The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)

some of the cannaboids evaporate before reaching the 325 degrees.... so should i heat with less but for longer untill the decarboxydation occurs?

here is the list i got from a website:

This details the boiling points for the many cannabinoids in the marijuana, which all contribute to the "high".

Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

Δ-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV)
Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant


Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties

β-myrcene
Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic

β-caryophyllene
Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial

d-limonene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic

linalool
Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator

pulegone
Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic

1,8-cineole (eucalyptol)
Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive

α-pinene
Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitorα-terpineol
Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial

terpineol-4-ol
Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic

p-cymene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor

borneol
Boiling point: 210*C / 410 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Δ-3-carene 0.004% 168 Antiinflammatory

Δ-3-carene
Boiling point: 168*C / 334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anti-inflammatory


Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties

apigenin
Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic

quercetin
Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic

cannflavin A
Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor

β-sitosterol
Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-α-reductase, inhibitor

i did some more reading and I figuered out that if you "cure" your plants long enough you don't need to heat up your plants. it takes several weeks but i think it's worth it and maybe heating the plants is one of the reasons why some haven't had success with this recipe. poor quality marijuana and alcohol concentrations may affect potency as well

I have heard the same thing before about letting it cure long enough to be able to skip the decarb process. Has anyone here tried this and if so how were your results.

I have one question, the first step is to cut the herb up very fine. Second is to bake at 325? So why did you vaporize all the cannibinoids that vaporize before 325? Seems like a waste of some nice nugs........

Someone I know has experimented several times with Master Wu's most recent recommendations, and has never been disappointed. :hippy: In an attempt to arrive at an even more concentrated tincture requiring far fewer drops than the original formula, this aquaintance has had outstanding success with the following procedure:

Ingredients:

• 1 oz. High Quality Herb Tops. No stems, shake, or other extraneous crap.
• 8 oz. Everclear (190 Proof)

Process Summary:

1. Using a small electric coffee grinder, chop herb tops to a fine, uniform mix.
2. Pre-heat oven to exactly 325 degrees.
3. Uniformly spread chopped herb in flat/shallow, oven-proof utensil, and bake at 325 degrees for exactly 5 minutes. Remove from oven IMMEDIATELY! Odor will be strong, and some steaming will be noticeable.
4. Combine baked herb with 8 oz. Everclear in tight fitting jar. Store unrefrigerated in the dark for several weeks. Even though you can proceed immediately to Step 5., a long soaking period appears to be very desirable.
5. Prepare a shallow water bath (+/- 2 in. deep) by heating a medium size pot of water.
6. Pour herb/Everclear mixture into a Pyrex measuring cup (2 cup min. size). Stay away from stove while doing this!
7. Place a thermometer into the Pyrex cup, and then place the cup into the water bath. Simmer and attempt to maintain the temperature of the Everclear mixture at +/- 170 degrees, which is just below the boiling point of alcohol. The objective is to slowly reduce the volume at a high enough temperature without rapidly boiling away the alcohol.
8. Stir the mixture frequently throughout the process while reducing the liquid volume to approximately 2 oz. This may take an hour or more, so be patient and enjoy. At some point, you should interrupt the process and temporarly decant the liquid portion into another measuring cup in order to do a rough volume check before resuming to the 2 oz. endpoint back in the original container.
9. After reducing the liquid volume to approximately 2 oz., pour all contents of the beaker into a metal coffee filter, and press the liquid out of the solid mass. Discard solid mass.
10. Perform a final filtration by pouring the previously filtered liquid thru a paper coffee filter.
11. Store tincture out of light in a colored glass dropper bottle or small plastic, opaque eyedrop bottle (an excellent portable delivery device). Your freezer is an excellent long-term storage location.

Dosage:

Each batch is slightly different, so it is best to self-titrate. A moderately strong dose would be 15 drops in a half can of beer or other drink, so I'm told. The effects are first noticeable in approximately 30 minutes, and may last 5-7 hours. The effects are very favorably enhanced throughout the experience by the moderate consumption of alcohol.

