Calling out to DreadedHermie for a game of "stoner chess"

Hey DH, I liked the hash nickle and thank you for explaining that you use the extruder as just a press. I had visions of strange shapes like stars being extruded. I'm already using a 10 ton hydralic press to form "quarters" (7 grams of kief pressed between two quarters) of hash.:)

Yo Weez, I have been amazed at what I've seen with the eyeclops. The best example is looking at the collected kief. I always thought the first shaking was the "cleanest" and subsequent shakes where darker because they were "dirtier" from pieces of leaf etc. But after looking at things closer it appears that the bottom trichs fall off first, to produce a very blonde product and later shakings has more amber to it and is darker. And not that much (as I had thought) other material.

BTW for indoor pest control, I like DH's idea of pepper balls in a paintball gun! Just make sure you wear a gas mask when you go to do battle!:D

Q - KN4

Lookin' good.
Black is 2 pawns up, but they were costly.
If you can hang on to the 4 move tempo advantage, this game is in the bag for ya.
A good illustration of how early Queen deployment and neglected piece deployment can cripple your mid-game.

Don't help black develop any pieces, or let 'im catch his breath.
Force moves that mess up co-protection positions and crowd black into a tight defense.

"Rape! Murder!
It's just a shot away.
It's just a shot away.":D

'ey OM?:)
"I have been amazed at what I've seen with the eyeclops"
That's what I like about you, and DH.:thumbsup:

Dem udder boy, will grin wit' joy.
Den, stash him with dere udder toy.

But youse 2 guys,bot' recognize.
Snot jus':cool: 'sa serious tool.

Look deep inna plant.
Now see what ya can't.

(Or; could not previously see, but who's counting?)

Besides, I've got poetic license.
Came wit' da blue card.:p

Alohaha

Wakenbaked Weeze:stoned:

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

P x P


Sounds like an exercise in narcissism. :thumbsup: Does "Do you still need me to call 911?" count?

Last night, my bartender friend took a coupla absentminded knocks off a small joint of "Stickybud," which is only 3 weeks into curing. She was gabbing continuously; it didn't even look like any smoke got absorbed. In the middle of a third "toke" she suddenly stopped inhaling as that "deer in the headlights" look washed over her face. All she said was, "Uh, oh..."

Now, that, is a mini mind movie!:thumbsup:
I'll store dat in case I need a chuckle.

People tend to be kinda quiet after smoking Hermie's bud. The compliments come days later! Some of the usual praise:


"Stay away from me with that shit."


"Where the hell is my bra?"


"How long was I out?"

"My butt hurts"?:D


"Are you an angel?"


"What day is it?"

"Whaat tiime tst :):D:eek::giggity::silly::jumphappy::lol5::S2:"!!
"Dude! dat kine:asskick: !"

"Please tell me I did not eat ____________"
a) all those cookies
b) both of those pizzas
c) that Honeybaked ham you were gonna send to Uncle Fred

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d) Uncle Fred.

<pause> to :lol5:

Back?, Good!

Very good news on the polycarbonate greenhouse roof!
Transition lenses darken under it about the same as they do in open sunlight, so I assumed that it was transparent to UVb.
'Til one of my girls matured under it.

No, amber!
No tan!:wtf:

Went from water clear to mostly cloudy, to all cloudy, to we're out of room here.
Brought her up to the lanai for a 6 hour tan that gave them a uniform yellowish tint.
Then chopped and hung.
Only took 4 days to dry to "snap-off"!

Dude!
The same genetics that merely kicked my ass have gone into the "Gotta spend the night" stash.
And that was raw!

Now I have the led advantage under sunlight, and I'm thinking that tanning requires a shorter wavelength UV than I had thought.
That, or that the darkening involved infra-red. Hmmm...

Gonna dig out my bulk E-prom wiper and a hunk of the poly and do some pokin' around.
Dang! Things are getting interesting.

When this cures properly...
I will find a way to get some to you.
Yer one a da few dat could handle it, Ya ol' steelhead.

Oh yeah!
Just finished curing the first HI Homie buds.

