This was a great, deatailed guide. I will definitaly give it a try sometime....
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This was a great, deatailed guide. I will definitaly give it a try sometime....
What about using a shot glass inside of the crock pot? I think that would be the easiest to get the contents out of. The only thing im worried about is the thich glass and transfer of heat. Hm...
That's why I like the idea of some sort of glass or ceramic that's MADE to hold hot things...like a coffee cup, soup bowl etc....;)
I use a ceramic coffee cup for smaller batches, or a 8 oz Pyrex measuring cup for larger ones...
How much BTHO (butane honey oil) would one use for the equivalent recipe for 12 capsules? I am in a rather fortunate situation where it is currently the cheapest THC source.
Im going to guess and go with 1gram.
Ha ha, I'll be in Florida at the back end of the year (Miami - south beach baby!), just drop off an envelope stuffed with cash at my hotel lol (I'll settle for a handful of caps instead though).Quote:
Originally Posted by UnTouched
Glad you . . ahem . . found the guide useful :jointsmile:
Well the fucking bastards at UPS decided they wanted to play soccer with my package all the way to my front door. Needless to say, my coconut oil arrived smashed to shit. I called the Vitamin Shoppe (who I guess amazon placed my order through), and they sent me out a replacement right away, I dont even have to send the old stuff back! Great service, IMHO. They told me I can use the stuff if I can, or just toss it out.
I may try to melt the oil and separate the glass with a strainer, so I can try to make some this weekend. I doubt my replacement will be here in time. Am I in for a world of hurt after I swallow some glass fragments that will probably make it through? :pimp:
I'm not so sure I'd try that. I think no matter how careful you are you could get microscopic glass fragments in your digestive system. That might be somewhat unpleasant to say the least, but yes, you probably would survive, and maybe even recover.
Folks, one of the many reasons I like to buy stuff in real stores and pay a little extra.
Boy do I agree with opie on that one. Is there a trader joes or something around? Health food store may have it. You CAN use olive oil (I used to) but that stuff stays gooey in the capsules and eventually leaks out. How about clarified butter?
Meh, quite frankly, Im a lazy stoner.. I would actually rather eat some glass fragments than attempt to make some clarified butter.
Besides, Ive got a plan.. :thumbsup: The oil was pretty solidified on what was left of the jar when I opened the box, and all the glass was pretty much stuck to the outside of this cylinder. In theory, I should be able to cut away the outside layer, and scoop out some of the middle. Then I can melt that down and filter it for glass. Im sure ive swallowed worse than whatever makes it through.. :smokin:
Also, trader joes is a little drive for me, and I couldnt find the stuff last time I was there. I suppose I could just wait... :wtf:
Hey I have a question, too many pages, dunno if it's been answered but I have a kitchen stove. So you suggest I put my dial on "low" for 2 hours? I'm using bud. The temp and the setting of my heat is the only thing i'm not sure about right now.
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Originally Posted by WhiteWindica
I got my oil at Kroger in the Organic section. Try there if u have one.
Great thread to everyone involved! Special thanks to Flame!
I read pages 1 - 9 then skipped to 15 so forgive me if somebody already went over this.
I have two questions:
1. Has anybody experimented with using the left overs from a vaporizer? Afaik people successfully use this leftover in a brownie or even rolled in a joint.
2. Is there a significant difference in grinding herb to a powder using a coffee grinder as opposed to putting it through the traditional herb grinder that you twist twist by hand? I could see where a 'fine' powder can be more effective but is it essential for maximum results?
Keep up the great work guys.
Someone has tried with vaporizer left overs. If I remember correctly it didn't work but I could be wrong.
For the past couple months I've been grinding my bud with a traditional herb grinder and then chopping it with a knife to get it as fine as I could. I recently went out and bought a coffee grinder and I think it made a huge difference. My normal batches I need 3 caps for a full stone. The batch using the coffee grinder 2 caps had me wandering around town on an adventure straight out of the movies. Three had me glued to my chair, and was wayyyyyy strong, a little too strong at that. I used the same bag of bud for both batches.