I've been thinking about attempting this by setting up the water bath in a slow cooker for an extended period of time. Anyone tried this? Would the alcohol vaporate too quickly?

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Originally Posted by seeit5

I've been thinking about attempting this by setting up the water bath in a slow cooker for an extended period of time. Anyone tried this? Would the alcohol vaporate too quickly?

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I've done it in a crock pot but not for an extended time. What I do is I have it in a small beaker with tin foil on the top. I push the foil down in the middle and have a digital meat thermometer in there. The evaporating alcohol seems to collect on the foil and drip back into the beaker and I lose very little alcohol in the process. There seems to be as much there as when I started. I then evaporate it all off in another larger container and smoke it instead of drinking it.

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Originally Posted by misslilly

I then evaporate it all off in another larger container and smoke it instead of drinking it.

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You're making hash oil, Misslilly, not tincture (which itself is nothing more than drinkable hash oil). Why not just make QWISO? Isopropyl alcohol is a hell of a lot cheaper than ethanol & (as far as I know) just as effective as a solvent. If you're going to evaporate all the solvent away, why use everclear?

There is TONS of info on making QWISO (quick wash isopropyl) hash oil on this & other forums.

It all started a few weeks ago when I first read about the GD, but first some background. I am in my twenties, weigh about 170, 5'10", exercise at least 4 days a week. I've been participating for the past six years and have been going through about 1/2oz a week ever since. I am not a chemistry student, took a bio/chem course once and sucked at every lab. I am a mediocre cook, not really my life's ambition. My friend is my assistant and has experience with keeping stable temperatures.

Back to the important story. Last week tried the GD with 3g of some decent 30's and about 1oz of Everclear. Decarboxlated at 200F for 22min. Once we started the water bath the alcohol began to burn off quickly, so we added about another 1oz of Everclear. After about 25 min (from when the alcohol/solid mixture first reached 170 degrees) we strained and garlic pressed the solids that were in a hosiery. We only had about 1/2 oz left, and we down it all. We felt it but was quick and sleepy. Our problems: (1) quality; (2) decarboxlyization time and temp; (3) temperature of alcohol mixture.

I believe it is important to note a variable that has been largely left out. The quality of the oven (most important) and range that are used in this process. An oven is a product that has low-grade, mid-grade, and high-grade levels. Amongst other factors that determine grade, the most important in this case is keeping a consistent temperature. We are trying to decarboxlyate various chemicals that have precise melting points with tools that could be very crude. In our trials we used an oven thermometer that was placed directly next to the aluminum foil tray with the substance thinly spread out. Our oven and range were very crude and found it difficult keeping a consistent temperature. Also, the temperature gauge on the oven did not match our thermometer, probably due to the sensor being located close to a wall or coil.

Our second trial: We came back the next day with a finer product and solutions to our previous problems. (1) We now had an 1/8 of some perfectly cured and dried product, around the triples level (2) decarboxlyate at 325 degrees for 5 minutes, wait for vapor and resist for a few seconds then take it out when we feel it is right (this is the general consensus I get for removing the tray). Take and place in 2oz. of alcohol in a 1 cup pyrex inside the water bath. The mixture cooked at 170 degrees for 24 minutes total. Now we used a cap to prevent the bottom of the pyrex from touching the bottom of the water pan, but we removed it halfway through for fear of the alcohol/solid mixture would tip over. Once we did that the alcohol boiled off very fast and we added another 1oz of alcohol. We removed and strained like before. This time we had 1 1/2 oz of GD, and after we placed it in a 1oz glass container it was the color of swamp water, brownish. Also, after a few minutes we were able to see settling of white particles.

