And who hasn't done this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrenaline Rush
I think you and your family should enlist first, then cast your votes.
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And who hasn't done this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrenaline Rush
I think you and your family should enlist first, then cast your votes.
I get sick of the country with the biggest nuclear arsenal telling others they aren't allowed them, it's so damn hypocritical.
I don't see America imposing any kind of sanction against Isreal because of thier nuclear weapons.
America should take care of business at home before they go throwing thier weight around telling others what they can and can't do ,, isn't that called dictating? and aren't those who do it therefore DICTATORS ?
The US goverment is completely FOS !
A war against Iran would accomlish only one thing for the american people.
It would create more hatred toward us. More hatred = more "terrorists"
The fact that we've been over in the middle east stirring up trouble for more than half a decade is the reason terrorists want to attack us.
Going in and attacking the middle east more is only going to make the problem worse...that is unless we manage to kill everyone over there...in that case the rest of the world would hate us (more than they already do) and we would then end up going to war with them.
Killing terrorists makes about as much sense as killing misquitos with a fly swatter to end malaria.
unfortunatly, alot of the damage has already been done, if we stop everything and end any and all operations in the middle east, it wouldn't make them like us. Basically we are completely fucked if we stay and keep fighting over there, and merely screwed if we don't.
Imagine if china was building military bases in the United states and killing our leaders etc...do you think we'd just sit by and let them do that?
The problem can only be fixed by a foreign policy that supports non-intervention on other countries affairs (the principals America was founded on). We can't lead and police the world at the end of a gun barrel. We can only lead by example.
Ya, let's just let Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-Il get some nukes because we know they'll play nice right? It's not like he's ever threatened to wipe any other country off the face of the Earth right?Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
You people amaze me. I know America isn't perfect but I know we're the good guys. Someday all you anti-American fucks will get your wish, and when there's total chaos and dictators everywhere have nuclear capabilities and the world's a mess you'll all be crying about how America didn't come save ya.
We should definitely NOT go to war with Iran. Just get the fuck out of there and let other parts of the world deal with their OWN FUCKING PROBLEMS! We don't need to police the world. Just tend to your own shit and let others be. Almost every trouble America is in right now was caused by our blundering into other people's business which pissed people off. Hell, it pisses off Americans and we aren't even the ones being bombed day and night.
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The problem can only be fixed by a foreign policy that supports non-intervention on other countries affairs (the principals America was founded on). We can't lead and police the world at the end of a gun barrel. We can only lead by example.
A war with Iran? How many fucking wars do you people who support it want to get into? Afghanistan -> Iraq -> Iran... then what? Until we take over all of the middle-east, because all you blind people believed the propaganda on the news? Give me a break. You supporters aren't getting a fraction of the truth. If you were, you wouldn't support it... unless you're a fucking globalist.
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Originally Posted by Captain Jack Sparrow
What amazes me is that you think you're country is "saving" people,how do you come to that conclusion ?
Civilian Death Toll in Iraq Climbs
Some kind of saving when so many are dead huh?
then if nukes does it for you then I should assume you think we should go to war with Pakistan...Yeah we invade Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan.......We are making more muslims hate us every single day....we win the war on "terror" when there are less of those people willing to blow themselves up....this pre-emtive war policy will have disastrous consiquesnces in the long run....You are sooo uninformed about this war in Iraq, obviously. Look at the war profiteering, 70% of Iraq wants us out, the war was undeclared. We should be more concerned with Israel attacking Iran because we have 130,000 soildiers right in the middle of that fight. The approach to Iran should be de-escalation, instead all Bush has done is ratchet up the same rhetoric he used to get us into Iraq. There are Jews in Iranian parliament, 70% of the nation does not support Ahmadinajad (the number 2 guy in Iran by the way) just like 70% of this country doesnt support ours. Iran diesnt deserve to be bombed, we will unify all Iranians against America the munite one boot hits the ground.
On a long-term economic level, it would bring benefits to both Iran and the US if happened. Fortunately, I don't think America has the resources to carry it out. Besides, with the resources tied up in Iraq, they could not sustain this without printing more money, cutting the interest rates further.
Once Iraq is rebuilt under U.S. occupation, it could cause their economy to prosper, and benefit ours, since they'll be dollars being pumped into our economy. I don't think the troops should withdraw, we should not submit to our opponents. I didn't say enemy, because I don't believe they are, but the fact is they're killing our soldiers, and our soldiers are killing them. We shouldn't waste this occupation without getting some gains in return.
This occupation in Iraq is just a part of a huge economic battle going on in the world. I don't think Bush has much of a choice. Oil is the bloodline of this economy, 90% of the items in your room, made with plastic, and transported using gasoline. Your home could be heated by heating oil. Until there is an alternative resource that could run transportation AND be able to produce plastic efficiently, it's important to secure the resources. I believe this war has prolonged the inevitable, another depression. It'll happen.
I remember 10 years ago, the dollar was worth something. You could go to Europe and get more value for your good. The U.S. also had much cheaper goods as well.
Inflation increasing slight each year. A weak dollar. Decreased purchasing power, widening trade deficit. The writing is on the wall.
They'll be a crash, and you better be prepared for it. Likely won't happen for another 5-10 years, but it will.
A war with Iran could save us later on. It's sick, but war could bring great economic benefits.
On a moral level, a war with Iran is absolutely sick. I don't believe a nation should provoke another war with another country to steal their resources. But since Bush is taking us on a hell bound bath, might as well. The consequences of an economic collapse in the USA would be far worse.