god can not exsist

I've thought about this long and hard, and I've came up with the only logical conclusion. I am God. I am the only thing that exists in the world as I know it. Weed, earth, the universe, and you and everyone you love are only figments of my imagination. I'm not all that smart, because I haven't learned to manipulate my own thoughts yet, but that is okay because I have eternity to figure it out. I hope that I don't imagine that anyone is insulted by this and then posts imaginary responses that criticize my holiness. Now, I'm going to concentrate on believing that my imaginary computer is really an imaginary pile of some really great imaginary grass. Then I will smoke it and imagine that I'm really stoned. Thus, all things only exist in my omnipotent mind. Hence, not only does God exist, but I am now imagining that I have just revealed myself to all my imaginary friends (you guys). All you figments of my imagination should feel free to send your imaginary money to me, just like you do for my mental creation that I like to call Tammy Faye Baker. It all makes perfect sense to me now, and I will imagine that your fake asses also understand it as clearly. God (me) I feel so much better now.

So you're a solipsist? I know for a fact that I'm not a figment of your imagination, but I have no way of proving it, just like I have no way of proving to myself that you aren't just a figment of my imagination. But for the sake of convenience (and sanity), I like to assume that I'm not the only entity in the universe.

What's up, Papaw, you're not alone.

Papaw you are right, everything you see is a figment of your imagination. The important thing to keep in mind is that your imagination is based off of your interpertation of the world around you, thats what makes people unique.

Here's some interesting things that have a relation to the foundation of organized religion as a whole.

1. There is no such things as beginnings and ends , they are human conceptions. A way for us to label things so that we can comprehend without confusion. Absolutely nothing we have ever learned has led us to believe that something can actually be created from nothing. They can be transmuted but everything was always here. For those that claim there is a beginning and an end , think smaller. Less Macro more micro then maybe you'll see the "light"......

2. Religious people KNOW their god exists, However these same people usually laugh at others who talk of werewolves, aliens etc. Despite the fact that humans have been born feral with tons of hair (thus starting the myth) also there is a disease called lycanthropy look it up.....Aliens also have enough physical evidence to "convict a man of murder in court"(for an analogy of amount of evidence) however people are still called crazy.

3. Often people say god spoke to them or they met it. Why does it(not he it doesnt have a sex stop calling it he people) not show itself to all to save us all , since it will save you personally why would it not save ANY of us atheists....not one.....But, it'll show you , just not us....I guess it's like tinkerbell you gotta believe.....

4. All gods are derived from previous ones lets look at a timeline shall we and maybe you can pick up some similarities :). Zeus,white beard, manly man, white robe Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics such as jealousy etc. Odin, White beard, manly man, grey robe, Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics (mostly rage big theme in Celtic and Norse myths). Now Yahweh/Jehovah/allah/blah/blah/blah, White beard , Manly man, white robe, Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics mainly Jealousy , greed, Spitefulness (and pretty much every one of the seven deadly sins except gluttony(no need to eat he he)...Ah irony at its finest). If you dispute any of those emotional descriptions if "he's" your god well read your bible then ;). Especially Romans, Leviticus, Exodus and even Joshua...(there are worse but those are some fine overall neutral examples).

And of course just for Kicks the .....
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

(brought to you by the lovely makers of evilbible)

(just as to the imagination thing, the only problem with that entire hypothesis is that (not to be hostile) if I rip your heart out you will hurt , you will die. Your imagination cannot kill you. (Fear can from a heart attack, but thats not your imagination thats your pulmonary/respiratory system). Also A healthy adult will never be 'scared' to death. Their heart is simply too strong. So I just dont buy the arguement that we could all be the figments of someones imagination. Occam's Razor, its possible but is it plausible? Not even in the least in any way shape or form :).

But hey its possible im a purple monkey sitting in a dishwasher naked masturbating whilst I type, but once again is it plausible? No. Fun discussion well baked on a hill with friends (either the imagination or the masturbating purple monkey ;) ) but seriously considering it. No thanks Id rather consider that religious people might be right in even some small way.(which is about as plausible as the purple monkey too ;) ).

(sorry for ranting he he)

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

2. Religious people KNOW their god exists, However these same people usually laugh at others who talk of werewolves, aliens etc. Despite the fact that humans have been born feral with tons of hair (thus starting the myth) also there is a disease called lycanthropy look it up.....Aliens also have enough physical evidence to "convict a man of murder in court"(for an analogy of amount of evidence) however people are still called crazy.

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Lycanthropy as a disease is a condition in which a patient believes he is transformed into an animal and behaves accordingly.