Our experience: We each took 3mls in our beers on empty stomachs. We felt minor head effects and major body effects, after 30 min for about 2 hours. I took another 3ml about 3 hours after the first dose and had similar effects. One hour later I take another 3 mls and this time I barely feel anything after an hour or so. Upset I went back to the "old fashioned" way of ingesting.

Our problem: (1) When we decarboxlyated the product we didn't see a vapor until 5:02, we then took it out at about 5:07. This could be a potential problem since we were afraid to leave it in too long. Our thermometer read 310-320 for about the first 2 minutes then it rose to about 328 until we removed it. (2) Possibly the burning of alcohol and the bottom of the pyrex touching the bottom of the water bath pan could possibly be burning chemicals that we are trying to contain. (3) We removed the tray then dumped that in cold Everclear in the pyrex, we then put that in the water bath and it took a few minutes to rise to 170 and then we started the 20 minute timer.

I have read every post in this thread and have found these forums to be helpful in many other contexts. Please critique my process and offer me as many suggestions as you can. Also, I am specifically looking for a time that the tray is left in the oven after vapor begins.

Thank you for everything.

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Originally Posted by grumio

You're making hash oil, Misslilly, not tincture (which itself is nothing more than drinkable hash oil). Why not just make QWISO? Isopropyl alcohol is a hell of a lot cheaper than ethanol & (as far as I know) just as effective as a solvent. If you're going to evaporate all the solvent away, why use everclear?

There is TONS of info on making QWISO (quick wash isopropyl) hash oil on this & other forums.

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I like the consistency of the "oil" that I get. I can roll it up in a ball and pull of a piece off to smoke. Something I can't do with oil. I don't use much alcohol so it does not cost much. With a $16 dollar bottle I can make at least 4 batches. And I can do it indoors safely. I do want to try ISO or butane in the future though and have looked into it.

Hey sloppyj03, the one thing I can say is to put some foil loosely over your cup in the water bath and push the center down. That way when the alchol evaporates it will drip back into the cup and you should not have to add more. I don't really seem to lose any for the 20 min or so it is in there. And I use a digital meat thermomitor stuck through the foil to monitor the temp. I also like using a small crock pot for the water bath instead of doing it on the stove. It seems to keep it at a very consistent temp.

sloppy -

Putting something heavy - a pizza stone, a good-sized cast-iron skillet, etc - in your oven & pre-heating it adequately (20 min - half an hour) will help with temperature fluctuations in your oven.

As for time/temp in the oven, I've always done 325/5 minutes. My oven doesn't have glass on the door; I can't see inside, so I don't know anything about vapor rising.

As far as monitoring the temperature of the alcohol - don't bother. 151 is ~25% water, remember, but still, it cannot get hotter than ~170f - it evaporates at higher temperatures, just like water can't get hotter than 212f (yeah, at sea level, if it isn't under pressure, blah blah blah).

It's important to keep the residue that accumulates on the inside of the cooking vessel washed back into the alcohol. I use one of those little silicon "spoonulas."

The properties of your cooking vessel affect things, too. I usually use a 2-cup pyrex measuring cup, & the alc/bud mixture simmers. When I've done it in a 1-cup mason jar (thinner glass, taller, narrower, less surface area), the mixture boils much more vigorously.

is there any way i could get a pic of how the weed is arranged in the alluminum foil that gets put in the oven?

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There seems to be a lot of mystery surrounding the decarboxylation, which is the crucial step, so I've been researching. I found this patent application for thca > thc conversion and extraction: Extraction of pharmaceutically active components from plant materials - Patent 7344736

The applicant tested samples at different temperatures for different amounts of time then perfomed chemical analysis. There are 2 main factors they consider: the conversion of thca to thc, which is what you want, and breakdown of thc to cbn which you don't want.

They got good results with 221 F for 4 hours, 248 F for 1 hour, or 284 F for a half hour. Those all gave 99% conversion of thca to thc. 248 F for 1 hour had somewhat less breakdown of thc to cbn than the other two temps so it seems like the best.

