thanks Jerry, I'm looking forward to a big bowl of pudding:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
maspino, u have any stats on that?
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thanks Jerry, I'm looking forward to a big bowl of pudding:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
maspino, u have any stats on that?
Db:smokin:
lol not me, those aren't my buds
Sorry Maspinol, that question is directed to Phyisicsnole.
physics...where did ya find another LED grow?...It would be awesome if you can give us a link to that pic....looks like about an ounce dry though.......need stats!!!...lol
jerry, feel free to post a link to your thread if ya like...we follow FF chart to the T also, but been adding a lil extra grow big....plants seem to love it....i wanna see how they react to more nutes...but you definitely cant go wrong following their chart...got a few friends that swear by it
WT
Yeh that Grow big is great stuff :) I use it in varying amounts in almost everthing including my house plants, foiler feeding, etc.
But when it comes to flowering, Open Sessimie, and Cha ChinG are the key to outstanding buds.
Here is the page I saw Growing Marijuana with LED, Growshow
As for stats they didnt put any out....still looks nice for 60W LED. I just cant wait for SnS's plants to flower!
Oh man, that link is to a grow RIDDLED with powdery mildew... not particularly good advertising! This thread shows FAR healthier plants!!!
Ok I got 6 plants in a 2'x3' grow space.
6 plants will give me around 12 oz min under my HPS. 600 watts though not 60 watts. Also most smokers couldn't get enough personal from that to survive between harvests.
JMO.
Jerry,
im sorry for being semi-off topic but what is the benifits from using molasses? Also what is the pH of the feeding solution after using the pH down?
dodo
Mollases has sugars and other benificial nutes. All the experts are watching this thread and can explane the benefits better than me.
The reason for the ph down is to counter the mollases and my tap water is 7. Mollses tends to raise your ph and too much will cause nute lock. But to answer your question my final watering ph is between 6 and 6.2 ph.
Ya I was only using it as a comparison for SnS's grow, considering his plants are much healthier than the link I found. It was just to show minimum results from a 60W LED grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
ha..thanks stinky, i take pride in loving my plants;) wont be any icky mildew on these girls...instead of molasses try succanant..at least for organic people..i dont really know shit about dro though, lol...i am but a dirty boy:cool:
thats pretty good yeilds jerry...600w 6 plants 12oz?...wow, and we got all 6 of fox farms nutes...now they have sledgehammer...its a flusher for salt build-up and nute intake....might get that one
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whikseytango
ew...our plants look way better!!! those things look whimpy and thin too!! damn i cant wait till we harvest, we already got plants thicker and bushier than theirs at harvest!!! not to dog them, but i think we will have way better results;)
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whiskeytango
Ya thats why I posted the picture so people could see how much better your plants already look and they haven't even started flowering yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
hey, did some googling
the 3 leaf branches are called whorled phyllotaxy
you can read more at this link
whorled phyllotaxy - Google Search
http://boards.cannabis.com/growing-i...led-phyllotaxy
poof........theres a thread on it
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WT
I found something interesting on this web page The spectrum
about half way down it says this
Sunlight contains 4% ultraviolet radiation, 52% infrared radiation and 44% visible light.
I wonder if plants use Infra Red light to grow?
Never mind....didnt read the line right below it....I got so excited thinking it was the missing link in LED growing...:rastasmoke:...too much vaporizer
Found that on this site Colorado State University Master Gardener - Plant Growth Factors: LightQuote:
Blue light is primarily responsible for vegetative leaf growth. Red light, when combined with blue light, encourages flowering.
So I wonder if having alot more blue light during the vegetative phase would make even healthier and bigger plants as SnS' (not dissing your plants look amazing-just dreamin here:smokin:) and then in the flowering stage we will provide red light....
Im sorry for all these threads but Im finding some good information I thought you guys would enjoy:
From this website http://www.iupac.org/publications/pa.../6301x0123.pdf
Carotenoids are involved in several aspects of photosynthesis, notably light absorption and energy transfer to the reaction center (RC) complex and protection of the photosynthetic apparatus from damage by strong illumination.
LIGHT ABSORPTION BY CAROTENOIDS IN THE COMPLEXES
The location of the absorption maximum of carotenoids depends on the number of conjugated double bonds; in the case of 9 double bonds (p-carotene), it is located around 4 5 0 ~ min non-polar organic solvents. In the photosynthetic apparatus, the maxima are usually shifted to the red by ca. 30 nm (-1500 cm-l) (ref. 3). One possible explanation of this red shift is the presence of a point charge on _the_ po lypeptide (ref. 3)
There are several clear pieces of evidence for a protective effect of carotenoid against damage due to high photon density.
So having the additional 450nm(450-490nm) wavelength for the carotenoids would help plant growth in many ways.
well thats good physics...since we have i think 7 red to 1 blue....if they are veging this good then the should be outstanding for flower....yippie
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whiskeytango
ok...question for the pro's here...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...
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whiskeytango
all at once if not you will get different sizes unless that is what you want, also those bottom branches gotta go they just use plant energy and blocks them from getting proper light well thats my opinion. I saw a guy tie the crap out of thes two plants literaly made an o with th tip tide to the pot and the branches shot up buds real cool expect he had weak ass cfls imagen with your lights.??
