Can you prove that the "Greatest Country on Earth" was brutally, and by any scale of measurement, quite successfully attacked by a group of people who operate mainly out of caves.?
No.
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Can you prove that the "Greatest Country on Earth" was brutally, and by any scale of measurement, quite successfully attacked by a group of people who operate mainly out of caves.?
No.
This I think is the main problem in this debate. Both sides just revert to throwing random stones and claiming that absolute poof is the only thing that will convince them otherwise.
Personally I'm willing to dismiss some pieces of evidence as being inconclusive. Take for example the claim that squibs can be seen exploding out the sides of the towers as they fell. If you examine the video evidence this is undeniable. However I think this can possibly be explained by the fact that the towers were actively falling at the time, and the kinds of pressure tearing through the structure could have caused all kinds of effects. This is an admittedly weak explanation, but in an open debate I would be willing to let it go.
The problem is that people who say they believe the official theory are unwilling to bend on any of the evidence. They speak with the conviction of someone who was actually there, but not just in some bystander capacity but from the kind of vantage point that only superman could achieve.
I think I get it though. It's fucking scary. I don't want to believe that our government lied to and betrayed us to get us into a war, but that seems to be the most plausible answer.
It's not like this type of thing hasn't happened in the past. Vietnam was based on a lie and its public knowledge today. Research the bay of Ton kin incident and then search for other false flag operations. Human beings have been deceiving other human beings for their own gain for thousands of years, it's simple logic that as our society becomes ever more complex so too do our deceptions.
Thanks Eso. That is what I have been saying. I want to see evidence that proves there was no conspiracy. So far the simple questions I have are yet to be answered. The lack of any plane recovery at the pentagon with the complete body recovery is just too hard to swallow. If no logical explanation can be given then only the illogical remains.
It is frightening to accept the possibility that a conspiracy existed but it is always very important to question authority. They have frequently distorted the truth in the past.
Can you prove that the "Greatest Country on Earth" was brutally, and by any scale of measurement, quite successfully attacked by a group of people who operate mainly out of caves.?>>>>>>
I can prove what I saw with my own two eyes! Most conspiracy theroist think Bush/Cheny were behind this, it would be impossible to pull off a stunt like this in less then 8 months and thats about how long Bush was in office when these attacks occured. The problem with conspiracy junkies is they are more then willing to excuse the obvious without being able to explain their own theory. Apparently this "conspiracy" has continued with the new president otherwise the whole Bin Laden thing was a waste of time and money.
Where are all the Jew's who didn't go to work that day or fly on those planes? Nobody told me about any of this, I'm glad I wasn't traveling that day.
Bush and cheny? shit you can go back to Kennedy and even further to find out what its always been about.
I can prove what I seen with my two eyes also...3 buildings falling at free fall speed...The bottom floors giving out at the same time as the top. Before the collapse portions even made it down to touch them...One of those buildings wasnt even hit by a plane. Wasnt even mentioned in THE INVESTIGATION....WELL FUCK ME SIDEWAYS WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING 7........A WHOLE FUCKING BUILDING....FALLING THAT SCARED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS TO DEATH AND NOT A PEEP OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT....A WHOLE BUILDING A WHOLE BUILDING A WHOLE BUILDING....DONALD RUMPSFELD ON VIDEO SAYING HES NEVER AWARE IT EXISTED "While speaking at town hall meetings"
<Bush and Cheny LULZ.... Hey how do you know how long it takes to plan a demo operation? Hitler staged his own burning of his own parliment building...Im sure there were loyalists just like you back in the 40's saying the same thing...and history repeats itself over and over cause people forget.
I can also prove its chemicaly impossible to have Molten pools of liquid metal still buring 27 days after the collapse from "jet fuel" and/or office paper....lol.
Another 911 will repeat after ten years?
Quote, "'Lucky' Larry's Chicago's Sears/Willis Tower Tenants are Moving out and it has an Asbestos Problem
On June 10, 2011, Chicago??s Northwest Community Hospital and the U.S. Army Reserve will perform an emergency exercise called ??Red Dragon? to prepare for any future event involving mass death.
