I think this is the deal hatch. She pretty much nailed it. We appreciate your input. It just kinda seems like sometimes you are the definitive authority on a subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
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I think this is the deal hatch. She pretty much nailed it. We appreciate your input. It just kinda seems like sometimes you are the definitive authority on a subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
I pretty much agree, but I'm thinking more like 80/20 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrorascal
80 20 is close to what we are going i believe opie....they look so sexy now!!! tonight i do some serious clipping....have pics up later of them...and contrary to popular belief it seems, im by NO means a novice to growing...just to LEDS...there are many ways to give imput and not be arguementative(spelling)...especially when your wrong....i appreciate your point hatch, but notice it goes against what everyone else is saying...so dont jump my shit, definitely when you are wrong anyway.....thanks all!!! ill take pics tonight right after the trimming...then 5-7 days...WE FLOWER!!!! woo-hoo
late guys
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whiskeytango
should i send a link of this thread to high times guys?
and these ratios for blue red are right...for who? who tried those on pot and proved they were right? Im not saying you guys are wrong at all....isnt trial and error gonna tell us what really works? please guys, save your money...physics, opie...dont build and spend till we see what i get....just trying to help
I say definitelyQuote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
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Originally Posted by SnSstealth
Ya I think you are right. I do want to do a small 1-3 plant test grow with various LED light ratios and wavelengths
you should totally spread word to high times, i'll even buy the magazine if i know what issue
they'll put you in lol
71% red, 29% blue. but thats just the light count. between different outputs and wavelength differences...etc.. i couldnt really tell you what the actual ratios are of which nm are reaching the plant in what amounts
Db:smokin:
SnS, I'm going to get a Procyon 100 shortly. I can't figure out how to look at your Babies though. Help I'm curious to see them
Stickied for your viewing pleasure. :stoned:
Hey your late....no im just kidding. Im really excited to see updated pics..:rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
welcome Melskid, now that youve registered and posted you should be able to scroll back a page or two and see them. taking more tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melskid
WT is trimming them right now. resisting the urge to rip the scissors out of his hand..:wtf:...lol
Thanks Bob
Db:smokin:
ok...i have stopped crying from the torture of the girls...but heres the new pics....soon as they start going again...FLOWER time!!!!
first 2 pics are the trimmed one i topped and promoted the sides good....8 tops on it...i owe this beaut to lookin at WH plants...thanks WH!!!
3rd is the test trimmed, and the rest are all the ladies with their lipo....lol enjoy
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WT
did we get stickied?......cool
WT
SNS those are looking good. I'm curious since these lamps don't generate that much heat could I use mirrors in my closet to help with the lighting of the plants?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
Hey Sns, to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, when you begin flowering, you might consider taking a few of the ladies out of the LED room and flowering them under a HPS. You'll still have the results from the many plants flowering under the LEDs but you'll also have a comparison of weight from extremely similar plants flowering under 2 different scenarios. It will show how well plants respond to the light change and it will expand your experiment to cover another question many of us may be asking; is it effective to veg plants under LEDs then move them under HPS to maximize harvest?
Just some thoughts
Peace!:jointsmile:
Agree'd! If you have a 600HPS , please flower a plant under it to compare the results.. The UFO after all is advertised as being equivalent to a 600HPS...:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by dgsgandalf
Sounds like its a good idea :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by dgsgandalf
Well I freely admit i know NOTHING about lighting but those look like some fine, happy, healthy plants to me. :thumbsup:
I second that motion to compare under an HPS....
