"THE SEALED ROOM" 3lbs A LIGHT

It's fucking amazing he got such good results giving the plants such little room for root growth... truly amazing to see.

I am also a SunShine#4 user and I have grown with no drainage at all, I am curious if other people do the same thing with #4. Does it work fine because it's so airy? I would think you'd be shunned by other growers for not draining out most soil-like mediums...but for some reason SunShine seems to work fine without drainage. Can anyone else tell us about their experiences with the medium?

damn i love this thread.. read it many a many a time

nice man...just fukkin nice!:thumbsup:

holy hell is that nice

i wish this guy would come back around here and post some nice bud pics!


peace out TjM

:rastasmoke: tranoble, great grow did u ever show pixs of your harvest man i would love to see some thanks:jointsmile:

Hey rollin don't trip on the stretch. I grow mostly a strain called Critical Mass and they stretch a lot under HID's. This is good though because it gives me the oppertunity to bend and pull them exposing undergrowth to better light. Once the plants bend they go crazy! I have read that certain hormones in the plant go into action causing multiple areas that grow close to the size of the main cola.

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Thanks for the 6 Stars Garden Knowm.

The room is a double garage. I have split it down the middle. I have another 6 lights that I just set up on the other side.

The roots bind together like crazy. When I replace my dirt after every show. I cut the dirt into squares. The dirt is stuck together from all the roots.

I think I have fixed my picture quality in my camera. It was set to Fine. I changed it to Uncompressed.

My frame is set to 2032x1536. I have been down sizing the pics to half the size before I up load them to the post. Otherwise It takes a long time. I have dial-up out here in the sticks. I know it sucks!

If anyone could tell me how to set my settings a little better on my Camera that would be so helpfull.

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How are you powering 12 lights? What watt are they? That's my kinda set-up!:thumbsup:

First off I'de like to say that this thread is a wealth of info for those who are looking to excel. Tranoble, you are a modern hero for opening these jokers' eyes.
This man (Tran) is operating a growing op that you are all drooling over and yet you give him shit about his pictures, soil, hood, and co2 practices. Shut up and listen to the man!! Read the mother lovin thread!! Twice if you just burned!! I think that he is a very patient man who enjoys helping others where some of you are just looking to prove him wrong about something so you look cool for your friends. Whatever, this shit works!

Enough of that. Tranoble, I've been using sealed rooms for the past 15 years and have had great sucess and wouldn't go any other way. Controlled enviroment, right? Your feeding schedule is much more aggressive than mine which i find intrigueing because I have found with advance nutes that I get burn if I increase too much. I am going to try your schedule to a T and see what happens. Thank You for that schedule.
My next question is do you know off the top of your head what strains are more likely to adapt to your feed/CO2 schedule than others? I like blueberry, ak-47, cotton candy...but would rather use a strain that likes the aggressive sched.
Thank You Sir,
PlantheadJ

Second that. Thread above. ten out of ten:)

I wish I could wake up and be you for a day!

WOW:jawdropper: nice grow.

Any more pics of the final results?

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These plants are in Day 4 of Veg.

What a difference in 1 day.

I think it's cause I spray them with Growth Excel every day right when the lights come on.

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little tip, the plants best use foliar sprays, after exactly two hours of day light... trust me (first thing in the morning is good too though)

Great info..what is the ph of the water? do you add anything to the sunshine? thanks

The water PH is allways between 6.5 and 6. I dont mix any thing in the sunshine No.4.

Hey tranoble awesome thread man i use it often. Who makes sunshine # 4 is from pro mix?

This is an amazing grow. Nice work!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:;)

Hey what's going on beatiful SOG you have there. What's the count in those beds? That was all cut dryed and trimmed? If so what was your yield off that. You talk of watering whats your method? What kind of nutes you running in the water?

If you did not chop those down whats your normal yield per plant?

Looking good man fuck those guys that had you pay for those clones. That's messed up charge them double to smoke:jointsmile::jointsmile:

Good Luck

All those questions have been answered in the first few pages. If you havent read all the pages you should. I give alot of info and will answer any questions. Some times I take a little while to get back to ya because I travel alot now.

