Water Farm/DWC club

best of both worlds...anyone can have a favorite. I just burnt an ak-47 cross called fantasma, and I got a head rush...

It depends on what you are looking for, there are so many breeders of good genetics.

In answer to your question. I have had a few favorites over time.
NYCD=KIks Azz Sativ

Fantasma=AK-47x Good body and head

Skunks...Well I ran across a California Orange Bud and Skunk#1 x burmese f'in incredible last year and that was smooth sweet and trippy.

Point is: You get good genetics from a trusted source and grow simply and safely until you learn to grow a healthy crop, and keep trying...each plant you grow is going to show different characteristics, and some of that characteristic is attributable to how the plant was grown. i.e...what type system?...soil or hydro?...what type of lights, nutrients, environment, etc.

Well that's my take. Read the characteristics of strains/crosses offered by a seedbank and that will lead you to the the type of middle of the road effect that you desire...I never knew it until I experienced, truly, the effects and differences between "true" Indica and Sativa strains. I Like Sativa's. I like the mind blowing, better put it down effect of a dominant sativ phenol. funny thing, when 1st experimenting with different strains/crosses I always had the misconception that "medininal" effect would be a better "high"...Not necessarily true...Everyone is different and have varied opinions on the topic; Perhaps others will chime in on this thread. peace Sorry for rambling.

That's a point I always wondered about with the seedbanks...why some strains were conisdered "medicinal" and some not. What (in the seedbanks' view) makes a good "medicinal strain?" I'm really only beginning to discover the difference between strains and the highs associated with them.....having fresh mj vs stuff that may have been around for god knows how long....an am only now beggining to appreciate the variety. (now who's rambling)

X your blueberries look terrific! The color change in the one is exactly like you see in all the cool photos! All your plants look great!

nobodys rambling , neither 1 of ya's . ;)
i agree w/ you latewood . it might take alot of trial -n- error before 1 find one that trips my trigger in all the aspects i'm looking for . potency-yield-right med qual.-etc... i really would like to try a sativa strain = 3-4 hits -n- O.M.G "what'd i go-n-do effect" . but i only have 6ft.2in. of headroom in growroom -6in. for cooltunes -16in. for height of farms = 48in. for plants . sativas can be monsters w/ height . L.S.T the hell out of em ? :confused:

weedhound - the definition of a med. m/j strain is probably very , very broad . just because of a suposed high thc level is a weak way to judge it -n- from what i've seen that's what most seedbanks are going by from the looks of things . most thc % ratings of 18% or better are refered to as med. strains more often than others .

i'm missing 9 digits -5 fingers/4 toes and have serious neuro. probs. due to shooting and phantom pain etc... i find a stronger body buzz helps this . i'd be willing to bet what helps me might not do a damn thing for someone like bear w/ vision probs. or glocoma , sooo many dif. healing properties . the old adage "kill the brain ya kill the pain " is B/S . there's too many dif. physcical and psychological effects on us .

prob. why we're seeing soo many newbie kidz posting stuff about not getting high sometimes , i think they're expecting the same effect everytime but don't get it , either because of dif. strains - or - indica/sativas diff effects .

might take quite a while to nail down what's best for me . like latewood said everbodys dif. my asking others prob. isn't the right way to go about this ? maybe trial and error sorta till i hit it .:o
many thanx as always for any and all input , answers -n- suggestions .
peace
crispi :greenthumb:

Just because I am nosy and curious what major thing do you notice when you get relief from mj vs standard painkiller? I know that in animal medicine pain control is just now becoming a huge thing....after all they were just animals before and now they are hairy little people. Anyway, there are huge discussions about different pain recepters etc..with different drugs blocking and releasing different chemicals from different neurotransmitters blah blah..and some of the bigger "guns" they use actually will cancel each other out by working on opposite recepters. I'm also wondering with cannabis how much harvesting at different times would affect the final result in regards to how it would work for you (or others). I'm know I'm jumping the thread here so I'll understand if you folks are not amused by this and I'll take my thread-jumping elsewhere and never speak to any of you again (j/k)

hey weedhound ,
i try to chop em when trics. are 50/50 . i get shooting pains / electric pains . ya feel it start up around like your shoulder and it'll shoot down the arm and end up where fingers are m.i.a . same w/ my legs / feet now that crispi's got the 3 toed sloth option . lol .

m/j w/ a good body buzz kinda creates the feeling of when your hands or feet fall asleep n tingle like mad . the tingling sensation overpowers the pain . you don't really know if your actually still hurting or not .

script narcs. do the same for me but w/ apitite loss , the shitz , upset stomache etc... not to mention longterm affects on kidneys -n- liver . no more oxycottin , ms cottin , percocet , vicodin , etc... shits addictive and will kill you over extended periods of time .