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Originally Posted by simplesmok
And this folks, is why I love the intraweb! Thanks dude. I guess I will go out and buy one. I always got a feeling I would "lose" my herb to the insides of the grinder ha ha ha. Kind of silly but I just didn't like all noise etc but I guess its pretty clear, this is the way to go.
Thanks. I wonder, what about vaporizing herb ground in a coffee grinder.. hmm...
I just use my regular strainer and get very nicely ground herb as long as the bud is nice and dry when i "strain" it.
EXCELLENT! :thumbsup: This is a dream come true. I always knew this would be a great idea and was sure someone had done it before. I just didn't realize it was something I could do at home myself. I just envisioned some complicated laboratory and rubber gloves and shit. hahaha
If it hasn't been mentioned, I'd like to add that if you're using plain grass, a coffee grinder will grind it into a super fine powder super fast.
:smokin:
Im so trying this, I agree eating thc is way more worth your money. Its not like just being stoned, Its like being thrown in to a tornado of rollercoasters. Its a a "trip" plain and simple.
Sometimes.
Hello there, everyone. First, thank you to Flameon and Weedhound for your continued assistance with this recipe!
Second, I have a few questions, mainly about the frothing. Is this a necessary part of the process? If I am not seeing any frothing, I assume that I need to increase the temp - is that assumption correct?
We made a batch yesterday, which brought on a slight body-stone, but not much else. We didn't know it was supposed to froth, and we didn't see any of that. We also didn't grind it as finely, but it wasn't a huge change today with the coffee grinder.
So we are trying again today, with about 1.5 g's of pretty high-grade buds, ground up with a coffee grinder, and cooked in a crockpot. We are using a coffee cup and coconut oil, about 3-3.5 tsp. Right now, we have been cooking it for about an hour and a half, and still have not seen any froth.
Is there anything that we could be doing entirely wrong? Is froth important?
Again, thanks for this recipe and your continued help with it! :D
I don't know about froth.....but what are your temps? Usually i've found that if the pills take FOREVER to kick in and are more of a body stone that hangs on for HOURS plus a lack of potency then usually I didn't get enough heat to the mixture.
PS....For me......signs of overheating: Kicks in fast but high doesn't last, lack of potency, wears off very quickly.
Have you ever had froth, Weedhound? I hadn't seen anything about it in the thread that you started, so I was also wondering about that.
Right now, it is at 266, but that is the highest that it has gotten yet. It has been sitting around 225-240 for most of the time, which is about two hours now.
Are you cooking alot or just a gram or so? If you have extra maybe scoop a touch out and try it (AFTER it cools) if you want to let the rest cook longer. That will give you a test one. :D
In talking with Opie I'm leaning more towards temps between 225-275 but I agree with Flame that it's an individual thing for most people.
Almost forgot.....sometimes a little froth at higher temps but not always and I myself don't consider froth something important to the recipe. ;)
We are only cooking about a two grams right now. It is pretty much liquid, with hardly any residue at the bottom (at least that we can feel when we sitr it). It's got a nice dark green color right now, pretty inky looking, and when we checked the temp it was at 244. We turned it up to high, from low (only two settings), and are planning on letting it sit for another forty minutes or so.
My boyfriend has a question that he wants me to ask you. We smoke about 3.5-4 grams a day between the two of us, throughout the whole day about evenly spread out. He was wondering, in comparison to your average use, how much you think we should feel from an average dose.
On that note, we are using single '0' capsules, so we realize that we need to increase the dosage due to the size difference. We tried three last night and then four this morning (of the first batch, obviously). We are pretty sure no less then three will be required.
Thats about how much I was using before going to the capsules (eating in cookies.) I'd go for 2-3 of the 00 sized capsules but I couldn't say of the straight 0 size.
PS...don't drive! :wtf: :)
You saying its mostly liquid...hmm.....should be more along a 50/50 split....otherwise you'll need more caps to make up for the extra oil.
Heh, I hope they turn out that good... :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
He has another question...I hope its not too many! :D
Since they take about an hour and a half to kick in, we have been smoking 2-3 bowls right after taking them. Do you think we should stop doing that to notice their effectiveness? For both of us, our high has usually worn off an hour or two later anyway, so we didn't know how much it would matter.