Security at Willis is provided by Kroll's, the same outfit that provided 'security' to the WTC.
An Israeli Company provides 'security' to Chicago's O'Hare Airport.
And with MOSSAD agent Rahm Emanuel as Mayor of Chicago, the table is set for mass murder.
Is the 'Windy City' about to get REAL Windy?
Since last year a number of emergency drills and exercises have taken place in and around the city of Chicago. To find out more about these drills and exercises, here are some articles you should read:
June 2010 ?? Emergency drills may close Chicago-area roads
June 2010 ?? Armageddon Simulated in Chicago, which involved a 'simulated' airplane crash.
May 2011 ?? Third tallest building in Chicago enhances security, conducts fire evacuation drills
On June 10, 2011, Chicago??s Northwest Community Hospital and the U.S. Army Reserve will perform an emergency exercise called ??Red Dragon? to prepare for any future event involving mass death.
Get Out While You Still Can
Thoma Bravo moves out of Willis Tower
Thoma Bravo is becoming the second private equity firm in the past year to move out of Willis Tower, formerly known as Sears Tower, and into a new office building at 300N. LaSalle. About a year ago GTCR Golder Rauner LLC also left Willis for 300 N. LaSalle.
He also cited other factors: inconvenient security for visitors; tourists now allowed in what had been the business lobbies; and ??poor maintenance? of many common areas.
Ernst & Young to leave Sears Tower
Willis Tower is owned by a group that includes, surprise, surprise 'Lucky' Larry Silverstein.
Will 'Lucky' Larry remove the Willis Tower's asbestos the same way he did at the WTC?
APFN - Warning: False Flag attack planned for Sears Tower
Security at Willis is provided by Kroll's, the same outfit that provided 'security' to the WTC.
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Dean Witter managed security at the WTC. IN fact the head of security for Dean Witter died helping save the lives of hundreds of people. The Discovery channel has a very good documentary on his life.
I am just waiting for an explanation to a few troubling questions so I can move on. If people can't explain how the plane that hit the pentagon burned so completely that no parts could be recovered but the bodies inside were all recovered we still have pointedly unanswered questions. Why did the personell interviewed at the pentagon immdiately after the event smell cordite? Why did bldg 7 collapse? Why did all the buildings collapse like a demolition when the demolition experts said they should have toppled like trees? People seem to be dismissing the entire issue without addressing obvious questions that came up directly after the event. Now you are arguing about information that was discovered months and years later. Lets see people have answers to the simple questions from the initial event or maybe the more difficult ones that came up later.
The government has admitted that they released a virus from a ship in San Francisco Bay to see how many people got ill. Many got ill and some even died. The government did not admit they did this until the evidence was leaked out about 40 years later. The government gave LSD to people without letting them know. At least one person comitted suicide as a result. The government also admitted to this about 40 years later and paid the family a settlement. There are many more examples of government conspiracies that have come to light after the fact. Some conspiracies came to light prematurely like the pentagon papers exposing the government conspiracy to lie about VietNam while we were still at war. The inconvenient exposure of this information caused people to rethink their entire stand on the war.
I hope 911 was not a case of history repeating itself in the sense of past poor behavior.
Airplane debris including Flight 77's black boxes,[101] the nose cone, landing gear,[102] an airplane tire,[103] and an intact cockpit seat[104] were observed at the crash site. The remains of passengers from Flight 77 were found at the Pentagon crash site and their identities confirmed by DNA analysis.[105] Many eyewitnesses saw the plane strike the Pentagon. Further, Flight 77 passengers made phone calls reporting that their airplane had been hijacked. For example, passenger Renee May called her mother to tell her that the plane had been hijacked and that the passengers had been herded to the back of the plane. Another passenger named Barbara Olson called her husband (U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson) and said that the flight had been hijacked, and that the hijackers had knives and box cutters.[4][95][106]