Few hours difference won't make much of a difference, so I went ahead and put the rooted clones into the second channel!
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Few hours difference won't make much of a difference, so I went ahead and put the rooted clones into the second channel!
http://imgur.com/kMIpjl.jpg
http://imgur.com/VU55vl.jpg
Kitsune,
Thanks for the valuable info. I really appreciate your time.
If I bought one of your 120w panels and used it in conjunction with my 120w HTG panel, would that screw up the balance?
I think I see what you're saying. Too much red, for instance, can cause stretching that would outpace the utilization of blue and thus the cell's resources would be utilized towards different metabolic processes?
BTW have you seen 206's grow with the 120W HTG LED? It was mega-FAIL 120W LED + Rainforest 66 + Papaya What do you think happened and what do you think can be done to avoid it in terms of light spectrum?
So in terms of LED, more watts doesn't necessarily equate to better growth/yield because you might be introducing an improper balance of spectrums-- unlike with HIDs because increasing wattage of HIDs increases the entire broad spectrum of that particular lamp.
Would you say this is true?
If I am using supplemental 42w CFL bulbs for the 120w HTG LED panel, do you think you can estimate the how many 6500K bulbs I should use? I was going to use a maximum of 4 CFLs. Should I go 2 6500K and 2 2700K? Or all 6500K? Given that the 120w LED was a 7:1:1 ratio of red:blue:white.
Man I have so many questions I keep hearing this stuff about 1W diodes being "less efficient" than 3W diodes. This seems like hearsay to me. Would you attribute the success of stra8outtaweed's grows to these 3W diodes? His ratio of blue to red is pretty close to yours I believe
Maybe I should off load this HTG led on ebay and get one of yours. Perhaps after my first grow. Man seems like I'm talking to myself. This is what happens if you don't allow edits after 10 minutes.
Relax man! Let me see here.
Yes, that grow failed. For one, nutrient mix seemed a little off. The LED panel was sub-par as well.
If you used one of mine with the HTG, the balance would not be thrown off that much. The HTG would act as a supplement versus mine, but it would still be somewhat effective.
To maximize what you've got right now, keep your plants shorter. 1w diodes are more efficient, but they have less overall penetration as they're not emitting as much photon flux density. But there are 3w diodes coming soon that will be as efficient as 1W diodes.
Go with 2 and 2 (6500/3000K) CFL.
Oh, and the off balance can work in both directions - too much focus on mass production and little focus on flowering hormone produces tiny rock hard buds, too much focus on flowering and little on mass production produces wispy fluffy stuff. A proper balance will produce nice dense colas and buds like in my prior pictures.
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There is also a difference in strain as well. Under the same environment my GDP would yield small but rock hard buds,.. where my blueberry has cola's the size of my fist! but they are on the light/wispy side. This is flowering under 400w HPS tho. So perhaps the perfect balance has to be struck per strain?.... If that's so, how does one grow multiple strains without having multiple rooms?
K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid!) answer is it can't be done,... at least not ideally.
M'kay,... M'abit cupshot :glugglug: so I'm gonna STFU now,... at least till tomorrow! :jointsmile:
"So perhaps the perfect balance has to be struck per strain?"
Hmm, I think that would be more nutrient-dependent, as chlorophyll is chlorophyll. As far as we know, there are only 6 types, and they only respond to certain wavelength ranges. In reality, only chlorophyll A and B are present in terrestrial plants, so targeting those is the trick. Yes, one can specifically target IR as well, but that has to be done in conjunction with the right wavelength of red, and in the proper ratio, otherwise you end up with a waste and a majority of your added IR having no effect at all.
Sory I haven't been around to update so quickly - a website literally ripped off my site's assets to make a site of their own, and after investigation, it's a credit card stealing site, meant to trick you into authorizing the purchase. No security, and my merchant account test card said "Can't Authorize" which means it's likely a tap/harvest site. Been trying to get it taken down to protect innocent and naive buyers of new tech. Been a victim, hated it, swore to not consciously know about such things and let it go unhandled.
Dratted Chinese.
"M'kay,... M'abit cupshot so I'm gonna STFU now,... at least till tomorrow!"
Don't feel bad. I get a little cupshot now and then (tequila being my weakness,) and that does lead me to being an arsehole online (I'm sure everyone has seen this a few times from me.) I just realize that I screwed up that night, and make the attempt to correct my behavior. It's taken me a while to mature, as I never had any stable family life, and I practically raised myself outside of school, which led to a wild child with a wild hair up the ass, possibly eternally.
But I try to be more serious and courteous, as my job title dictates, as well as my contract. I fail at times but since I don't do it while acting in an official capacity, I'm okay.
Well, my NFT system sprung a leak. 10 gallons of nutrients GONE in one night. Thank goodness I had the foresight to install catch buckets!!!!!!
There was quite a bit of stress, obvious signs of lack of water. took the two empty channels, completely disassembled them, went and bought some liquid nails, and used a syringe to inject a seal in the end caps, plugged them on tightly, then sealed around every crack I could see. Once those cured (I kept hand-feeding water every 15 minutes while waiting the 12 hours for the stuff to cure,) I moved the plants ever so carefully in to those channels, then went to work on the other set. I also went ahead and sealed up around my water level indicator since the reservoir was bone dry. Right now, no leaks. The plants have perked back up. I'll get a picture once the lights come on and I'll post.
Alrighty, lights on, pic taken. I took the outer quad bands, and put those in my mother/clone box, and replaced them with 90w tri-band panels. So the flowering section is running 230w LED. The mother/clone section runs 100w LED.
And attachments finally work again!!