That is IT!

i don't understand how anyone can object to world war 2. in my opinion it was the only war that was necessary. if you have a point to prove cocacola, prove it nicely, you don't need to attack me like i know you're planning on doing, as usual.

oh, and the bible is a good novel. exciting, epic, and pretty fun to read. not a very happy ending though.

World war 2 was necesarry. But only because we fobbed off Hitler with appeasement until it was too late. If we'd slapped him on the wrists the moment he broke a single part of the Treaty of Versailles, then it may never have happened....

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

First off, you apparently forgot that I never challenged you on history, but on your approach to the present. Which isn't to say I agree with the simplistic human drives you apparently think all of history boils down to. You're 15 and that's great, and in no way a limitation, but (hopefully) you'll continue to grow up and by the time you're 20, maybe the picture will seem different, and bigger, than it was before? I've seen a lot of people spend so much time talking big game that they never had time for anything else, and 5 years later they're still... talking.

Not a fate I'd wish on anyone.

As you say, it's my choice to agree/disagree with you. And believe me, every visit here makes me thankful that I have enough intellect to get my opinions from somewhere other than a cannabis website. Share away, be the revolutionary prophet of cannabis.com if you want. But maybe you could take some time and do some revolutionary work in the real world. Where we so desperately need it.
I'm so very tired of people thinking they do they're part online.

I've never questioned your passion Penguin, only your motivation. If you truly think that all government is flawed, that it's all a matter of gangs and rules of force, then what's the point of revolution anyway?
Just to be on top? Just to be king of the mountain and make the people under you suffer for a change?
I hope you'll continue to grow and see other revolutionary possibilities.

Fight the good fight, and make sure its worth fighting for.

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I didn't say I plan on being in power and controlling everything and making those who are under me suffer. If, and it's a big if, I ever do get enough power to carry my wish out, I will relinquish my power as soon as it's over. Power doesn't appease to me in the slightest. I don't want people peering in to my life just because I'm so famous and they don't have better shit to do.

My opinions do come from other places than this website, and although I haven't had the years you have had to develop them, I'm pretty confident they won't change much.

But, we'll see. And Polymirize, I love your use of the Socratic method and other things you undoubtedly learned in your philosophy class. You're driving me to go out and do these things instead of bitch and moan.

The point of the revolution wouldn't be to rule the people with a different government. My government would be a democracy when it comes to public works, but the law is simple and plain. As long as you do not take from another person's freedom or do anything to mentally/emotionally/physically harm another person, you're good to go. I don't know what the "punishment" would be, because I don't see how you could punish someone without taking from their freedom, thus breaking the law my government would revolve around. I'd probably leave it in the hands of the victim or their family. I know there are flaws in this, but I have a long time to try and work them out.

P.S. I never claimed you challenged me on history...Either you misinterpreted my words or I wasn't thinking strait. Either way, I know you weren't challenging me.

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I guess I wouldn't want to call you "better" per say. But you've definately demonstrated a better assessment of the facts.
Mad props man. That sounds like an intense double-major.

And as anyone with a nice piece of paper should know, it's not the paper that's important, but rather the insights and understandings gained. Or something like that, I dunno, my scrap of paper says philosophy on it.

As paper its without any real value, but with over four years experiece in critical thinking, I like to think of it as something worthwhile.

Anyway, to conclude, way to conduct yourself with a little class insanity. Don't think it's not appreciated.

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Dude, you think way too much. Give your brain a break! It does not matter. Drop it. You're only good rebutal is, "you're 15". No one really cares about this. We smoke weed, we stand up for that. Are you saying we shouldn't?

I hope this makes sense! I'm not too sure!

Um...he didn't say that me being 15 was a bad thing...Are you all right, man?

Forget bout it. I never posted here, ok?

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

First off, you apparently forgot that I never challenged you on history, but on your approach to the present. Which isn't to say I agree with the simplistic human drives you apparently think all of history boils down to. You're 15 and that's great, and in no way a limitation, but (hopefully) you'll continue to grow up and by the time you're 20, maybe the picture will seem different, and bigger, than it was before? I've seen a lot of people spend so much time talking big game that they never had time for anything else, and 5 years later they're still... talking.

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Sorry for reposting, the him talking bout penguin being 15 is in here btw.

off topic!

people usually use the age argument when they don't have any way to argue what the person actually said. same goes for when someone types out a long paragraph with good reasoning in it and it gets responded to with

"wow man it's YOU'RE not YOUR you idiot, gosh you're so stupid!"

that's a famous "i have no argument so i'm going to nitpick to save my ass" online response :D




but i will say this: at 15 years old your views will begin to change radically throughout the next 5-10 years and i guarentee that if you'd look back on this you'd have a different approach to the subject completely.

that has NOTHING TO DO with knowledge at all. knowledge and mental maturity are two completely different things

i guess my arguments kind of ambiguous, im standing up for you here penguin!!

I'll agree with that. In only 5 years, you'll be surprised how much you learn, and how different you look at things. But at only 15, you sound wise beyond your years, but don't let that go to your head.

Okay, go ahead and let it. props.

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off topic!

people usually use the age argument when they don't have any way to argue what the person actually said. same goes for when someone types out a long paragraph with good reasoning in it and it gets responded to with

"wow man it's YOU'RE not YOUR you idiot, gosh you're so stupid!"

that's a famous "i have no argument so i'm going to nitpick to save my ass" online response :D




but i will say this: at 15 years old your views will begin to change radically throughout the next 5-10 years and i guarentee that if you'd look back on this you'd have a different approach to the subject completely.

that has NOTHING TO DO with knowledge at all. knowledge and mental maturity are two completely different things

i guess my arguments kind of ambiguous, im standing up for you here penguin!!

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Thank you man! I did not want to type that out lol