And where is this mountain of evidence for aliens? I don't mean anecdotes, but real hard physical evidence that can't have possibly been fabricated by earthly means. As Carl Sagan put it, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1993 Nasa and the Air Force went public on CNN in late August of that year. The clips are usually replayed on most extraterrestial shows on discovery as well as the space network including talks with leading scientists (not fringers...) that have been asked to examine "implants" which have been catalogued quite extensively as not being of human origin (we cannot implant materials in a human body nor even create them naturally within our bodies without a human immuno response, These implants all share a few common characteristics, they give off an energy signal electro magnetic, measurable, and not just the materials natural fields. They are always in the body with zero immune response and rarely scarring (most of the reported scarring isnt actually where the implants are found, I can't say why , but I could assume if I wished from available evidence that they were tissue samples(the scars), it's once again what we do, Most implants are found in the nose or Nasal cavity(most not all of course), If you need hard evidence your not going to find more than declassified doc's on the net(or by travelling personally to view one of the many scientists with the "jars" full of the implants you see on these shows occasionally,considering research projects and concerns over funding they may be a bit busy if you can't pay for their time so maybe an email,as websites are "hardly" proof to most people even if they include hard evidence that would be in a book as well), Nasa isnt in the habit of keeping avi files onhand of things they've since retracted (as soon as bush got in no less.....) There's many more similarities if you'de like to see the episodes of those and arent in Canada I suggest searching Klite for "space network"(or of course discovery) and just ignoring the series shows and concentrate on the one shot episodes about extraterrestials, I've never seen one without a clear title, so I doubt it'll be hard to tell the difference between "abduction" and "farscape" he he). I'm sure you could do the same for the American Sci Fi network but since I dont watch it I wouldnt want to assume what shows exactly are shown on it.

Nasa also has hundreds of radio transmission logs which are public I dont know how you would interpret the following line from an astronaut walking on the moon. "They're on the horizon , just sitting there houston, It's a bit unnerving. (houston) "how many" (astronaut) "about 12 just sitting on the horizon occasionally moving away then back again" (houston) "ignore it go about your mission, orders to follow" (p.s it wasnt armstrong but it was a friend of his....). These transmissions were picked up by hundreds of radio stations and cb's across the north american continent on a regular basis, Ask someone who lives near a launch area and has for awhile parents if they remember listening to NASA launches back in the day. Even all the boring little details.

Then there is the astronauts over 50% of them have gone public despite the fact they have much to lose, respect in their community , government support(they are after all technically violating chain of command silence orders). Not to mention a plethora of High Ranking officials.

But honestly when the guy from NASA held up the baggy with a broken looking chunk of black metal and said this was not manufactured by any human hand nor in a planet's atmosphere (apparently according to NASA scientists anyway but pshaw what do they know), That kind of freaked me the hell out, even though I believe in aliens I would never imagine the government would admit it so blatantly. But then I look at what they've done in the past and all the declassified documents and ya think its not that big of a surprise actually.

If all of that is circumstantial for ya (after watching those programs and hearing the astronauts pilots etc, who are basically risking their retirements). Just look up declassified documents from any number of the wonderful government agencies which much to their chagrin after a number of years have to allow the public access to things once marked top secret. May I suggest Naval and Air Force for the most part for numbers, They are after all the most likely to spot them so it does make sense. But hey a huge number of american pilots seeing craft doing on the dime turns at much more than 3000 mph's naw thats just hearsay I guess, Thats probably why they're told to shut up about it and the documents are classified(for a couple decades usually).

Or you could ask the office for scientific research for a report of their journals it might cost a bit but you'de have hard copy of thousands of investigated incidents :).

http://www.osironline.org (or it might be free I'm not sure :) or at least cost you only printer paper).

Alone I wouldnt consider any of it perfect evidence but I've got motive , oppurtunity and a murder weapon with matching finger prints and DNA I'm pretty sure I know who did it.

Also I shouldnt mention this as it isnt really of import to anyone but me. But I watched the lights over Phoenix a thousand times as it was replayed for months as the world held its collective breath. Then poof everyone forgot about it.....Guess it was flares, just like the gov and news channels said, I especially loved the close up shots of the triangular flares with the bright lights underneath the large metallic body. Wish I had a flare like that, Especially the part where they vanished into the horizon after moving slowly over the city. Those were the coolest flares I've ever seen. (and if it was experimental military tech why havent they used it in combat since they obviously have worked the bugs out if they were just "experimental planes" over phoenix). The military tried that explanation out too....problem is they couldnt back it up so went back to the "flare" story.

(p.s the NASA guy specifically stated when he held up that baggy that the molecules combined to make that metal would have to be 1. made outside of a planet's atmosphere and 2. Would require us if we were to try and duplicate the compound to use enough power to power our entire planet for 3 years).

But once again I reitierate do I know any of the "aliens" or governements motives for sure...nope. But hey I do know they exist , just like I know O.J. did it ;). (nothing's 100% of course but hey thats how science works, better than religions 0% ;) ).

Hope that provides enough "hard" evidence. Unless you require a personal meeting with some sort of alien or retired astronaut. I dont have that kind of influence ;) , In fact if you can arrange it for ME , Id be more than happy :). Cuz Id kill for the chance (not literally but figuratively of course). Unless you find out Aliens ARE hostile then please no meetings ;).

(ended with levity in case it seems like i'm droning).

(I also already knew what lycanthropy was , I'm aware its a mental disorder as is vampirism, which have existed with us as a species for a long time, I was pointing out how natural things give rise to myths.....So I'm completely at a loss as to why you felt the need to explain it to me)

You might also want to rethink the Carl Sagan quote just because claiming alien existence isnt in anyway extraordinary except to those who think were alone and usually the centre of the universe, Extraordinary is claiming invisible being live in the sky smiting evil doers ;)