as far as harvesting at dif. times , i've never tried. always when 50/50. i guess cause it's what i've been taught ? old -n- set in my ways ? if harvested at 100% amber i'd prob. be the worlds largest couch potatoe -n- never get anything done . i've always done 100% indica or indica dominant strains though = kinda couch lock anyways . stinky attic and latewood are kinda leaning towards sativas which i might try next .

peace all
crispi

I'm on my first hydro endevor, 10 gal rez, 1 plant, DWC. Details here:

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=92745

I have a couple of possibly useless comments to add! *grin*

On avoiding root tangle:

I was thinking that setting up a plastic divider might work... In my 4 plant system it would be like this: 2 large pieces of rigid plastic, each cut most of the way down the middle and stuck together to form an X. A bazillion tiny holes drilled in the plastic to allow for flow. An airstone in each section. Checking the roots daily and, with fingers wet with rez solution, tease away any from the holes. I think they still might try to work their way thru the holes though.

My other thought on this is cheesecloth. Make a little tubular tent around each pot with a few layers of cheesecloth, open at the bottom, airstone inside each tube. The roots very likely will get entangled in their own cheesecloth tube, but it would be tough for them to get thru it.

Probably ought to soak the cheesecloth in pH balanced H2O first - I'm not sure if it would effect the pH fresh.


On medicinal mj:

I have a bevy of back problems, and take morphine and oxy for pain. Indica-heavy strains work just as well, with benefits of being non-addictive & easier dose control. I pay little heed to seed bank's distinctions on what is medicinal and what is not - Ya use what works for you, and if it is lower THC, you can just use more and/or water cure it.

Happy bubbles to all!

good thread. I mentioned thread jumping, but not in a negative way...We have always believed here a Cdot that info comes from all directions...
OK. medicinal is generally an Indica, and so we all try Indicas 1st...But, Indicas are not the "High" Most are looking for. that is Sativa...

I always read Indica, "medicinal", "couchlock", "body stone"...Sativ, up
high, and as mentioned above...the trichs determine how up or how much couchlock effect. The earlier you harvest the more up high. the longer you wait the more couchlock effect.

Now don't go chopping your plants early...You need at least 1/2 cloudy-1/2 clear to harvest and enjoy the effect.
I usually flush when I see amber trichs, then harvest within a week. With good genetics I cannot finish a joint...And...Keep in mind that once trichs turn amber, they are deteriorating...Oh yeah...Zandor would find me remiss if I didn't add; Trichs are only the receptacle or, they show the potential for thc production...they are not themselves thc.
clear-they have little thc...
cloudy-they are full of thc...
amber-they are dying.

later.peace.latewood

What do you mean about the trichomes latewood? I though they WERE the THC. Are you saying that the cloudy/amber etc inside is the thc? I never knew that!

Mack, I like your idea of the plastic with the bazillian holes but unfortunately it has one major flaw in my book.....it takes work and I have a very strict rule against that. As far as the cheesecloth I'm wondering as to whether it would break down after awhile of floating around and spread little bits everywhere in the res. But it did give me another thought.....I haven't used coco but doesn't it come in those strips that you could wrap around the pot. And I'm not if it would help hold the roots back but if it could even slow them down so that you could remove the plant without ripping off any roots......

Here is an excerpt from J cervantes, Indoor Marijuana Horticulture, "the Indoor bible"; Capitate-stalked glands (trichomes) (looks like a golf tee or post with knob at top), have the highest concentration of thc and are the glands to watch...when the trichomes develop a spherical head and are still transparent is the best time to harvest...
(Now this goes against what some of us were taught, or believe, HUH?)
Senescing Glands starting to turn brown and get smaller, they are decomposing and thc content diminishes. make sure to check buds over the entire plant to assure maximum amount of mature trichomes...

I am sorry weedhound...you are right. I didn't clarify, but I was taught that the development of the stalked gland/trichome was/showed the potential of thc (a vessel)...the cloudiness shows it there..., but this excerpt is from one of the gurus, so once again, It is all a matter of opinion and/or clarification at some point...peace Hope this helps.

Mack. I have thought about dividers like that, but nothing with holes would help, in fact they would hinder the roots due to roots growing into holes..anyway; I think the answer lies in a recirculating individual but communal dwc rez...I am sure that a mold of some sort will have to be made for the idea...At least for my design.

Yes it does pretty much work out to the same thing all in all...whether they are or "contain"...THEY ARE THERE which is all we care about. Have any of you folks harvested when all the trichs were clear and if so how did you like it? I always heard that was a big no-no; no offense to JC. And the roots growing into the holes would be my worry too....I'm way to lazy to keep track of them---I want plants that grow, harvest and roll themselves into a good j all by themselves. There would have to be two layers between them I would think--one permanent and one that could be removed with the plant.