Please help! Droopy Plants

Actually what I mean by light leaks is lighting getting into the room during the dark period of 12/12. The room must be absolutely black....no outside light sources coming in....AT ALL! This is pretty critical during flowering as any differing patterns of lighting will completely confuse the plant. Remember my friend? Her first grow she "forgot" to turn the light off several times...a few times didn't cover it well so light got in......her plants reverted back to vegetative growth. Another cool side effect of light leaks.....major hermi-ness. Your growing area should be as lightproof as if you were developing photos......;)

One last tidbit....the photos from earlier today.....for day 16 I would be very happy with that amount of "femaleness" showing on the plant in the middle pic...don't know why it took me all day to put the photo together with the discussion....peanut-headedness I guess. ANYWAY it seems right on "turning time" to me so all that discussion about lights leaking is probably all moot anyway.

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Gotcha thanks for the quick responseI musta had a brain fart that I didn't take "light leaks" as the dark period...I realized it when I woke up this morning and decided to come post that I was being a dumb dumb before...

Well here's the basic setup of the room...it's completely closed so at night the only thing it gets is a tiny sliver of light through the vent window...and there were 2 orange lights, one on the surge protector and another orange one on the heat fan to regulate the temp in the room as it gets kinda cold at night...both of these lights are clearly visible if you look right at them so they could possibly be having some affect(but obviously not very bright...I'll get some spray can insulation to catch any tiny leaks into the room and use duck tape to cover the window and 2 orange lights...Once I'm done constructing the room it will be completely black I'm still using plastic as some of the walls etc actually there will be 2 or 3 sectioned rooms inside the big room I'm making now but I'm still debating on that so I'll keep ya guys posted

Except for those 3 spots I couldn't see the back of my hand at arms length in front of my face so hopefully it wasn't that bad

And I do remember the hermie situation...I think I read somewhere that forcing a hermied female to pollinate the other females creates feminized seeds...I think I'll probably use that technique at some point

Yer probably right about the "femaleness"...I didn't think of this before but the first pistil had only shown 11 days prior to that pic...that combined with all the other stresses might cause a low yield anyway...since I've only done 2 soil grows before this and never any experience with water I don't have a good way to estimate.

I'll just try to be patient, maybe my mouth is just watering for some cause I've been sober for so long

PS I've been wonderin how are your babies comin along? Have you been able to up there nutes yet?

They seem to be doing well at this point.....they've been in hydro since 3/10 and I'm just now getting them to 400ppm. I've already topped them once. Will post a pic when they grow back in a litte. :)

I can't wait to see them hound I'm glad they are doin well...just outta curiosity how many times to you top em? cause if I remember right you had bushes the last time ;-)

I plugged up the few light leaks I knew of and ended up checking once the light turned off to make sure...I found that the space heater that goes on once the light is off seems to glow...the coils heat up to produce heat but have somewhat significant lighting as a side effect so I just removed the space heater for now...I don't think the room will get under 60 anymore and hopefully the plants won't mind growin at 68-70 during the day

The roots of the cracked seeds grew incredibly last night and 2 are almost 1" long so I'll have to be gentle when planting them

Eve has shown a bit more development but doesn't have nearly the speed of Zola...lotsa hairs poking out now even a bit out the top of each shoot I'm 100% on her now and if she continues at this rate I'll be using her clones only as the mother if the bud is comparable to Eve anyway but I have a long way off before worrying about that

Now I just have to prepare myself for Monday heh

They all look female to me but for real you gotta get it dark as hell in there at night. ANd try to not let the temps fluctuate more than 10-20 degrees. The plant is hearty and delicate at the same time. It can be hard to get all the temps right and the lights dark and the nutes in the right spot but you gotta do all that shit to get the dope. But the dope is dope as hell. The plants will survive the mistakes we make - gracia de deus.

They do survive indeed...thank god for the way I treat them. Tom is right (again!..he is on it!!!:))about the darkness....that may very well be why the going is slow....not dark enough. Like developing a photo.....

I usually top my plants twice to end up with 4 main colas....last time I think I topped everything 3 or 4 times which was a huge part of my problem. Yes they grow back but with the limited room for roots and leaves etc it was not a good thing to do. This time I will top my usual amount which seems to work the best for me with spacing, lighting etc...

Since I see the link here I'm off to check out Tom's grow.....more later.....

Dark as in dark, as in pitch black dark, as in so dark if you spin around 3 times real fast you have no idea where the door is....LOL

I have seen it said that a "little light" doesnt hurt because outside there is the moon and stars, and streetlights, and what the hell ever. I say bullshit. Make it pitch black, period!

Dial in ventilation and make the room light tight, and then worry about growing. More air in than you take out. Dats da ticket. Yer plants will luv ya fer it.


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True Bonger, too true. I had some outdoor stuff that hermied due to a (not very much) amount of light coming through a kitchen window at night.....turned out to be plenty to screw up the plant. Had two nice flowering haze plants about 4 feet tall that hermied on me. These days I use the DM Feminiser (now called Reverse) and not a hermie since those days but I'm also very careful about my lighting. It's amazing to me how much stuff has been invented for growing since my younger days (the ice age :D )

Ps I ended up hanging some very dark materialed curtains in a corner of my spare bedroom to lightproof the growing section. Works great for me and very easy to pull back the curtains daily to light up the room. Also helps with the ventilation as the air flow is slowed but not restricted.

Hell, I invented dirt, and remember when rocks were still soft......LOL I am an oldtimer myself. Make it pitch black, and save yer money on that Reverse stuff.

Old lady was overly impressed when she came home and I had plywood boxes built over the windows. She thought that was real special. Was almost as good as the day I took the wall to wall carpet up in my grow room. I think the only reason she puts up with it is becuse from 6 at night til 11-12 she never sees me. I have a small flat screen, laptop, and a little desk with a comfy office chair in the corner with a partition up so the HPS's dont blind me. Even put a laundry sink with R.O./regular water in grow room. Makes nute changes a breeze now. Existing plumbing was already in the wall, just had to tap into it. Very simple. Now Zandor says I need a cement mixer. Shit, I am not sure how I am going to convince her its a must have device, but I am thinking:D :D

Keep em growin,
b0nger