national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Gumby
ya, you pretty much helped me out... you're ignorant
you argue no better than Bong and I'm sorry I didn't realize that with your pentagon BS... but, you still doing a great job at being a Mod... but you are ignorant when it comes to a different view
I completly understand your view and plan and understand where your money comes from...
I can find just as many BS plans taxpayers pay that you did... mine is only bullshit because you don't agree not because of the money...
you don't want to rebuild mexico... it's not about the money... you just don't want to help out... I just hope you understand that... I want to help them and give them a reason to go.... you just want to kick them out... that's is the only difference between our plans.. you calling mine bullshit is only because you don't want to help and you disagree with giving them money...
how long is it gonna take you to build that wall by the way?? and how long is it going to take you to round up the 20.000.000 people?? you really wanna talk about flaws in plans... you really think you can do yours in 5 years?? you think we just stop paying with yours?? if we don't stop till they leave then where do you get your money from?? we can't use the money if they are still here can we?? are you just going to ask them?? cause you need money to round them up and get them out... and you won't get that till they leave... and they can't leave till they get that money... oh, shit... your plan has yet another flaw... but even when you do get them out... you still need to build that wall... if you think it can be done in 5 years your just proving your stupidty even further... so until that wall is there they are still coming back, costing more money and still using the money you need... uh, oh... another flaw...
how is it that you can get the money for them for not being here to round them up and get them out?? when you answer that question follow it with 'and that can be used to help rebuild'... cause it's going to be the same time... then when you answer the question of the money to build the wall (untill they stop coming in) follow it with 'and that can be used to build their country and give them a reason to go back....
then when you ask yourself how much will it cost to keep the wall maintained, armed, gunned, manned.... think of how much you could keep giving to mexico to help them maintain their better nation... giving them a reason to stay...
look at canada... why don't you want a wall there?? they can come in too... why not build one there?? cause they don't want to come cause they have a nice country... wht can't we just try to do the same for mexico.. if we are really the nation fighting for freedom, why not help our nieghbor...
You ask me a question as to where the money will come and also call me ignorant for even suggesting that it would be available. I PROVE to you that the money would be available and in the long run we'd even see net savings.
I ask you where YOUR money is coming from and there is no response except for bullshit slams and how is this wall going to be maintained. Well, as far as maintanance, I do believe the estimate in 5 years, supporting your illegal buddies is at $61,000,000,000.....I'll use that for maintanance and with the National Guards help (people already on the budget) we'll have security on the border.
Now answer me for ONCE!
HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO FIND THE MONEY TO SUPPORT YOUR BUDDIES IN THE U.S. AND ALSO REBUILD MEXICO? You cant!
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO COMPLETELY OVERHAUL THE INFRUSTRUCTURE OF MEXICO? You don't have a clue!
PLEASE feel free to change the answers and remember, supply supportive links.:D
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
You ask me a question as to where the money will come and also call me ignorant for even suggesting that it would be available. I PROVE to you that the money would be available and in the long run we'd even see net savings.
I ask you where YOUR money is coming from and there is no response except for bullshit slams and how is this wall going to be maintained. Well, as far as maintanance, I do believe the estimate in 5 years, supporting your illegal buddies is at $61,000,000,000.....I'll use that for maintanance and with the National Guards help (people already on the budget) we'll have security on the border.
Now answer me for ONCE!
HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO FIND THE MONEY TO SUPPORT YOUR BUDDIES IN THE U.S. AND ALSO REBUILD MEXICO? You cant!
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO COMPLETELY OVERHAUL THE INFRUSTRUCTURE OF MEXICO? You don't have a clue!
PLEASE feel free to change the answers and remember, supply supportive links.:D
I do believe the estimate in 5 years, supporting your illegal buddies is at $61,000,000,000.....I'll use that for maintanance and with the National Guards help (people already on the budget) we'll have security on the border...
I'm going to use that money... that has what I have been saying the whole time... the same money you are going to use... I do not know numbers but you also don't have numbers for rounding them up... our government hasn't figured it up yet... no one knows... no one knows the impact of them leaving... of how much it will take away from our economy... you don't have that figured in...
But either way... the same money you want to use to build a wall with I want to help out mexico with... the same money ... why don't you understand that...
if you want to debate plans then please say that and I'll be more than happy to go through your bus and 8th wonder and point out what is wrong... but why don't you understand that the same money you want to use and purpose to use, I want to use...
why can you not understand that I can use the same money you can... there is nothing to debate about that... why do you keep thinking that is the issue?? it's not... it's the same money...
the only thing that is different is that you want to build a wall and I want to help mexico...