Week Before, Give it to heal. And it will transition in-to flowering faster and more vigorously.Good luck.Later
Whiskeytango,Hell F*&&&^%$%'n NO!!! I would only Top for more Bud-Sites!! Not remove Branches??? What THFCK That would not be acquirt for Your Research.LaterQuote:
Originally Posted by luissotelo
how would that not be ACCURATE?...im only talking about taking a few off the very bottom that arent developing well...remember, when you flower, the girls will double almost tripplr in height, so i DO wanna cut a few off the very bottom that arent developing well to make room for the ones that will...but what do i know....
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whiskeytango
When they stretch, The lower Site's will get better light? If you Hack-them the bottom will be bare. Hey that's My2Cent's, You do What you want!! It's your Grow. You ask for opinion and I gave you Mine. Later
I think I'm missing the part about accuracy as well. Lighting, topping, accuracy? I got lost.
Stealth if you want to prune them I agree with what was said....prune them all at once and then give them about a week to heal before turning.
hatch...why so damn testy all the time?....smoke more....didnt need to hell the fuck no me....let me phrase this differantly...if you look at my pics....there is overgrowth on some of the bottom branches...the developed healthy ones i will leave, but im taking all the very bottom branches that arent developing, that will take energy from the tops...off....i thought thats what ganja growers have been doing for decades...but again...what do i know...i did ask for opinions, but when i got a question back, if your gonna get heated, just dont answer anything on here anymore...we dont need that shit in here....just had problems with that a few days ago....
thanks for the imput WH and luis:jointsmile:...thats what i thought, just wanted a few opinions...fed them and raised the lights tonight...trimming-pruning tomorrow...next step.......FLOWERING!!!
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WT
Don't Mean to be testy, (Don't know why you take it that way?)
I try to give you a quick to the point answer or question. What's up with that.
You asked, we answer, Pardon the French!! But when you have waited all this time with your led Grow, And some-one Tell's You to start hacking it Down from the Bottom Up!! And not Giving it A chance of proving any-thing was a Bad Call!! And not to prune for more Bud-Site's and let it go Swim or sink.
I Have no problem on not posting in your thread!! I don't say anything but compliment's, Discuss on topic's, and answer a few of your question's.Later
i really hate how everyone really has to have the last word, positive or negative
let's just focus on stealth's led grow from now on pleaseeee
What up all? I just wanna say thanks to you SnSstealth your plants are lookin damn good. Thanks to erryone else too for helpin out on this grow. Its a pretty important one. I'm about to get back from Iraq and i'll be out of the army soon after and you know I'll be settin up a room and i thought I had it all planed out till i started readin this post. yea thanks. lol but yea good look and i'll keep watchin much love homie.
Thank you Maspino!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by maspino1
Judge whether you should remove low branches by their appearance.
Are the branches thick and strong or thin and weak?
Do the leaves they bear appear pale and curled, or similar to what you consider a healthy fan?
These things tell you how important they are to the plant. Spindly, weak growth is typically pruned off flowering plants, not just cannabis.
Rose bushes, for example, should always have the weak branches/shoots removed to increase flower size and quality on the remaining branches, and allow air to move more freely around the base of the plant, helping to avoid the fungal problems that plague flower growers.
Low hormone concentrations in these low, weak branches also mean that the plant will barely notice their absence and no 'recovery' time is needed. 2 weeks' recovery after a prune is necessary when you have removed a dominant tip with high hormone production.
Hatch, consider phrasing your responses in ways that do not appear argumentative, okay? It would be easier for everyone.
Stinkster, when pruning do you agree with pruning all at once then a healing period or do you think a leaf or two a day is the better way to go?
HEY STEALTH CREW I DON'T CLAIM TO BE A PRO... BUT IVE RESEARCHED ABOUT TO TRIM(fan leaves)OR NOT TO TRIM... WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THAT THE FAN LEAVES ACTUALLY PRODUCE SUGARS THAT THE PLANT USES AS ENERGY, SO EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BLOCK SOME OF THE LOWER PORTION OF THE PLANT FROM LIGHT, THE NATRUAL SUGARS THEY PRODUCE IS GOING TO DELIVER ENERGY TO THE PLANT.... JUST INFO I'VE LEARNED.... YOUR GROW YOUR DECISION... MAYBE TRY A TRIM EXPIRIMENT TOO... WELL THATS MY 2 CENTS.......Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth
LATER D:S5:
Well I never see a reason to remove leaves unless they are blocking access/air flow around your hydroponic emitter systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
But for the other stuff, all at once, never removing more than a third or so of the plant's total mass at any single pruning- this includes when taking clones.
Hey SnS, im starting my own thread for creating the "ultimate" LED grow light so i can stop cluttering up your thread...ill still be checking yours everyday though. So Opie, Maspino, SnS, check my thread and gimme some input
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ml#post1812805
7 to 1 is not the best ratio of red to blue...even for bloom. Plants need and want a better mix. 65% red, 35% blue seems to be about the best.
Both %'s include all the red and blue spectrums in the array.
Your gals are looking better and better with every pic set ....
thanks stinky and WH for confirming what i thought....the ones i was talking about trimming of are exactly like that...paler, curled...while the branches that are strong thick and continue sprouting, will stay...i only removed a few fan leaves, they were blocking a few crucial side branches.....appreciate the imput everyone
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whiskeytango