Hey Tranoble my man. I copied your setup to a T. Except for the A/C units I could not find a water cooled unit. I purchased the CO2 6 burner with infared detector. I did the sealed room build everything knock on wood is solid. Iam currently running 3 LR1000's, 2 11000 BTU'S Ac's one 12" can filter. How much more does the sealed environment help the plants developments. I was having a PH problem but I was not running the CO2 in VEG which I just changed this week and the PH seems to have balanced out. I was not going to go SOG but I only have 12 DWC plants going and a few in soil maybe only 6-10 more. Yield is my concern. What I was going to do is leave the DWC and hydro Shit under 2 of the lamps and do a 4x4 bed with 30-40 plants in it. I just don't want to come up short I'm planning on starting the clones tomorrow 10 days into the EZ cloner after cloning put into the bed and 10 days later throw them into flower. How do you think I will make out with that set up? I have 8 Train Wrecks 4 Churches and was going to do Sensi Star NY CD @'s the clones. I know Yields are unpredictable but what type of potential do you see with my setup?

Great Thread and thanks for everything. After pumping out those beauty's you should be traveling with lots of $$$$$$ TOO LOL

Thanks again GL420

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are 2 shops that I know of that sell most of the equipment

except for the hoods..

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What up AXEL :jointsmile:
I kind of put my self into a jam with the whole DWC. I started out with 16 then dropped back to 12 w/ intension's of going w/ a bed like tranoble also. The buckets gave me every problem possible so far and been working to fix them. Now I think I ran into the worst problem so far. I'm either Root Bound or Root Rot issues I will have to see maybe some modifications will be necessary. That's what the whole system has been modifications a fucking nightmare. Well any I cut 20+ clones and tomorrow will cut another 30 in the next week I will have them in the EZ. After that I will transfer them and store in the VEG room than send them in W/ the buckets. I have to do this because the buckets are getting to big and need to flower....

Thanks for the info GL 420:jointsmile::jointsmile:

I have my CO2 PPM's @ 1100

I'm running 3 LR 1000 W/ Sunmaster Switchables..

23000 btu a/c Humidity 60 TEMP 82

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I allso drop my temps as cold as I can in the last 2 weeks that helps to harden my buds.

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What temp do you drop to?

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I have answered some of your questions in the post above. Glad to see you are liking the stuff. It's amazing. Isnt it. Good luck. Just by using the Growth Excel im sure you will see better results. T-104 timer is a 240v timer try that. Just ask the guy at the hardware store how to wire it. Its pretty easy. If you need help I can post pics of mine.

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I was also wondering how you wired your T-104 timer. If you had time to explain that would be greatly appreciated.

Temps: AS cold as possible last two weeks lights on and off drop A/C's to maxxx...


T-104: In the Thread he said if you can not figure it out take it to the local Hydro Shop... Really it is back in thread I studied and copied his set-up...


Good Luck GL

He has been gone probably traveling the world with the good cash cropping he did.. Tranoble is like a lost legend on this site I can not wait till he pops in and I hope he sticks around a while... Dude definitely knows his shit!!!!

2005 and people are still copying his shit in 2008 he was ahead of the curve for sure

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Hey Tranoble my man. I copied your setup to a T. Except for the A/C units I could not find a water cooled unit. I purchased the CO2 6 burner with infared detector. I did the sealed room build everything knock on wood is solid. Iam currently running 3 LR1000's, 2 11000 BTU'S Ac's one 12" can filter. How much more does the sealed environment help the plants developments. I was having a PH problem but I was not running the CO2 in VEG which I just changed this week and the PH seems to have balanced out. I was not going to go SOG but I only have 12 DWC plants going and a few in soil maybe only 6-10 more. Yield is my concern. What I was going to do is leave the DWC and hydro Shit under 2 of the lamps and do a 4x4 bed with 30-40 plants in it. I just don't want to come up short I'm planning on starting the clones tomorrow 10 days into the EZ cloner after cloning put into the bed and 10 days later throw them into flower. How do you think I will make out with that set up? I have 8 Train Wrecks 4 Churches and was going to do Sensi Star NY CD @'s the clones. I know Yields are unpredictable but what type of potential do you see with my setup?

