icbh, with your nutes are you using ro water?
Subzero.
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icbh, with your nutes are you using ro water?
Subzero.
Ok. So let me see if I'm understanding what you guys are trying to tell me. You want me to bend my main plant stem, roughly in the middle I would say, at a 90 degree angle without breaking the outside of the stem? Should I tie these length wise to my table or width? Its a 2x4 flood table. I'm not going to do anything until I understand crytal clear what you guys are trying to tell me lol. I don't wanna go mutilate my plants and then have understood ya'll wrong.
right,
as the plants are positioned in the photo but move them all the way to the outside edge, now about 1/3 of the way up, just above a set of healthy branches, gently rub the stem for about an inch, increasing in pressure until you crush the stem for that 1 inch, have your splint and ties ready as icbh pointed out in case it breaks. now slowly and carefully bend the whole plant above the crush, to 90 degrees width ways (the 2 ft way). drill a hole in the edge of the table and tie the very top to it. same all the way along with the middle one opposite (like the picture). Take your time and be very gentle and you will be ok, as long as you don't break it in two, it will repair any damage even if it splits (even fairly severe) within a couple of days. This will increase your yield.
Be brave, but you will worry at first when you see them just laying there, be warned. you will also be surprised how fast they recover!
Subzero ;)
agreed. the staggered position they are in now looks good. bend the 2 on the right to the left and the one on the left to the right. that should fill in most of your tray and light footprint. the goal is to see as much shade on the surface of the tray as possible.
sub,
im on well water, 6.9 and about 180ppm. normally 2ml/gal of ph down to get down to about 5.9. GH is ph balanced but may rise a little after a watering or two. but now it shoots up from 5.7 to 7.0 in 24hrs without watering (no runoff effect). although after it rises it seems to take less down to bring it back to normal. ive removed things i thought it might be, superthrive, calmag, and now i only mixed GH micro, bloom, grow and floralitious+ and it did it again (last night 5.8 and today 6.3 but i only mixed in 10 gal to the 15gal that was already in the res). i will now mix without the flor+ and see what happens, and then mix without micro and see... until maybe i find out what is causing it. i will also get some GH from another room i have going and see if that does it.
im about ready to go buy some fucking ionic!!! :mad:
Here are the pics of my supercropped plants, the front and back ones were laying so far down into the table that I tied them up, I will check on them in a couple of hours. Once I see them firm up I'm going to drop the lights closer. The only thing I see being a small problem is some of the lower branches on that back one are actually at 4" taller than where I made the bend. Does this look right, ok, etc? :wtf4: Yea I think scrog is going to work out for my particular set up pretty well I think. So here's my plan...
1) Harvest these 3 plants if they make it.
2) Get my clone mother tent built in the next two weeks.
3) Get a screen set up for scrog.
4) Pick out a mother from my six clones, put it in the clone mother tent, and then put the remaining 5 (maybe only 2 or 3 in reality) clones in my main tent with the scrog setup...top them at about 10" and let them grow into my screen from that point.
Sound like a good plan?
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Oops, thought of some other questions...
Will I need to do this again?
Also, I started this weekend with a clean out of the reservoir, put in a fresh 20gal. with 3tsp/gal. Ionic Bloom (3/4 strength). Started at about 790ppm. I've been steadily rising about 10-15ppm a day, I'm at 860ppm now. I've been adding 1gal of water with 3 tsp. of Ionic Bloom in every day shortly after the lights kick on at 8pm. Is that ok or should I add another gallon of straight tap to nock the ppm down?
I think you should have the center one on the other side of the tray. Yes keep them up at a 90' not hanging down like that and the tips will turn back up.
yes put the middle one the opposite to the two end ones, and at 90 degrees.
i have run ionic at up to 1400ppm (x500) on a heavy feeder without a problem although i would not reccomend it. below 1000 you should be fine, if the ph is rising and the ppm is dropping or if the water is dropping and everything else basicly stays the same, you are ok.
I probably would have made the bend lower but you will be fine.
Icbh,
I bet its a change in your water or the tester, not the nutes but let us know how you get on. i keep a liquid ph kit for occasions such as these!
Well done bert.
Subzero
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Yea the one thing I noticed was that the stem was really thick and I was too scared to go any lower thinking it would be easier to break in half. The one thing I just wanted to make sure about, the stem did split, but the splits where up and down you know, not like it splitting in half. Is that ok because it basically happened with every plant?
Another thing of note, I may have gotten a bad ppm reading on sunday when I refilled the reservoir too. I'm starting to think that may have been the case but I'm not totally convinced. Basically, my ppm's are going up (790 - 860), and my ph has dropped very slightly. Like from 5.8 to 5.7 after three days. Every day I've added 1 gallon of tap that already has 3 tsp. of Ionic Bloom in it.
@icbh - Okies, when I get home later today I'll move that one around, I'm kind of in a state of worrysome anticipation to see where my ladies are today.
bert,
don't worry about the splits, they will likely develop into 2 seperate stems at that point for the duration of the split. It always happens to me without long term damage, have faith man!
i dont top up my tank everyday, certainly not with nutes. in fact by the end of the week i let it run right down so i dont have to dump so much water. try leaving it ph adjusted about 5.8 with your target ppm, then record your ppm. after 2 days without topping up check the ph, has it risen, stayed the same or dropped? now add ph adjusted tap co correct to 5.8 again, no nutes to the same level as you started. now take the ppm, it should have dropped from your target if the plants are feeding properly. If your leaf tips arent starting to burn slightly you are within the limit of nutes it can take. by looking at them, they seem happy enough.
don't worry, we wouldn't tell you to do anything that we weren't completely certain about.
Recovery photos please!
Subzero. :)