If you extrapolate from the data 200 F for 20min is inadequate; you'd maybe convert half of what's available.

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is this true?
should i heat the weed at 248 for an hour instead of the 325 at 5 mins?

would the decarb process work just as well if i was using a quad instead of an eighter?

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...en-dragon.html

In this link, dragonrider talks about isomerizing a single dose of DG, my question is would you be able to isomerize the entire GD tincture before making it into a liquer, instead of doing it per serving?

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is there any way i could get a pic of how the weed is arranged in the alluminum foil that gets put in the oven?

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Next time I give the GD a try, I'll post pictures but it will be a week or so. I can tell you that I just grind it in a shitty tobacco store grinder. Take out big stems and seeds, and spread it evenly over the aluminum foil. Early posts said about 3mm, I just use a spoon and spend about 1 min making sure it is even.

As for the temperature to decarboxlyate at I haven't found the perfect setting yet, it takes a few tries unless you get lucky and find the sweet spot. I only see 200 and 325 on this post, but I am going to be experimenting with different temperatures and methods, so let me know how it goes.

Good Luck.

So im makin my first batch in about an hour and im still not positive about the whole alluminum foil thing. I'm planning on just using a pyrex dish and spreading it out evenly, is that gonna work?

Depends on what temp you use. 325 for 5 min it will make a big difference. All that extra mass that has to heat up with the weed will mean a longer time it needs to be in there.

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Originally Posted by misslilly

Depends on what temp you use. 325 for 5 min it will make a big difference. All that extra mass that has to heat up with the weed will mean a longer time it needs to be in there.

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Thank you very much for the info!

Wish me luck

Il post tmorow and let u guys know how it goes

Hey guys,

I'm getting an ounce some time next week, and I was thinking about trying my first foray in GD. I have a quick question about potency: Master Wu says that this recipe should convert one 1/8th of good bud into roughly 1 fluid ounce (30 ml, or "doses). He then says that 2 droppers was a spiritual dose, "as strong as any brownie".

How can this be? If there are 30 doses, and an 1/8th was the starting amount, that means there is roughly ~0.116 grams in each dose. Two droppers at that amount would be 1/4 of a gram. I've had firecrackers with nearly 4 times that amount, and I still wouldn't describe it as "spiritual". Where does this discrepancy come from? Is it just a more efficient extraction? I would assume that eating the plants (such as in firecrackers) would result in zero waste.

I'm confused :wtf: Any ideas?

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How can this be? If there are 30 doses, and an 1/8th was the starting amount, that means there is roughly ~0.116 grams in each dose. Two droppers at that amount would be 1/4 of a gram. I've had firecrackers with nearly 4 times that amount, and I still wouldn't describe it as "spiritual". Where does this discrepancy come from? Is it just a more efficient extraction? I would assume that eating the plants (such as in firecrackers) would result in zero waste.

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Eating the plant also requires your body to digest the plant material, the cracker, and the peanut butter. This takes a certain amount of time for stomach acids to break down the assorted food products, reduce it to chime and then be absorbed in your lower intestine.
There are a few things that can begin being absorbed in your stomach, among them; some drugs-particularly aspirin(don't have a clue about thc), fats, and alcohol. While some of the magic you want might be in the oil in the pb in your firecracker and might begin to be absorbed in your stomach it is also competing for digestive juices with all the other products that are part of the FC.
Thc in a high concentration bonded in an alcohol base solution and taken on an empty stomach will move into your system quicker, thus raising the amount in your system quicker. Compare it to sipping two beers over an hour will only slightly raise your blood alcohol level, but chug them in ten minutes and you would register legally drunk. Just my opinion, but I think I know that much physiology, although my A&P professor would probably say that I don't.

so i tried to make dragon masters liquer and i messed it up somehow

im gonna reattempt next week and just make a tincture

This might have been addressed but I couldn't find it. Anyway, Can you use only kief when making GD? I want to use 7 gms of high grade grand-daddy kief. How much 151 should I start with as I know you want the mixture to reduce by half roughly and have the potency for 1 dropper to be the dose.

