to say that the taste wasn't exactly what I expected. Sort of like a dirty bong actually. But we soon realised we could cut the oil into smaller peices and just swallow it whole.
A tablespoon of Ganja and a tablespoon of oil gave us what I would consider 8 capsuls and a freind and I each had 2.
We had previously smoked and drank some beer and rum so we were coming into the experiement considerably messed up by the time the capsules hit (which was an hour and a half into the experiment).
We had ate dumplings just before so we did have food in the stomach. The high was very pleasant. Clearly diffrent from smoking as it was a real body buzz but I personally found it to be quite relaxing and sort of overwhellming. It was difficult to get up and do anything after they had kicked in and I found myself super focused on the Hockey game. With time passing very quickly.
About two hours after they kicked in we ate once more (Homemade Hotpot which was incredible by the way). And I found the high to get quite a bit more intense. The food really kicked it up.
After several hours we smoked a big joint and that kicked it in again. Overall it just lasted and lasted and lasted.
Since my first post I spoke to my freind and he agreed the experience overall was good. He was baked the next day until dinner.
We both smoke quite a bit about 4 times a week or so, and we found the equivlent of 2 capsule to be more then sufficient.
This will be a great way to not only save money on Ganja but also help save the lungs.
I intend to try it again this weekend but without smoking or drinking first. I will then update everyone again on the effects.
While it is quite a bit diffrent from smoking, it is really an amazing feeling (Although I will still smoke as it is a very diffrent high).
:jointsmile:
Wow, great work guys!
I can't believe how much this thread has grown recently, and I just wanted to drop in and say 'thanks' for some really excellent contributions (especially from the new guys).
Bloooo, very nice job and great pics too.
I'm glad to hear they worked out well for you.
Someone recently suggested using a piece of polystyrene with holes in it as a holder (I have a home made one that I use as a storage tray in the fridge). I'd recommend having a go at making one, as you'll find it easier to fill your capsules than doing it by hand (saves time too). :thumbsup:
massivewhite, assuming you've made your capsules using clarified butter (ghee) or coconut oil, they'll last for several months (possibly years). I tend to store mine in the fridge, and recently took some from a batch I made over six months ago with no loss of potency (if anything they were stronger than I remembered).
Bizarz, Hi and welcome to the forums.
Impressive work, especially for your first attempt, I'm looking forward to hearing how the next one goes. :thumbsup:
I've been doing some tests recently and wondered if any other members might be able to contribute?
Simply put, I've been experimenting with eating different types and amounts of food (before and after taking the capsules) to see if and how the 'high' could be prolonged or enhanced.
Interestingly, the most measurable success I've had has flown in the face of conventional wisdom, i.e. 'you should take them on an empty stomach'.
I've run the same iteration of a particular test four times now, using myself and various friends as 'guinea pigs', and every time the result has been dramatic.
We used identical capsules all made from the same batch, first on empty stomachs at 4pm (having only eaten breakfast) and measured the results (duration, strength, effects etc), then a week later (to allow tolerance to return to a baseline), took the same dose again at 4pm, but this time after all having a large lunch (between 12 and 1pm).
On each occasion (and unanimously), the effects, strength and duration of the 'high' was increased by a considerable margin.
So far, all our experiments support that eating a decent sized meal around three hours before taking the capsules significantly increases the potency of the results.
I think it must be related to the fact that the digestive system has already prepared enzymes for the intravenous absorption of the first meal, and therefore this allows greater bio-availability of the THC. Combine that with the conversion of the THC into Delta 9 THC (a stronger version) via the 'first pass' through the liver, and the overall potency is significantly higher.
If anyone out there wants to give it a try, I'd be very keen to hear how you get on.
Ideally, you should use capsules from an identical batch, and try first on an empty stomach, and then a week, or at least a few days later (to give your metabolism a chance to reset), try again three hours after eating a meal and measure the difference in results. Post back with your observations.
Hey, and remember we're advancing medical science here, one day there may even be a statue named after us lol :thumbsup:
Thanks. I ordered a filler tray and capsules, but they still have not arrived. :( So the manual filling one by one was kind of a pain, but not that bad of a workaround. We got something like 50 capsules done in less than an hour. Should be super fast next time if I get my tray or make a styrofoam one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flameon
Thanks again for providing those excellent instructions. :1baa:
I'm wondering if that's why taking a pop of coffee in the morning tends to bring your buzz back as well. A bit of caffeine to get everything moving.......hmmmm...
I shall conduct some expirements myself and submit my findings. :D
Hey flameon i treid makin these last night with a lightweight chip on my shoulder thinkin they wouldnt work. i did the stove top method and used that good ol' cali hash. i didnt have all the supplies so i made wit what i had. your werent BS'n when you told us how strong they were (although i thought i was tight and took nine of the damn things) i was messed up for awile. but my question is, is there anyway to fill the capsule with the hash oil before we want to take em. for instance lets say i wanted to make 100 of em to "give away" later. how can i do that without the capsules melting? while filling the capsules i had to make sure i did it quick because the capsules started to dissolve. or am i just going to have to keep em in the fridge until there induced?
Hey Flame;
We ate about an hour or so before we took the Capsuls and we got quite messed up.
However after we ate again later on the effects got even stronger. I think with food in the stomach it starts the digestive process which makes the oil kick in faster.
hmmm, interesting. I know with pain meds they don't even hardly work if I take them with food. Maybe it's not the same with weed. I guess I'll have to try some with food now.
i made these today n it took 4 pills for me to feel n e thing and it wasnt that much. i dont think the water was hot enough, im gonna try again tomorrow