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i believe it is closer to 12,000,000 not 20,000,000. and I would say have them pay taxes before we give them aid instead of the other way around. and no democracy in the world would deport all of them... except maybe Mexico, but they have a big problem with those people from Guatemala (Mexicans are encouraged to beat, rape, shoot, and steal from illegal immigrants living in Mexico)
the main reason to tighten up the borders (look it's plural) is for our own safety. i would have to assume that Canada has better security than Mexico though, therefore Mexico should be the first priority. also, in Canada the terrorists will freeze their desert lovin nuts off...
a statistic said something along the lines of 40% of all weapons people attempt to cross the Mexican border with actually make it. this includes weapons of more impact than small arms, such as explosives.
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Gumby
I do believe the estimate in 5 years, supporting your illegal buddies is at $61,000,000,000.....I'll use that for maintanance and with the National Guards help (people already on the budget) we'll have security on the border...
I'm going to use that money... that has what I have been saying the whole time... the same money you are going to use... I do not know numbers but you also don't have numbers for rounding them up... our government hasn't figured it up yet... no one knows... no one knows the impact of them leaving... of how much it will take away from our economy... you don't have that figured in...
But either way... the same money you want to use to build a wall with I want to help out mexico with... the same money ... why don't you understand that...
The same money??? The money I'M talking about is the money saved by NOT HAVING THEM HERE! Your keeping them here and rebuildiing Mexico....
if you want to debate plans then please say that and I'll be more than happy to go through your bus and 8th wonder and point out what is wrong... but why don't you understand that the same money you want to use and purpose to use, I want to use...
Because it's not....your plan has them staying in the U.S. costing us that cash, mine has their free ride done and the cash is availabe...BIG DIFFERENCE!
why can you not understand that I can use the same money you can... there is nothing to debate about that... why do you keep thinking that is the issue?? it's not... it's the same money...
the only thing that is different is that you want to build a wall and I want to help mexico...
You really can't be this thick. SERIOUSLY!:eek:
national illegal immigrant day!!
it will cost you money to find them and put them on busses... it will cost you money for people to do that and for gas for the busses... it will cost you money to keep the paper work for them.... it will cost you money to get them out...
you will not have the money for them not being here until you get them out...
and you cannot get them out unless you have money...
that money... the money you will use to get them out with... the money you will use before they leave... that is the money I will use... the same money...
when they leave we will save money... the money you purpose to build a wall and keep it maintained... that money... the money for them not being here...
that money will go for them to stay in mexico... they came here with out anyone having to round them up and ship them out... if we give them a reason to go back to mexico..... we don't have to spend the money you need to ship them out...
mine would cost less than your plan... and it would be the same money... please understand that, I'm getting tried of trying to explain the fact that both cost money and that it's the same money..
national illegal immigrant day!!
psycho i understand what you mean about it being different money...
so where would the money come from?
it's a good idea
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by xblackdogx
psycho i understand what you mean about it being different money...
so where would the money come from?
it's a good idea
I look at TODAYS cost and compare it to the future cost. We can begin projects, go to war, send foreign aid, etc....on a moments notice so it's not like we can't find deportation cash. Look at posts #85 and #86 where I put in actual expenses we see today and what they project for up to 2020. If we spend the money today on this massive of a project at todays costs, we will be saving close to a quarter trillion dollars by the end of a five year period.
This year alone is going to cost the fed $36,000,000,000! Spend THAT money now to begin deportation and construction with U.S. labor. They show up at a jail, deport, hospital, deport. At least those wages will be taxable and also be kept in our market of being sent off to some other country to help out granny.
â??Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you will not have to listen to his incessant whining about how hungry he is.â?
About 10% of Mexico's total population is in the U.S. illegally.....let them go home and do some fishing! They've been taught how to fish being here illegal learning the system.
national illegal immigrant day!!
^^ yea i understand...
i was directing my question portion to gumby...
it was clear in my mind, but not descriptive in my post :p
i meant it was a good idea gumby,
but where would the money come from ?
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by xblackdogx
^^ yea i understand...
i was directing my question portion to gumby...
it was clear in my mind, but not descriptive in my post :p
i meant it was a good idea gumby,
but where would the money come from ?
I've been asking the same thing over and over......:rolleyes:
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One LAST time attempt here:
You have a neighboy...dog is shitting in your backyard and you notice the neighboy himself in your kitchen stealing food from your fridge. You mention it to the neighbor and he laughs and does it again, and again. :mad:
My thinking is that I fence my backyard from having dog shit all over and put better locks on my doors and windows to keep the neighbor out. I suppose I could just shoot the both of em' but I'm a peaceful man!:D
Gumby wants me to believe that he would use fence money and lock money to fertilize his neighbors yard so it will be more appealing for the dog to shit in and also load the neighbors fridge so he don't steal any more food.:rolleyes:
