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they fucked themselves with that steel melting theory. first off the the tower that got hit second fell first. how could that be possible if the tower that got hit first was burning longer? also how could that be possible if most of the fuel burned up on the outside of the building?(2nd tower) these are very good questions that people dont wanna hear or they just brush em off without examining them.
Of course my paragraph is all over the place. I hit the key points and commented on what was what. From my stand point.
if the steel melting theory was true i would imagine the tops of the buildings to fall and thats about it.
I want you go to download watch some google videos of buildings being demolished and then compare them to WTC, it was a fucking demolition
green love what part of this dont you get, THE STEEL STRUCTURE OF THAT BUILDING COULDNT HAVE GOTTEN HOT ENOUGH TO MELT ENOUGH TO COLLAPSE AND IF IT WOULD HAVE YOU WOULDNT HAVE SEEN IT FALL STRAIGHT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
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"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says in Nov. 2005.
Fire fighter's magazine calls the destruction and removal of evidence "a half-baked farce" of investigation.
One (or more) eyewitness reported hearing a series of at least about "five" explosions in at least one of the buildings just before it came down. It LOOKED LIKE a professional demolition job. The "melting" theory makes little sense.
The FBI floors (22nd to 24th floors) of the North Tower had been devastated and reduced to debris BEFORE the building came down. On these floors the entire accumulation of evidence and investigation briefs on two highly important cases were being stored: the case against Mobil Oil and James Giffen on illegal oil swaps between Iran and Kazakhstan and evidence in the investigation of GOLD PRICE FIXING.
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Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding."
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Visually... it appeared that after the initial impact and explosion of jet fuel mostly OUTSIDE THE BUILDING... (and on a few floors inside where windows were broken). There was a great deal of smoke but relatively little flame and certainly no major inferno at lower levels INSIDE. in fact people were seen not very far below the point of impact hanging out of windows trying to escape the (smoke?)... but apparently alive and not subject to the thousands of degrees temperature that could have melted steel (and concrete?). At lower levels it has been reported by some survivors that they were inside watching the events (plane crashes) on TV when they decided it was time to get out... Again they had no indication of fire at these lower levels that could have "melted" anything.
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I took notes at my computer as he spoke. After the south tower collapsed, men went up to the 22nd floor of the WTC and "dug" someone out of the "rubble" he found there. {It is known that these floors contained the New York FBI offices -- Peter Jennings actually did a two-day network news story on the effects of the destroyed evidence and files on American financial crime investigations around the world.]
The 48 Hours anchor was interviewing the Head of Security of the WTC about the evacuation who had received a call, after the South tower was down, from the Port Authority's Command Center on the 22nd floor asking for rescue. The Head of Security himself travelled to that floor in the company of a NY Fireman where they found the offices devastated to the point where they had to "tunnel through debris" to "dig out" the two or three Port Authority workers who were trapped there. All of this happened 73 floors below crash-bombing impact.
Which airliner went in at the highest angle? If you were 2 cut a carrot at a 20 degree angle, vs cutting the carrot at a 60 degree angle. Which would fall off the carrot first the? The one with the biggest angle. It was at the angle the 1st airplane hit vs the 2nd one. Thats why the 1st tower was able to survive longer than the 2nd. The last airplane 2 the the towers was basically a tuning fork. When you hit the tunning fork against metal it vibrates and shakes. Well, what would follow would be vibrations and quakes. Theirs many scenarios to this subject. All are factors to this equation.
dude you just said it yourself. which piece would "fall off" the carrot first.
ok so for you to get this we gotta use carrots... ok thats cool aslong as we get it across to youQuote:
Originally Posted by Green Love
You have a giant carrot which represents the towers ok? You take aknife and swing it at the carrot at whatever angle you like,this is the jet, boom the slice falls off. You take explosives and place it around and up and down the carrot well the carrot is going to collapse....
Did you see part of the WTC tower fall off or did you see it collapse??? I strongly suggest you watch some demolition videos, research at what temperature a steel core like that of WTC would melt at.
One final question, why would it fall STRAIGHT down if it "melted" in the middle????
The simple facts of temperatures:
* 1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
* ~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
* ~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
Diffuse flames burn far cooler.
Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet.
The fires in the towers were diffuse -- well below 800ºC.
Their dark smoke showed they were oxygen-starved
steel melts at a temperature of 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit, but jet fuel burns at only 1,517 degrees F, if you want the place i got this information id be glad to give it to you
i read somewhere of a comparison between a fireball from an explosion(jet fuel, etc...) and a fireball from an incendiary device(napalm bomb). they compared em and said the wtc fireball looked more orangey like a napalm bomb as to more yellowy like a fire due to the jet fuel.