Bush calls for gay marriage ban

Your saying that a Christian that refuses to condone homosexuality is discriminating birdgirl? OH..And to the op calling people names that don't live the lifestyle of being brought up by lesbians..you call people different from you dumb and assholes..what are you for thinking its okay for your beliefs but not allowing others theirs?

Nope, I tend to think Christians are entitled to their opinions. I mean legal discrimination or job discrimination. Which still happens all the time.

You're up late over there in the next time zone! Actually, you may still be in this Central zone, depending on where in Alabama you are. I can't remember where the time changes.

I'll probably go to sleep when daylight hits..insomnia can be a blessing and a curse...especially after traveling. So you and your sister are coming to the Gulf? Hope she is maintaining and improving.

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Originally Posted by Shelbay

I'll probably go to sleep when daylight hits..insomnia can be a blessing and a curse...especially after traveling. So you and your sister are coming to the Gulf? Hope she is maintaining and improving.

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I just looked at a time zone map and learned that the time changes between Alabama and Georgia. So you're in the same time zone we are.

Yep, looks like the whole family is coming down there, and we'll see how my sister feels about making the trip as the time draws nearer. I hope she'll be up to it. I grew up spending summers on the Mississippi gulf coast with my Louisiana grandparents, who had a summer place at Gulfport, but there's no going to Gulfport right now because it's still such a mess. So we were going to go to Gulf Shores, which I love, too. Then two other couples got involved in the plan this past weekend and now it looks like it's going to be Destin. We found a good deal on a condo there. Anywhere along the Gulf is fine with me as long as I can see the ocean. My son informed me today that he wants to bring his girlfriend along and asked me if they could share a room, and so I'm feeling awkward about that. The answer is going to be that she's welcome to come but will need to stay in her own room, but he doesn't yet know that.

Thanks for the kind words about my sister. I wish the outlook were better, but I'm afraid it's not. I'm up late because she's due for another pain shot in another half hour. Once that's done, I'll hit the sack.

I think I am going to try reading..we own a condo with a prime view of the Gulf,I think being in an atmosphere like this can be healing in itself..thats why I wondered if your sister had the energy for a trip..anyway I hope she has a restful night and free of some of her pain..you try and rest also..she can feel your energy..you know that right..help her by keeping you healthy.Night birdgirl...oh and I said that about healing because I went into remission after staying 9 months at OG...one more thing..some people are confused about Alabamas time zone because there is one part of the Delta region that is eastern time..yes Alabama is central time..but I have different time zones i set for certain emails..anyway..hope you have a good night.:)

It would be healing for her, I'm sure. I hope she'll feel like coming along. The ocean is just magical, isn't it?

Bless your heart, so you had cancer, too? Or something else that went into remission? Don't worry about answering that; I shouldn't have asked such a personal question. I'm glad it went into remission, whatever it was.

You have a good night, too, sweetie! Take care, and I'm sure I'll talk to you again soon, Shelb. Hope the reading will help you get off to sleep.

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

My longest-term best friend is a gay man. We have been friends and playmates since we were literally toddlers, and these days we work at the same company. So I tend to take discrimination against gays in general, and against him and his partner specifically, very personally because it's like someone discriminating against my brother.

I'm very much of the live-and-let-live philosophy. I think that gays and lesbians ought to be afforded exactly the same rights that we straight people have. If we can marry, then they ought to be able to do so, too. To me, it's that simple.

Talk to a loved one who's gay for 5 minutes, and you learn real quickly that they're not gay by choice. Who in the world would choose to be that way? And they can't choose not to be gay any more than any of us straight folks could suddenly choose to stop being heterosexual and switch to the other team. I'm convinced that homosexuality is established either in utero or within the first 18 - 24 months of life before anyone has any control over it. I wish more people could be persuaded of this so they'd stop declaring it as a "wrong" or "sinful" lifestyle choice. IMO, it's neither wrong. Nor sinful. Nor is it a choice.

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Hey, Birdgirl, again, you have a knack for making the issue human and personal. It makes you wonder how many people have ice water in their veins... and heads.

An amendment to ban gay marraige is like an amendment to ban photosynthesis (but the environment is a whole 'nother matter).... Peace

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Originally Posted by wadejason

i havent really heard anyone say that they know anyone gay or gay themselves. trying to come from someone that knows, ive been raised by lesbians so this is a touchy subject with me. i cant stand the uptight assholes that dont believe in gay marriage. first of all some states allow "civil union" which doesnt mean shit. my mom and her "gf" cant do their taxes together, and everything they do finacially they have to do seperate from one another because their "marriage" isnt legal.

my question is who the hell cares if two chicks get married. or hell if two guys get married! omg! get over it people. bush is an idiot and does what daddy tells him. i mean have you heard his speeches? everything is a joke and the monkey says um and uh every 4 words. this admendment attempt is just pissing people off. the fact of the matter is bush is finally losing support on his mission to kill camels so he decided he'd do something he promised in 2004 to the bible thumpers (the idiots that got him into office) that he'd defeat those evil gay people.

being raised by gay people ive learned to see how dumb people are. the prejustice i see is radical. people need to grow up and if you see two guys kissing in public, fucking look away if you dont like it! people dont like it when you stare at them anyways.

oh and what about god? first of all bush seems to think adding god to everything will help. and it wont so stop it. and two the bible says nothing to proclaim homosexuality is bad. just chill out and accept it.

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OMG - and have you been deprogrammed yet? ;) and you know that the republicans have already captured your family's vote in the Diebold system, right? :D

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

That would be mighty funny and also tragic if it were a literal interpretation of marriage! We'd have an awful lot more married folks out there than we do now. And an awful lot more with whole long lists of husbands and wives. Imagine seeing an old flame at the mall when you were there with your family. "Oh yeah, that was my sixth husband. We were married after a few too many cocktails one night. Hey, Six!"

I thought it was the intercourse that consummated, or officially began, a Christian marriage. And Psycho4Bud's right. It's seven years of living together that consitutes a common-law arrangement and officially opens the season for future palimony lawsuits.

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Actually the seven year common-law arrangement is not applicable in all states. Some states as NJ do not have common law marriage.

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Originally Posted by gjpop2000

It's not exactly moral to me, but I don't have anything against gay marriage; to each his own. Bush is an asshole either way.

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I'll second that to the letter.

Spoken like a true badass Towlie would be proud of ^_^