Thanks for all your help!! :)
I'm not really sure what to tell you about that. I honestly have never had a problem telling between an "eating" high and a "smoking" high. To me they are pretty different so I smoke while waiting for the high to kick in but I'm not sure I would if you are trying to test the effectiveness of the capsules. Otherwise.....heck yeah! That's what its for right?
Also....once the pills kick into effect....I tend to simply forget to take a toke or two because I'm already where I want to be so I end up not smoking after awhile anyway. Does that make sense? :stoned:
Yeah - neither of us have eaten it before, so we aren't exactly sure what to expect when it does work right. We are thinking this time we won't smoke before, but we don't know if we should test them tonight.... we've got 4.5-5.5 hours till bed. We want to so badly, but *I* don't know if its worth it. !!! :stoned:
Lol, they are ALWAYS worth it. ;) Once you get your recipe down you'll start saving alot in the amount of ganja you use. :thumbsup: (this has been an unexpected side effect that I LOVE.) I say pop a few and check out a funny movie....they're TOTALLY hilarious when stoned.
Heh, alright. :thumbsup: I'll update with results...probably tomorrow morning though...lol.
And - thanks again!:)
Should we add more weed and just cook it for longer? Will that hurt what we have done already?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
We just looked at it more closely, and it has some paste at the bottom, and a good amount of oil at the top. We took it out of the crockpot for now. Advice?
If you've done two hours at the correct temp you probably have it cooked pretty well. I'd try them as is....you may need more capsules to accomplish the same thing.
You COULD add more weed....but then I'd say you should cook for another two hours which would be a total of four.
I'd go for them as is. :jointsmile:
We had way too much liquid, and the boyfriend thought it would be hard to get it to stay in the pills, especially since we had problems with them leaking yesterday (any ideas about that?). So we added another .5 g, and are cooking it for two more hours. We will fill them tonight and try them out tomorrow morning, is what it's looking like.
It's still only about 50/50 oil/weed now, but I'm guessing (hoping) the extra time simmering will help extract a bit more...here goes nothing! (Again!) :) :D
I had about 50 of those "here goes nothings" but it's most likely a better idea. There's a pic in my thread that shows a bowl of the stuff cooked pretty well. The weed is saturated and with a few extra pockets of oil....that's plenty imo.
What kind of oil are you using?
> Hi All,
>
> I have been following this thread and its great. I
> usually make a month's worth of capsules at a time so
> I work with two ounces at a time. My last batch which
> turned out to be my most potent was made with some
> inexpensive Sweet Tooth. It does make a difference in
> how fine of a powder you grind it into I use a clean
> make up brush to get every last bit out of the coffee
> grinder. I prefer to use olive oil to coconut oil
> because when you make a larger batch of capsules it
> tends to solidify before you are done making it more
> difficult to work with. I use my oven as a heat source
> preheated to between 250-275F. I mix the powder into
> an mason jar and add oil about 7 tablespoons for the
> two ounces. You want all the powder to be fully
> saturated so its a paste that's on the liquid side.
> Following Flameon's advice about longer cooking times
> I baked this latest batch for two hours and then
> allowed the jar to sit and cool in the oven so that
> probably made the cooking time to somewhere between 2
> 1/2-3 hours. I use a capsule filling machine that I
> bought on amazon and use 00 capsules. My previous
> attempts took 2-3 capsules to be effective with this
> batch one is enough that added cooking time really
> made a difference.
>
> Someone in the thread mentioned something about boiling in oil. Bad
> idea. Most oils don't boil until they reach very high
> temps olive oil as an example doesn't boil until it
> reaches 575F flash point is only 25 degrees hotter not
> to mention that its starts smoking at close to 400
> which is also too hot you would need to monitor the temp
> constantly.
>
> Someone else commented that the oil mixture does not
> get to the oven temperature when you use it instead of
> a crock pot it does and will if you cook it long
> enough.
>
> I store mine in the freezer it would probably be fine
> in the fridge or at room temperature for a day
> or two but since this is a month's worth I feel it is
> safer to keep in the freezer.
Sharon
Well, this topic is on fire. You may remember me from the middle of this thread. I wanted to thank you for letting me share your recipe.
You can find it at Welcome to Expand Reality under "Preparation Teks"