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Let me get some things straight. I don't hate Jews. I don't hate anyone. I don't agree with killing for any reason, although I do see that often it may be necessary.

Therefore I do not agree with any form of terrorism. I do not love Islam and hate Judaism. I don't feel strongly either way or another, they are just religions that exist. As far as I am concerned they are all humans just as much.

I don't like Israel politically. Just because I do not like Israel it does not mean I do not like Jews. I don't like America but I am still Christian.

Howdy Kombucha,

You state:" I don't like America but I am still Christian. "

America,was founded by Christians.

I suggest that you read my latest thread in the Politics forum,since you don't like America, entitled : "Canadian urges disaffected Left to move north"..therein lies your solution for your hatred and disaffection with America.

I know America was founded by Christians but so what? If I (or any other Christian) founded a death camp for babies you would still dislike the camp and still be Christian.

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Originally Posted by Kombucha

I know America was founded by Christians but so what? If I (or any other Christian) founded a death camp for babies you would still dislike the camp and still be Christian.

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I'm not sure what you mean by the phrase "a death camp for babies",unless you're talking about the over 40 million unborn children murdered since RoevsWade was passed ?

When I say a death camp for babies I mean a place where I take babies that I steal from their famillies and kill them in vast numbers.

By the way Torog do you actually smoke cannabis or are you just here to argue? It's just I've never seen you talking about it before and you don't seem to be the kinda guy who would.

THE SMALL PRINT:
Before anyone gets weird on me this is just an example of a bad thing that could be formed by a Christian yet is still disliked by Christians.
I do not in any way condone the kidnapping and slaughter of people in the name of proving Torog wrong.

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Originally Posted by Kombucha

When I say a death camp for babies I mean a place where I take babies that I steal from their famillies and kill them in vast numbers.

By the way Torog do you actually smoke cannabis or are you just here to argue? It's just I've never seen you talking about it before and you don't seem to be the kinda guy who would.

THE SMALL PRINT:
Before anyone gets weird on me this is just an example of a bad thing that could be formed by a Christian yet is still disliked by Christians.
I do not in any way condone the kidnapping and slaughter of people in the name of proving Torog wrong.

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Howdy Kombucha,

You still haven't explained what you meant by "death camp for babies"-unless you might be talking about the military-in which case,you'd be wrong..because we've had an all volunteer force since the draft was ended in the 70's.

As for toking weed,I've been doing that since '72..just because I love America and what She stands for..Liberty and justice for all,doesn't mean that I don't git high. If it be God's Will,I will have a lush and bountiful harvest of the most incredible wild flower,that God has ever created,by early summer. If God chooses to bless me so,I will have some wonderful medicine that I can share with several seriously ill folks.

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Howdy sawleaf,

I tell you what,you've been living around too many liberals,if you think America is worse than countries that are brutal dictatorships,as a Marine,you should know,that America,liberated over a billion folks from brutal dictatorships last century,and that we've liberated over 50 million more folks,this century. How you think that is bad,I don't understand . How do you figure,that it's worse to give folks choice ? If our foreign policy is messed up,it due mostly to liberals and the UN-both of whom are weak-willed and believe that appeasement is the answer-to feeding the wolf and making it happy..so that it doesn't devour our children.

I also find,that it is you-who does not understand who the enemy is-which is pretty sad,for a Marine. The enemy,is anyone that does not believe in Liberty,Justice and Freedom for all. IT's JUST THAT SIMPLE-PERIOD.

The only thing that Islam offers,and usually forces,is brutal oppression-at every level. The same is true of Communism..for you to make excuses for either and blame America while you're at it..is reprehensible and is not in the character of a Marine. I would really love to see you express your feelings about America-and see the reaction of your fellow veterans,at your local VFW and American Legion..I suspect-that they will stop serving you drinks at the bar-just for starters.

Have a good one...Torog

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Oh I know plenty of veterans who share the same opinions as I do Torog. We are the ones who see through all the bullshit and don't go waving the flag blindly. Our country won't do shit to help another country in this world unless we have something to gain or are attacked directly. We sat on our asses while europe was invaded during WW2 and didn't get involved until we were attacked. Iraq is about our oil interests, not getting Saddam out. We helped Saddam, help Osama, and we even helped put the Vietcong in power. Do we ever do anything in Africa where many people really need us? Nope, they have no oil or anything for us. You cannot blame Islam, do you have any muslim friends, have you read the Koran? It is the radicals that cause problems, but our government gives them all the fuel they need against us. Once again you show your closed-minded ways Torog, stereotyping Marines. We are not all the same brainwashed people that everyone thinks.

Torog, yes I did describe what I meant, if you look at the top of my last post before this. I did not mean anything metaphorical I just thought of something that would be pretty bad.

Sawleaf, well said, I agree with you entirely on your last post.

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Torog, yes I did describe what I meant, if you look at the top of my last post before this. I did not mean anything metaphorical I just thought of something that would be pretty bad.

Sawleaf, well said, I agree with you entirely on your last post.

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Thanks, I am not angry or upset with anyone I debate with online. I agree with Torog on a lot of things. Sometimes we just have a clash of views and opinions. :)

Religion and politics is a recipe for disaster. Take your opinions to the politics forum or the spirituality forum (religion).