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Originally Posted by Hempsouth
You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.
Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.
Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.
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Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge
Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.
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You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.
I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:
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I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.
Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:If ya like i might be able to look for one or two for you, if ya want Rusty. She uses them to cover plants she starts, sorta like a humidity dome as she covers it, works great.
I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.
Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:
Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta:
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Originally Posted by busybee
:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:D:jointsmile:
ROTFLMAO, thats funny man:thumbsup:. I have a few botany books. I needed them for a bonsai book, i had a tough time getting through and haven't finished yet. Growing MJ just has taken over since last year. My oldest i thought had died, because i put it out and fried the thing, but saw new growth today. I really need to re pot it and cut it back a bunch, lol. Oh well, it will pull through.
Thanks for stopping in man:rasta:
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Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.
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Originally Posted by irydyum
Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.
Well i freaking thought so. Thanks man, the 24/0 really never made any sense, but was a lazy thing i guess. Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.
Thanks Irydyum:rasta:
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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa
Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.
Thanks Irydyum:rasta:
A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)
Yeah Rusty i thought it could hermy, but im dealing with a strain im unsure of. To bad i didn't know the strain, but came from good genetics. Thats why i want to use the pollen on something i can identify, like the NL#5, or the Edna as it would be the best growing at the time. Its getting great branch growth and bushing out. But its the way i trimmed it, by keeping buds that was on the outer part of the plant. Something i will remember next re veg.
Im really hoping to get the NL growing out a bit better. Its healthy, but growing straight up, thats why i thought if i can pull out the branches with rubber bands, the inner growth might fill itself in. This is true with the Skunk x NL too.
I will be able to get some pics up today of new growth. Had a bit of twisted leaf growth on the Edna and was thinking i gave a bit much ferts. Its not real bad, just 3 leaves i think. Its been really hot here too and have same issue with a smaller one, but looks better since iv put it in the ground. Also, its grown more then any of the others in the ''family'' plants, or unknown strains.
Im on 12/12 since last night.
Thanks Rusty:rasta:
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I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.
Verry much succes this year.
Blowsterke
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I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.
Well Blowstrerke, you should post them, id like to see them. Im really hoping my NL#5 gets big, its one of the finest smoke iv ever had, i just luv the taste and doesnt put me to sleep right away. But helps me sleep when i want too.
Very much success this year Blowsterke, to you too:hippy:
I didn't get a chance to get pics today, just to damn hot. But i did have a question for someone. How long will my pollen last in the fridge, because its going to be around August before i could use it i think. Of course this is a guess, but at least to or around that time. Any one know, cuz there is no point taking it if its not going to last that long?
Thanks, muchly:D
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Well so it was about to rain and i took the opportunity to take a few pic's right before it started. It was coming down a bit, but not enough for me to miss out on what they look like just before a good soaking. They look great, right before it rains.
In order they go
Edna, looking very nice, but a couple twisted leaves.
NL, which is looking better everyday.
Skunk 1 x NL 5, needs to get bigger, but is behind the other two.
WiTarHar, this was crossed with great genetics including Lowryder 2 for outdoor fast growing. I hope to either take clones, or give a bit of pollen too. It was breed in Holland, so keeping it is very important to me. Iv got one up and a friend has one up, so lets hope they can get together and do their thang;)
5 gal plant, which would be the biggest of the ''family''. Was going to SOG it, but not sure now that the other bigger one got chopped:wtf:
Next post is ''family'' members that i have put in place of the chopped ones with balls.
Lets hope they do well, because i only have one i could replace them with if they get nuts. Not sure of the 2 way out in the woods as P didn't show up to feed them. I guess im glad it rained as the ferts can sink better into the ground and they will grow a couple inches. They always do when i get a good over night soaking:thumbsup:
Enjoy:rasta:
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So here are a couple pic's of the ''family'', one has a bit of fert burn one her, but with good new growth coming in at the top.
Also i took a pic of the 5gal plant, only a bit closer. Its got ok branch growth, but not as good as id like. So i may fim a branch or two. I have noticed a reddish color at the top of this plant, which as did a few other ''family'' plants. If it gets really big, il cut the bottom off and plant the pot in the ground, lets just hope it does:jointsmile:I would need some help with this tho.:wtf:
So this would be all of them, but one i have in a coffee container, cuz i ran outta pots, lol. Im thinking of just letting it grow in it all year. It would be to stressful i think to dig it out as the container is an odd shape, but this bottom could be cut off as well. This plant was put into a much to big of container as it should of been put in one that roots would fill the pot. Its now just really starting to grow, so i guess the roots are filling up in there. I will get a pic of this one in the afternoon, damn camera wouldn't turn on for me to get one.
Peace:weedpoke::rasta: