5*White Widow feminized. Coco.

Ye I don't know tbh.

What I do know is that my plant #4 from seed always raced ahead and in its stretch period insanelly did so. Even if it was 4 inches from the 600W it raced 1½-2 inches a day.
They all gre a lot during this period but every other day plant 4 grew one inch more than the others so 10 days into the stretch period it was 10-12 inches taller than the next one and got slammed with a serious emergency break. Broke it's spine 3 times now hehe. It still grows hard but has slowed down a bit and the Z shape it is growing in also helped to keep height down.

As for the clones it's interesting. I will surelly keep a close eye on it when I do my next grow from clones with the same genetics.
A clones birth age is the age of its mother so in my case my clones started as 28 days old from seed. The plants I took the clones from were growing hard then but it was a few days before the stretch period started for real so in theory the clones should start growing hard as soon as they rooted. Can't say that they have so that sugests that your theory stands.
This might cause me to reconcider alltogether actually.
My plan was to more or less discard plant 4 clones even though that plant shows excellent signs of becoming a top yeilder on the basis of it being too unmanagable o grow indoors. I am leaning to plant 5 clones for mothers and I still do as it is a beautiful plant with a LOT of flowering and close between nodes. Plant 4 (the stretchy one) was fastest to start flowering and is building on hard though and from what we seem to have discovered here just might be in the race still now then.

Nice discussion by the way, thanks for picking up on it and coming with very valuable input.

Puffzter

Thanks for allowing the discussion in your thread, it cleared a lot more up and understandable for me!

OMG I love those pix!!! Pretty neat thread! :jointsmile:

Let me just start with a saying that I really love getting mails like this:


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So keep posting, I really appreciate that people take an interest and I am very happy to answere any questions or discussing whatever about my humble grow.


Pain:
Thanks again for the positive you spread around you in mine and other peoples threads, really glad to read any post from you. <3

I am working very hard with my (just 5) plants so those bubblers would have been a good addition to ease the workload but now it s like it is and I will stay on top of it all and make the best of it until I find another solution. My plants have become my babies something I would never had thought when I stumbeled into a MJ growing forum in the beginning of june never having had a single thought about growing anything but it really cought my interest causing me to start reading kilometers of text (literally) and watching all kinds of movies etc about growing before finally feeling ready to take the step into starting up this on my own creating a very rewarding (in so many ways) hobby for myself.
That people actually are interested enough to follow what I do is flattering to say the least.
That it is going so well is even more surprising. I am just waiting for a major screw up here but I am trying to make decissions based on what I have learned from all you guys.

I also have a bit of an interest in writing causing me to certainly type for hours a day, here being just a fraction of that, and might make my own thread a bit hard to follow out of text mass alone. Sorry for that if so. :P
English is not my mother tongue as well so I surelly can understand that it might be a bit contra productive to write this much all the time but I just can't help myself hehe.

Cheers

Puffzter

Puffz, it's always a pleasure to read your log, my friend! I always appreciate the pictures, but your writing is always top notch. I could not tell English was not your native language until you had revealed same. Don't ever feel the need to apologize for getting long winded - I love reading and writing; sometimes I'll become lazy and want to simply ogle pictures, but the descriptive nature of words oftentimes paints a more detailed picture than a picture itself.

I'm glad to see your grow going so well. Glad to see your efforts in training your stretchy WW are working. It amazes me how resilient and vibrant mj plants are! I'm sorry to hear of your bubblers, but know you will have some on order and receive them soon.

Take good care out there, my friend! Have a great weekend!

Thanks Jake.

I am not so much training them as going Mike Tyson on their asses but they truly seem resillient even though they are feminized from seeds they are showing a remarkable strength in genetics and just wont go crossdressers no matter what I do to them it seems.

Right now they are flowering fully and are fattening up. Sugar is starting to form on all plants and plant 3 has a top on one of the sidebranches that is truly beautiful. Not spectacular in any way but so perfectly formed and getting more and more frosty by the hour almost.
I sit with a book in my growroom with the tent fully open and read an hour now and then occasionally watching these increadible plants that are growing in my walk in closet to perfection. They truly have become more to me than I thought when deciding to have a go at this.
Almost make me sad when I think about the fact that ultimatelly I will be their executioner.