Great Thread and thanks for everything. After pumping out those beauty's you should be traveling with lots of $$$$$$ TOO LOL

Thanks again GL420

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Disregard went soil in beds killed off the DWC pain in the ass.. Chicken wire my ass.... I like to play in Dirt the water is hectic with the DWC going to try NFT next time around. Cash crop the SOG with the 10 monsters and move back to the hydro side....

Is your electric bill insane?

hey tarnoble can you help me with my ultimate grow room please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hey tarnoble can you help me with my ultimate grow room please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aloha to you.

Lemme chuck in :twocents: here, just in case you are serious.

This Gentleman has done all of us a great service.
Almost everything you want to know is in this thread.
For Free!
I'd like to gently suggest that you begin at the beginning, continue until you get here,
then ask about anything that has not been covered.:)
:cool:?

Tranoble, sir, to you, from me.
Sincere thanks for risking your ass to help people you haven't met.
Yer a good man!

Mahalo nui loa,
Weezard

Ok, first i want to say thanks for posting all this, but i have a few questions for you. About how much money goes into the construction of one of these rooms. Would it be possible to give an itemized list of expenses. lights, nutrients, soil, co2 burner and all devices. I have 2 10x10 rooms. I was thinking 3 1kw hps in each. Could you give me an idea of how many plants i could put in there, what i could yield, what the big costs for setup and maintenace will be, or any recommendations for a setup of this size. All info would be appreciated

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Ok, first i want to say thanks for posting all this, but i have a few questions for you. About how much money goes into the construction of one of these rooms. Would it be possible to give an itemized list of expenses. lights, nutrients, soil, co2 burner and all devices. I have 2 10x10 rooms. I was thinking 3 1kw hps in each. Could you give me an idea of how many plants i could put in there, what i could yield, what the big costs for setup and maintenace will be, or any recommendations for a setup of this size. All info would be appreciated

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For the love of god, read the damn thread before posting please.

Hey folks, I want to jump in here and remind everyone of the site rule prohibiting overt talk of cashcropping on a large scale. I've removed a post that contained actual figures in dollar amounts per month running a particular setup- that's not going to fly.

Remember the med-used centered site theme please; I understand some of you may be part of a grow co-op that justifies a larger setup for multiple users, but please if you aren't, we don't want to know about it, or how much money you're making.

Thanks.

Tranoble nice grow man !!! i have been on canna.com for about a year and i have checking out all the indoor grows wondering why they all grow indoors cause they only get about a oz per plant seemed like alot work for only a little bit. I am used too getting several lbs per plant outdoors . but your grow makes it worthwhile for the indoor grow !! thx for sharing ;)

I have a question how much more yeild do you get from the 8 lamp vrs the 6 lamp

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hey tranoble great grow thread but i was just wondering i was on this other forum and this guy said using this exact style u can get up to 6 harvests a year i was just wondering if this was even possible with soil? i cant find the link right now but i will try later! thank! u:jointsmile:

It does not matter what style you use in order to get six harvests a year. Theoretically if you have a Veg AND a flower room, and you grow a plant that finishes flowering in 7-8 weeks, then you can refill the flower room six times a year, and hence harvest six times. This is all good in theory, a bit more difficult in practice. I am sure thousands of people are doing it successfully, i just learned myself to focus on one grow at a time. good luck.

allrolls, I think he starts flowering when the clones are just rooted or very small not much time of vegging to keep them small to fit more plants per square ft. in the SOG

D:S5:

4twamp that same method of six harvests will hold true with no veg time. two months to flower, 12 months a year and you can fit just about six flower cycles in that. That is one fine tuned high octane way of going about things!

Yup in a sog you can just start flowering a group of clones right when they grow feet and just make sure you have a good mom or a group of good mothers to replace the ones being harvested, and your off to the races...

D:S5:

This could be a coincidence...

City man charged in huge pot ring

As soon as I saw that first name in the article I thought of this thread.

I don't think so, that operation was of a scale 10x larger than what Tranoble was running... Still a reminder to all of us about the importance of security and discretion.