SeedKing's 1st Grow Northenr Lights/ W Rhino

Have you given it a try? :) All of my secondaries remained uniform early on... Just a few tiny hair looking things, hell I could hardly see them. Then, now, approximately 18 hours after topping my soil with "magic rocks" I notice not only growth length-wise, but the little hairs themselves are becoming wider, and flat, resembling a leaf more and more by the hour. Let me ask you, on average, how long before your veg plants begin to make secondary progress??? I don't see any on your plant at the moment seed king, perhaps you'll add some rocks and take pics 48 hours later for us? I agree that if it were known to be a benefit among top growers we'd be hearing about it in alot of places... but perhaps that's why we don't... if enough people that havn't tried it or have heard from someone that your plants wont benefit from it, less people are going to be trying. My suggestion? Give it a go. I'm a beginner, yes. But I sense strongly that the rocks made a difference. :) There's no doubt about that.

Peace

No...I never tried it. Just going off what people way more experienced than I have shown to work, and none of them show the use of rocks. And since the person that came up with the 'magic rocks' only had one successful grow to their credit, I don't necessarily go by what they suggest if it goes against what people that have had dozens of grows suggest.

Of course photos of this secondary growth before and after would shut me up. But I think if you're new to this 'hobby' that it indeed can be just regular ol' growth you're seeing and not growth generated by the 'magic rocks'.

The other thing I would suggest is that if your plants are indeed 6 days old (from seed) then one 43 watt cfl would be giving every single part of that plant the maximum light it could recieve. If it's close enough. So to suggest that 'magic rocks' amplify this to the point of making the lower parts of the plant grow faster, is sort of ...well...far fetched as the plant just hasn't grown sufficient amounts of leaves to shade any parts of the plant. Allowing all parts to get max energy. Sorry. I don't buy it. But like I said, that doesn't mean that you can't do it. I just don't think it does anything and as soon as the plant grows any type of foliage, the rocks will be shaded and just be there...to look nice...and maybe promote mold.

Well I can tell you there will be no rocks for this grow.. but I am not against it.. It couldnt hurt it.. so each his own...

Marc, why do you think several rocks on the topsoil promote mold??? Don't most soils contain the occasional pebble? I don't see how a layer of them on top would cause MOLD... anyway's more to the point... I have proof that it works. You see, when I germinated, I did so in soil, so it was inevitable that some would pop before others. However my smallest one, who has received probably a day or so less light the the others, is also showing the same secondary growth as the others, at the same rate... this leads me to beleive that this did not happen solely of natural maturation. Yes, they are under lights, and growing every moment, so photosynthesis is def. a contributor... but so are the rocks. Why else would the younger plant begin showing secondary growth as well?

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Originally Posted by Marc Benson

as soon as the plant grows any type of foliage, the rocks will be shaded and just be there...to look nice...and maybe promote mold.

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Yes, but the idea is to get the secondaries going early, so by the time you have tons of foliage they are big enough to receive light, therefore speeding everything up a bit... the earlier the rocks are added, the earlier secondaries appear. Keep in mind applied rocks at day 6 and am noticing immeadiate changes... Imagine had they been there since day 1. :)

We could sit here day after day and never come to any one conclusion. You believe totally that it helped and I don't. You continue to use them and I won't. But it is curious if you believe they helped so much why was it that the person that caused you to use the 'magic rocks' didn't use them in their last/current grows? You sure think that if it was such a boom to growing that they would've had them incorporated into those grows. Kinda makes you wonder. Or at least it does to someone with an open mind.

As far as the mold? Well as I understand it you don't just throw a couple light colored rocks in there. You cover the top of the soil with a layer of them for..."maximum light reflectancy". If this is so anytime you cover the soil, add water and then heat, you promote mold.

I'm done with this. Sorry SK for this taking up so much of your threads space.

hey Marc! Yeah I was wondering the same thing... perhaps that's why he had the foil folded over the sides of his pots? Mabye to imitate the reflectivity of several rocks on the soil surface? Oh well if you say there is a possibility of mold they're coming off... I can't lie they were off the moment you said mold :) Although I must say I am slightly offended by the following:

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Originally Posted by Marc Benson

Kinda makes you wonder. Or at least it does to someone with an open mind.

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Was there a purpose to insulting my intelligence? :) Certainly dosen't help SeedKing...

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Originally Posted by Marc Benson

I'm done with this. Sorry SK for this taking up so much of your threads space.

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You seem to be treating our conversation as an argument... Be friendly man! No need for confrontation ;) We're all the same...

Peace

Marc, I have been reading past threads and you seem to be quite the asshole to everyone.

You wouldnt have to apollogize so much for fucking up somebodys thread if you just stopped insulting people, grow, knowledge, or in anyway.
Clearly, rasta is not being an asshole, stop and think and use your BIG brain, maybe you could have come to that conclusion?

If it aint your thread, dont post garbage.

SeedKing, I love your grow, Keep it up man.

With all due respect star it's those kind of comments that cause threads to be hi-jacked... My advice is to not step in if you see that two people might be arguing. I handled Marc's unmannerly comments maturely and respectfully, And that's where it should have ended. You calling MB an asshole is only going to cause more trouble for you... and more annoyance to SK. This is his thread, please, let's respect it. It must dissapointing to see such frequent posts then clicking your thread to discover a bunch of stoned fools arguing :D Like I said before, let's all just get along!

Starseed, I always play the devils advocate. If that makes me an asshole just because people can only think one specific way than I am one. If you can't handle it and see the only way to respond is to called people assholes then I think you need to relook your responses and see who actually is one. (ahem)

Rasta, I meant no disrespect for you when I said what I said. If you took it that way I apologize. I only was suggesting that an open mind sometimes allows a person to see things in a different light...which is sometimes the correct light. And I seriously am stoned very seldom and don't feel when I post I'm a fool. Just trying to help. When someone calls me on it I'll give them as much info as I have or can find and hope it helps.

People are waaaayyy too touchy about these conversations in these forums.