The high lacked character when raw, but cures to superior visual and bodybuzz without tanglefoot, or mushmind.
A rare combination of effects.
Real happy wit' dis kine!:lovestruck:
This will make great stoner stocking stuffers.:jointsmile:

Carry on.

Wooze:stoned:

N - Q5

And black's only "up" one pawn--I just got one of urine.

Good to get a smoke report. I'm still curing my UV test buds. Preliminary samples were inconclusive. The exposed buds and unexposed controls were all taken from the "soil" indica in the soil/coco shootout. The differences between those UV-exposed buds and the shaded buds are miniscule compared to the difference between this plant, and its sister clone grown in coco (the "other" plant in the shootout. The winner, actually...;) )

The coco plant yielded easily double the soil plant, and grew its trichs a bit differently. They seemed larger, and continued to be produced over a longer time frame. So there were always lots of fresh, clear caps even though the older caps were totally mature. The older caps didn't seem to degrade, even though I did get some beautiful browning (15 reds + 3 blues :D). Actually, all the led plants grow that way; the coco gal was just a bit more so.

I will have to continue this thought later. :stoned: :D

Forgot to say it.

"Uh, oh...." :rastasmoke:

0-0-0

An' BTW it puts the king at QB1.
That's where yours should be as well.

Wonder why I no get browning?
Bloomery or greenhouse.:wtf:
3 different strains too.
15 reds 3 blues and nothing else?
Hmmm.
My coco grown lemon skunk is outgrowing her sister in Issack's soil mix.
If I evah find sumpin' betta dan coco
I'll be sure to let you know-o, bro'

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15 reds 3 blues and nothing else?

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Well, (kef, kef) I'm dealing with some slow-maturing strains. Of course, I tweak and adjust allaway through. So, over a long time frame like that, hermie's gotta play around a little. :o

I did an all-LED "test grow" under just a Procyon and my 6 + 2, right after I retired my 400 watt HPS. I pretty well matched the 400 with that setup, and since I was used to dealing with all that HPS heat I added some 3000K fluoros for sidelighting and topside supplementals at the edge of my primary light footprint. I would rather have just added more leds, but I got too sick to build anything for awhile there. It didn't make sense to me to hamstring my production just so I could wave a "100% LED grown" banner, so I just added the extra fluoros: a coupla 3000K 2' T5HO's (48W total) and about 80 watts (actual, Hermie don't play dat million-watt-equivalent crap) of 3000K CFL's. That "didn't hurt anything," but it didn't have much positive impact, either. It was real clear that the action was happenin' under the 660's.

So, when I was well enough I built another light (7 + 1) and added a couple more reds to the 6 + 2. So there's my 15 + 3. This whole system was still below the HPS heat-wise, so I added a couple 2x2' T5HO lights for 96 more watts. Not 'cause I needed them, but I was used to dealing with all that heat from the HID--so I lit 'em up, just cause I had 'em. :D So, I had ~225W @ 3000K T5/CFL, with maybe 350 watts of LED, including the Procyon. :thumbsup: At that point heat started becoming an issue again.

I positioned the fluoros very close to various buds (IMO, the only way they work well) and marked pot positions so I could keep things relatively consistent--certain areas got blasted with fluoro long term, other areas received only what I ASSUME was an inconsequential amount of reflected 3000K light. It appeared that the best bud development and the finest trichs occurred in the areas receiving the least "accidental" white light (almost zero) and the strongest dose of 660 red.

For late flowering, in general, I wound up disconnecting one of the blues on the 8+2, and running the remaining single blue on each lamp at low intensity. For finishing an 'outdoor' sativa I cut the light cycle by an hour (went to 11 on / 13 dark), turned the remaining 2 blues down to "idle" and backed off most of the reds a bit, too. (But that plant was nearing the end of her life cycle when things naturally slow down.) By this time I had removed the Procyon--it didn't appear the plants were even noticing it when I had the 660's cranked up, other than to stop stretch to the point of inhibiting vertical growth.