I am thinking of starting with 8 oz 151 and reduce to 4 oz, while using 7 gms of the high grade kief. Comments???

Master Wu suggest smaller batches in the event of some type of unforseen problem arising. Your ratio is right on, but be on the conservative side and use 1/2 the amounts you are suggesting, you can always make more.
I've used this recipe about 10 times and the only time it failed was when I didn't dry the weed properly and didn't have a thermometer for the alcohol. Still got very high, but it was very expensive weed and a great disappointment when things didn't work out the way I expected.

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so i made some changes to the recipe and it turned out extremely well
i bought 2 oz of mids for $50 instead of using an 8er of dank
Heres what i did

picked out all the stems and seeds then put buds through a regular grinder
took ground up bud and spread it out in a think circular brownie pan
put pan in oven at 225 degrees for 15 mins
took pan out
put pan back in the oven for an hour at 250 degrees
took pan out and put weed in a coffee grinder
ground up weed in coffee grinder until its a very fine powder

heres where i really started mixing things up

I took an espresso machine that i bought on craigslist for $15
filled the water tank up with everclear
took the sieve where the coffee grounds go, and put the weed powder in there instead
turned the machine on, and let it filter all the way through
then I took the weed espresso and put it back in the water tank so that it would filter through again (I did this step several times)

Then take your weed espresso, and you are now holding the best batch of green dragon ever created

Someone else should try this and let me know if they get results as good as me.

has anyone tried baking food using green dragon instead of butter?

I think anything that needed butter or oil as part of the recipe would need butter or oil with or without the added special ingredient. There was a former poster on the thread, Dragonrider, who would make edibles with special butter then put an eyedropper worth of GD on them after they were done for a double whammy. Just a thought.

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I think anything that needed butter or oil as part of the recipe would need butter or oil with or without the added special ingredient. There was a former poster on the thread, Dragonrider, who would make edibles with special butter then put an eyedropper worth of GD on them after they were done for a double whammy. Just a thought.

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Thanks KY1956,

I'm still just wondering, since alcohol evaporates when being cooked in the oven wouldnt the alcohol evaporate and any baked good would be left with the thc that was in the dragon? (i would still use all the other required ingrediants in the recipe such as butter etc.)

So Im planning on making a batch of this GD, and want to make sure I get it right.
I want to know if there would be a problem if i used a much lower proof alcohol for it, like 80 proof?
Will it still work and not be as effective, or would it be pretty much a waste of bud? (wouldnt want that!)

So I'm planning on making a batch of this and want to make sure i get it right- is it a problem if i use a much lower proof alcohol? like 80 proof? WOuld it still work but you would have to use/ ingest more, or would it be a waste of bud? (wouldn't want that!!)

From what everyone says it will still work, just not as well as a higher proof alcohol.

A buddy's came out very amber with a tinge of green. Is this a problem? Seems to carry a good punch. Its very "hashy" tasting. It never got above 170 for sure as he baby sat it the entire time. If it sits for a bit, a layer of very dark "oil" looking stuff forms on the bottom and it needs shaking. Wondering if the tincture reached saturation and thc was "falling" out. He used 11 grams of ak and ended up with 3 ounces of "amber" dragon. appreciate everyone's help.

just wondering....what do you think would happen if you allowed all of the alcohol to evaporate from the finished gd solution? would the resulting dried powder or residue be potent enough to put in a pill and consume? what do you guys think? I'm thinking about doing it myself to see what happens.

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just wondering....what do you think would happen if you allowed all of the alcohol to evaporate from the finished gd solution? would the resulting dried powder or residue be potent enough to put in a pill and consume? what do you guys think? I'm thinking about doing it myself to see what happens.