:thumbsup: Amazing either way, can't wait to see what they will do under those LED's.
while it sounds like a great idea...we came into a one time stack o loot.....dont have a HPS...the point of this grow is to have an all LED grow...especially since i dont have my HPS or MH anymore!....lol but i have grown jack herer and bubbleberry many times before, so iwould estimate a yeild of about 2oz per plant w HPS...ill use that for comparison....but remember...the LEDs will produce even more potent herb...no one really knows why yet, for sure, but it happens...
so it doesnt look like i butchered them bad WH? those first 2 pics were a plant im trying to get to grow like your church did....heh...what im not getting here, is bubbleberry is 70% sativa, and jack herer is about the same.....dont know about you guys, but these plants look very indica to me.....may change come flowering...see how the buds form...soon guys...soon.......
peace, pot and micro dots
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whiskeytango
and since i am comparing EVERYTHING abou this grow to my previous grows....if i hooked up a HPS, that will fuck up me monitoring the energy consumption of the room.
and yeah bob...the 90w UFO CLAIMS to do as good as a 600 HPS....but we got 3 procyon 100w with better red/blue ratio...so i hope the 3 of these are more in comparison to a 1k HPS
"Original Blueberry is a mostly Indica (80% Indica, 20% Sativa)"Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
Is it possible that there are more variations of the Blueberry???
Don't try that on MY thread luis. :wtf:
Stealth I've noticed that know that I have a 400w mh ALL my plants' leaves seem to be growing wider and larger in general....I'm wondering if that's just a sign of good lighting for your plants. Maybe i'm just stoned but I was honestly thinking that the other day myself.....both the Whiteberry and WW I'm growing now have a fair amount of sativa in them yet both their leaves look very much like the ones on your plants.
That's just an off the wall stoner's theory......:D
good theory WH....makes sense
and the ratios...im going off of the big book of buds vol1.....pg 79...bubbleberry is 70 sativa....there are variations of many strains, ive seen 6-7 "blueberry"...but DJ short has the original blueberry...i only get my stats on strains from the shop that made the strain...im sure reefermans jack herer, is nothing to sensi seeds jack herer...question answered??? and bubbleberry id half bubblegum and half blueberry....more sativa in the bubblegum, and im sure they picked a more sativa oriented blueberry for their cross......been working with these few strains for years....lol
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whiskeytango
aw hell naw, im not falling for that again
Those guys don't look as professional. Their proof and pictures sucks. They say it rivals HPS, kinda doubt it. Looks like they only have two colors. What about carotenoids?
SnSstealth, nice looking grow. i am currently looking at led grow lights and was wondering if you know anything about the LED UFO?
HH... as I said in the other led thread... the link you posted is to 'one more time' .. another 2 spectrum led piece of junk....
Yes .. 2 spectrums will grow plants... plants grow under cfl's .. soo they do adapt.
The pic by my nic shows my seedling unit on its side... and for a seedling unit I use more than 2 spectrums... why ?? Because plants want and need them for optimum growth !!!!
try two ..... well i like what i see so far, i signed up taday just because of this thread so double toke to ya ,,,, i have not yet vested in theese yet, but will soon. i look forward to watching your progress. i will be moving soon to a place that is 'off the grid', nothing new for me, but i still want ta have an indoor garden. this is not practicle with hps, and skechy with floresants. when your power is stored in batteries it realy limmits the power you can consume.... thanks fer pullin me in and ill be back often .... frome the 'high' country, HB :chainsaw:
thanks adahars and hillbill, through the one hps vs. ufo you tube i saw and the experiments going on over at greenpinelane. i dont believe it has enough power to control growth. the plant in the video stretched like crazy, granted he didnt LST or try to control the growth at all. in fact alot of them fell over. my main concern w/ UFO is that the power rating is consumption, instead of led usage as in the procyon(got this from both horses mouths). in other words they use 15w to 20w of power for the converter which leaves 50 w for the LEDs, whereas the procyons (100W nominal LED power delivery, 125W total power consumption)sees much more power delivered to the lights. And at the same price of admission i couldnt see buying a UFO.
another new poster! wow this is a popular subject.
maspino...aw hell naw...lol
man I would love to get off the grid and out of the city. as far as investing, Id probably wait to see how we end. I would have no problem recommending as a veg light for those w/ the cash. anything beyond that is speculation at the moment.