I left the T5's in there for work lights and photos, but didn't run them unless I had the bloomery all opened up --the power use and heat production didn't seem justified by any improved plant responses. So: there was some WW light in the bloomery from time to time, but it didn't seem to be doing anything that justified the added heat. (EXCEPT creating "stickybud"--a separate topic :D)

The bud pictured below was dead center under the 660's, right between 2 blues, too. (And well away from any fluoros.) I was getting leaf-bleaching and light-avoidance, and wound up disconnecting one of the blues and raising the light a bit. There's a "saturation point" for cramming high-power emitters onto a 100in^2 heatsink, at which you have to raise the light more than 6" above the plant tops OR drop the current below 1200mA. In my grow space, with the mutt genetics I have, that point is at 7+1. Cramming an 8th red emitter on the sink still gives a great bloom ratio, but unless I were to spread them out further on a bigger heatsink the light is too intense. Raising the lamp lets the light spread too much (IMO), and running the emitters at half-power is really poor planning.

This is a concept I'd like to get across to JJ: now that we have the ability to overwhelm a plant with light, we need to be start being real selective with our colors. Even the Procyon can't compete with the 660's for flower. Not even close. :thumbsup:

I know you, WT, and Appolonia have all experienced the light-overload phenomena. (The lenses on the Procyon's Crees make it easy to do.) The bleaching, stalled growth, and "ram's horns" (as Appolonia called it) are hard to miss. I don't recall reading anything similar from Old Mac, but it's hard to imagine he hasn't made some reefer plants say "uncle" with his T1's, too. Trying to explain this to a close-minded LED sceptic is difficult; no one who's got a lasting impression of leds as novelty panels is going to believe this is possible--"Too much light? No such thing..." :yeahright:

But this bud? LED grown only (aside from the above-confessed incidental WW pollution) with what I decided later was "more blue than necessary." The Goddess rolled a joint with some of this bud last night, thinking it was something less potent. By the time we figured out she had been nosing around in the wrong jars....

*Uh, oh...*

I could hardly move my hands. I shudder to review whatever chess move I may have made. I also lost a day again. :stoned:

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You just saved me some trouble.:thumbsup:
I was about to start futzing with infra red along with the UV.

What you just told me is that mercury vapor will output a short enough wavelength to rust-up some trichs.
(I should know that.)
And IR is probably not a player.
This means I can tan them indoors if need be.
Lot easier to quantify than sunlight over time, yah?

Just took a test bud from the greenhouse WW.
Takin' some snaps as it dries in the dark.

Then put the donor out in the sun onna lanai.:cool:
I'm taking some macro shots of the her in sunlight every hour to see what's too much and how fast they brown.
Then I'll have a benchmark for my QMV tube irradiation.

Thanks again for da "thinker toy", my friend!
It is being well employed.


Think, I'll cover my Quartz tube Mercury Vapor light with the polycarbonate roofing and see what gets through before I run off in all directions.

No worry 'bout da chess game, you are way ahead in position and time.:thumbsup:


Aloha.
Da zard dat hadda wash his keyboard wit iso.

I LOLed at this. Talk about a euphemism.


Risk of 'Non-passive' Failure (Lamp Explosion)


Explosion. Yep, dat's pretty "non-passive."

I learn more about what you guy's are doing by stopping by the chess board then reading your grow section posts!

Hey DH, that is one very ambered closeup and just red and blue? Honestly the first time I've seen that occur....wonder if it's a product of just being dead nuts at peak red or...you sure no far red or something?:wtf:
BTW I have said the TI's will stop a plant in it's upward tracks. Not long ago had a exchange with Apollonia about where the "sweet" spot is for growing with the Procyon and TI, too close no growth, too far no growth or just stretch. And your right about the skeptics, first it was LEDs don't work then if they see that they do it becomes something else...like my partner.:wtf:

Yo Weez, you are right that there is no magical missing chord when it comes to a good 2 color LED light....but there might be just a couple of extra notes that could sweeten the tune.

Have you guys read "the PAD manual" and what do you think? Can someone explain it?:D