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I do just that and smoke it, it can be quite good. Other than that it would take longer to get into your system and just guessing you would not get as high for that same reason. The alcohol helps to get it into your system a lot faster than ingesting it without it.

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A buddy's came out very amber with a tinge of green. Is this a problem? Seems to carry a good punch. Its very "hashy" tasting. It never got above 170 for sure as he baby sat it the entire time. If it sits for a bit, a layer of very dark "oil" looking stuff forms on the bottom and it needs shaking. Wondering if the tincture reached saturation and thc was "falling" out. He used 11 grams of ak and ended up with 3 ounces of "amber" dragon. appreciate everyone's help.

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My guess would be that it is veg matter that got through your filter and settles on the bottom. Just because I've seen that happen.

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just wondering....what do you think would happen if you allowed all of the alcohol to evaporate from the finished gd solution? would the resulting dried powder or residue be potent enough to put in a pill and consume? what do you guys think? I'm thinking about doing it myself to see what happens.

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I soaked a 1/2 of weed in 5oz. of 190 for 5 months. The weed was brown dirt bricked Mexican. Harsh on the throat, unimpressive high and too much gave you a headache along with extreme boredom.

I strained the weed out of the liquid and left in it a measuring cup for a few weeks in my garage with a paper towel held over the top to keep out bugs and dirt. I didn't weigh what was left but would guess 1.5 grams of a blackish/greenish goo. I broke it into pieces (12) about the size of a baby aspirin and smoked some as hash in a pipe, as hash blended with weed in a joint, and just eating one of the little balls like an aspirin on a empty stomach.

The quality of the buzz was quite nice and a lot stronger than I had anticipated. If I had the resources I would like to try this again with a 1/2 of the best weed I could get. If it could turn crap into gold, I imagine something high end would be incredible in a concentrated form.

i'll be trying this tonight and i'm pretty pumped. Made brownies for my first time the other night and they turned out great, so I'm pretty confident in my concocting abilities.

i'll be using an 1/8th of some good (hopefully White Rhino :jointsmile:) and pure ethanol from a chemistry lab. has anyone ever used pure ethanol?

once a verdict's reached, i'll hop back on tonight and share the results!

so if i just use some mids, it will be weaker, but does it still work. more droppers? how much should i use of the mids? just cant afford the dank!

i have used a water bath for some unrelated tasks for the reason that you can get consistent temp control. a huge part of that is the object in the bath shouldn't be touching the bottom of the pan. that leads to a direct heat transfer to the bottom of the beaker/jar.if you are using a super thick pan that might not be so drastic . With a thin one it could be very high. if on top of that you have plant material sinking to the bottom of the bath insulating it further.... idk just seems like that might be contributing to some of the inconsistent results?

Followed the recipe..but did compromise on the bake...could not stand 325...but seemed 200 too low. So I did 310 for 5 mins.

And used 4 oz of everclear and 1/4 oz super high end bud ($160 in the club)...and boiled down to 1 oz...one dropper full (I guess I got 30 or more droppers in the batch) gives a very nice high...comes on in about an hour. By 2 hours it is strong....and lasts 5-6 hours.

Did 3 hits the first time...man, that was a nice trip!

Anyways, I think I'm done with smoking...this is the way to go!

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Followed the recipe..but did compromise on the bake...could not stand 325...but seemed 200 too low. So I did 310 for 5 mins.

And used 4 oz of everclear and 1/4 oz super high end bud ($160 in the club)...and boiled down to 1 oz...one dropper full (I guess I got 30 or more droppers in the batch) gives a very nice high...comes on in about an hour. By 2 hours it is strong....and lasts 5-6 hours.

Did 3 hits the first time...man, that was a nice trip!

Anyways, I think I'm done with smoking...this is the way to go!

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Congratulations and welcome to the Dragon way. Be warned, I can't do the big doses too often or my tolerance goes through the roof. But like a 1/3 of a dropper supplemented by a few smoked hits an hour later does wonders.