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WH, I like to take my stems and trims place it in a jar with Lemon Extract (Smart and Final) which is something like 93% I let it sit in a dark cupboard a week or so then strain it into a glass 13x8 cake pan and leave it outside to evaporate and then after scrapping up what's left and mix it into my cap mixture before I cook it.
Luna, how does that work for you? What do you strain with, coffee filter? Cheesecloth? I'd love more specifics about tinctures since we attempting them ourselves. So far what we had is some half-revegged Master Kush buds (dried) that we strained with a regulaar cooking strainer, filled 2/3 full (loosely) with this mix and added vegetable glycerine to within 1 and 1/2 inches from top of quart jar. Our cannabis doc told us to wait at least two months, but to agitate the bottle daily which we have been doing. Is this at all close to what you are accomplishing extraction wise? We started the mixture on 01/12/09 and the stuff seems extremely thick and gooey. Any comments about that.....good and bad...appreciated.
Hello to all..... So Ive read all thirty pgs. of Flames thread and now yours weedhound. I made some yesterday and haven't tried yet, sure hope to get some great results. I'm kinda worried i won't though as i just became a member of cannabis.com and can now view the pics and see that what i got is diff than what i've now seen in pictures. oh well you live and you learn. Thanks for all info so far and I'll soon be checkin back w/ these results and then many more.
I have used both the soak and wait method and Master Wu's recipe with great success. I understand the desire to not touch alcohol (I didn't drink for 16 yrs). But with a well made tincture the alcohol is just a medium for the intoxicant, not the intoxicant itself.
Let us know how your glycerin experiments go and I'll post when I get some coconut oil. Should I be able to get that at a health food store? My local grocery doesn't carry it.
WH have you ever tried nuking the oil and the weed?
I never have tried nuking the weed......mostly because I read somewhere that it destroys the trichomes but I can't tell you if the statement is true.......just that I read it somewhere so never did it.
The oil I nuke for about a minute to get it to liquid state so I can add the powder.....that's the only nuking that occurs. :D
You can get coconut oil at your local health food store (unless you live way in the sticks) or even online. I get mine from Amazon.com.
Good luck....and thanks for the tincture tips. :)
Does anyone have specific measurements for oil to herb ratio? I tend to make mine with 3.5g of herb to about 6 tsp of oil. This usually results in a mix of about 50/50 herb to oil when I put it into the capsules. I fill the caps halfway with the cooled but still liquid oil by using a small measuring cup with a pouring lip. Then I use a knife to scoop up and put a small bit of herb in at a time until the cap is full. With the large amount of oil I don't have to compress it any to get the air out. Also because I do it this way I waste almost nothing. Just what is left in the coffee cup I use. Plus I don't get the caps covered in oil unless my hand shakes when I pour. It take a little extra time but I think it is worth it since I don't have greasy caps and they don't stick together when they solidify.
Would anyone have recommendations on how to improve this. I didn't get very in depth but I gave a basic outline of how I do it. I usually have to take a couple of these for them to work, but I also get about 25-28 caps so I'd say I get about 9 good doses. I can also just take one or 2 to get nice and mellow without getting totally blazed. I'm not really sure if I conserve herb this way though. I can make the eigth I used last about a week by smoking it. With this I will take about 3 pills and then smoke all day on top of it. For the amount of herb used it just doesn't seem to be as potent as I would expect. Although I do feel the effects for most of the day.
Also I let it cook over night on low temp. I usually mix it every hour-hour and a half for the first couple of hours then go to bed. When I get up I take the coffee cup out of the crocpot. Strain the mix and let cool. Could I be burning off THC by letting it cook for a good 8 or 9 hours without mixing? I'm going to buy a candy therm and a over therm so I can monitor the temps. I don't get a weed smell unless I put the crocpot on the high setting. Also I have let it cook over night on the high setting and they have worked just fine although I had a steady weed smell.
I feel like I need to make 10 batches of the same herb with all different variables. I can never tell if mine are living up to their potential or not. I've made about 6 batches over the past year and they have all worked but some better than others. As far as I could tell that was just the quality of the herb coming through. I just don't feel like I'm knocked out of my zord unless I eat a bunch. In which case I am consuming a lot of it. Each pill comes out to about .13g and a bowl is usually what? .2g? .3g? just seems strange that I would need to eat about .4-.5g to have it work. Then again it last forever when I do that. Arggg!! I need to stop trying to figure out which works better and just enjoy whatever method I choose.
So i tried my 'batch' last night. I definitely felt nice and relaxed! Had a great stone for 6-7 hours before i went to bed. I don't think that I got it to the potential concentrate but definitely close. I cooked in crock pot for a couple hours and them tested them on my brother and they didn't kick in for him so i re-cooked in oven on 240 for two hours and that did the trick(mostly). Can't wait for next batch! Thanks soo much weedhound and ofcourse flameon as well. I'll keep posting my results and once i get what works best i'll post the process i use. This is my first time w/ edibles or concentrates but it won't be last......
jebus2029 -I can never tell if mine are living up to their potential or not. I've made about 6 batches over the past year and they have all worked but some better than others. As far as I could tell that was just the quality of the herb coming through.
This is an important consideration for anyone experimenting with edibles. I too have found myself questioning the results of my experiments without factoring in the variances in strength of the weed I used. The better the quality of herb the better the qualities of the tincture or baked good. Concentrated low-mid grade weed has a concentrated low-mid grade buzz, while concentrated high end weed has the concentrated cerebral effects of really good smoke.
Both have their utility, but too often people think that cooking with herb will magically improve it's qualities, but I think magnification might be a better descriptor.
Currently I have 2 bottles of tincture working that I stared in early December. One consist of 180ml of Everclear and 1/2 ounce of not that exciting commercial pot. The other is about 50ml of Everclear and 3 grams of very high end weed. Even at 3-4 time the dosage the low end weed only gets me very sedated while a 1/4-1/3 that amount of the high end stuff gets pretty trippy.
It's always relative to what you start with.