Db:smokin:
WAIT!...is that....IT IS:yippee:we have pre-flower on 2 of them:dance::woohoo:<---Db, and about 5 days from light time change sweeeeeeeeeet
Db:smokin:
UGH!!!!! Can we pleaseeee just focus on SnS's grow here!!!!!:stoned::stoned:
Love it SnS, your women are looking beautiful. I've been here from the beginning and am looking forward to teh end!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Plants are looking so good stealth. hope you get hella lot of ladies in there. Keep up the excellent work both of yall.
dodo!:stoned::rasta::rasta:
fraction of the cost?,,,our procyons cost the exact same as the UFOs, and put out 15 more w.....do your research and you might have know this if you wouldve read the rest of the thread....
WT
wel guys.....ogt lil lovely white haits sproutin on quite a few o the ladies!!!!!! so the lights just came on at midnight...let them stay on till 6 for their last 18hrs....then they will wake up at 6 in the morning!!!!!yay!!! so flowering shall begin i guess tues morn?.....this is it guys...wish us luck....
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whiskeytango
man, I've been excitedly waiting for those words the whole time...after reading that I think it might have moved. (seinfeld joke)
Looking great so far! I really hope LEDs have made it, best potential start I've seen to date. Excellent work sns crew! You should get some college credit for this experiment....maybe some grant money, well in a more rational world maybe.
luissotelo,
1) As SnS is suggesting, typing in all caps on the web means you either defining a category or yelling. Since I don't think you were defining a category, stop yelling at me. It doesn't get your issue addressed more readily, in fact the opposite is probably true. It is most likely a turn off, and it most definitely screams noobie.
2) People will be happy to help if you have a specific question. Nobody is going to take the time to teach you something like CO2 theory and practice. There are many ways to set it up, and when done properly it's supposed to give you about 30% greater yield per harvest, and an extra harvest or two per year. For some pretty good info check out the Green Air web site (a popular brand). If you read their web site and a tutorial or two, and still have questions, I'll be happy to try and help you. Perhaps put "green air co2 generator" into your favorite search engine. This is in the qrow faqs, but there are many more threads as well: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...tor-basic.html
3) Think about what you are doing before posting in someones thread. Instead of going completely off topic, try starting your own thread. People often get a little pissy (some more than others) if you clutter their threads with irrelivent posts, or questions that can be answered by looking in the grow faqs, or by searching. Especially posts in all caps.
4) Don't feel bad about making mistakes or going against etiquette when you are new. We all got to learn at some point, just make sure you try to learn from your mistakes.
I hope this is helpful.
Hey TheFanLeft, welcome to the club. Glad to have you. I too am excited to see how these plants do at flowering.
welcome thefanleft,Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFanLeft
So you waana send us some grant money?...lol great to see you here
Db:smokin:
Hey guys,
I wanted to give an update on the room setup. when building the closet, I had this "great" idea to use a regular shower curtain and line it w/ mylar to cover the 5' x 7' opening. worked ok, but the noise issues were ridiculous and the constant battle w/ duct tape, so we took that out yesterday. my roommate and I (read i dont know construction and he does) framed the opening and it now has a plywood door and much more controlled venting w/ range hood ducting (2, 3" x 10"). have to finish with mylar and seal cracks this morn. I am much happier w/ this design and wish i had done it in the first place.
DB:smokin:
P.S. Opie, your selflessness knows no bounds and thank you for your help:thumbsup:
Stealth you may want to consider flat white paint at some point rather than mylar. MUCH easier to deal with. ;)
Yeah i know, but with the LEDs I wasnt sure how good the reflection would be. they are not a bright white light reflecting off a white wall. still just guessing here. I even toyed with the idea of louminous magenta paints. Just as light is broken up into red, green, and blue, the base pigments for paint are magenta yellow and green. magenta paint is that color because it absorbs green light and reflects red and blue. hmmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
any chance youve seen this: liquidreflector its the stuff they use to make lines on the road (or the same theory at least). I may try combining the magenta paint w/ the glass beads...lol.
Db:smokin:
P.S. sorry WH got going and it became techie;):D