I still havent decided on which one of them is gonna be the mother for the future grows of WW. All of them have clones under 24/0 of which one or two will become a future mom but I still can't decide. All 5 are showing vigor and terrific flower production but which one is best?
Will I have to grow the clones until I have test smoked the weed from all 5 plants and know everything about their individual yeild and quality?
I don't know.
I hope it wont come to that as it will cause me to have 8 huge plants in my clone area for quite some time but I just can't decide yet. How do one decide which one of ones babies are really the favourite anyway?
When the colas start to fatten up proper I hope I can come to a decission and gather the resolve needed to kill off the non choosen clones. ;)

At the same time as all this is going on my Hindu Kushes are almost ready to put in 12/12 to make them show sex so I can get a mother of that strain as well. I only have 2 plants and don't know sex so hopefully one is female and with decent genetics so it can mother some indica for me as well.
Time will tell.
Gonna try to shoot a few pics now with my shitty crap camera. If I get something decent I'll natrually post asap.

Peace.

Puffzter

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I am not so much training them as going Mike Tyson on their asses ....

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Flippin' hilarious! Just try not to bite a chunk off their ears, eh?

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who felt quite a bit of guilt in chopping down a plant. When I determined to harvest my Mighty Freeze, I felt like a schlep. But, once she dried up for a couple of days, my guilt disappeared.

It sounds like you have much to consider in deciding upon a mother. I wish I could be of help to you in this regard, but I have not ventured down that path yet. After spending as much time and attention with and on your plants as you have, I know it will be difficult selecting only one, but hopefully one will really stand above the rest upon maturation of their buds.

As always, it's a pleasure to read your log, my friend! And, there is nothing wrong with your pics - if they are not as high in pixels as some, your words more than make up for it!

A bunch of pictures taken but only one turned out ok. Actually I am even quite happy with it which sais a lot.

Cola of plant 4 with some surrounding flowers from other tops and branches.

Enjoy.
Day 23 12/12

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/356dcfcb.jpg

Puffzter

lol .....lol....lol!!!!
If you take off an ear, be sure it is a bud, ready to cure!!

I am amazed at how you have only had green and good grow. Makes me want to jump out and get Excel and only have more to learn!!!

I am sure I read a thread by the stinkster on how she choose's clones! As I re-call: It was-ease of grow, health of plant, quality of bud and yield. Plus, bug free, etc. all the things you've enjoyed in your grow! I do not recall if she mentioned, size, but surely she did! I think you have to test all of the smokes first!! Why not, after all that work!!! I can only get dial-up or I'd jump around and find her post. In fact, I think she has a clone log, as well!

Frankly, I just love that #4! Guess, I love a challenge and you have 'tackled'- I mean wrestled with it very well!

Right now I am enduring the hard time of the year, it doesn't cool off much at night. Outdoor can be so unpredictable! Guess, I'll have to get Excel and just repeat your grow!!! I just love it and I know exactly what you mean about gardening. I use to have a vege one yearly and was addicted to it. It is a lot of fun. Plus, all the different things you can do with them. Can hardly wait, until you get into genetic breeding.

Is that your cute little Kitty? Looks pretty and big! What a sport!

You never mentioned the smell, I do not recall, anyway! How is the smell?
PR thanks for a little chuckle, always a good thing to have a good sense of humor when doing this!! :thumbsup: :hippy:

Hey Pain. :)

They smell like hmm don't know the word. You know that weed that grow around barns and in high grass that give you a sting if u touch them. Nettles or something like that. Word just popped up in my head but not sure. I am not english speaking. ;) A bit richer than that but about so. However, my charcoal filter takes 100% of the smell away and outside the growtent you cant feel a thing even though I tried putting my nose in the exhaust airflow.

I would love to breed tbh. I know I am a rookie but some day it would be really nice. Need more space though.
Now I have one meter square (about 10 sq ft) for flowering and 2*2 ft for vegg/clones mothers so I am cramped.
I'd love a big basement or something like that to play around in so I could do some serious work some day.

Anyway, it seems I was either lucky like hell or Dutch Passion just sells feminized WW's with really really good genetics.
All five seeds, even though they are not completelly uniform, show very good qualities. No bug attacks, no bad reactions to anything and all started to flower within 24h from eachother. All have very big flower production as well. They are all different but none of them have shown a single sign of problem so how do one choose? I mean, still out of these five very big plants I have not seen one leaf with a spot on it or any miscoloration (since the poison hut). Ofc Yeild and quality of smoke will be a huge factor since nothing else (yet) can make me decide.
Problem with that though is that there will be a time lapse between harvesting and being able to flower the next batch while I wait for end results and then clone the corresponding mother and start a clone SoG with them. I guess I could fill that gap with a Hindu Kush grow if one of my two turns out to be a decent female.
Maybe a ScrOG. There is so much hate agains males in the world og Mj that it kinda would feel good to put a few females behind bars, even if it only is chicken wire. ;)

In the end. I don't have a perfectly worked out plan of action yet so I just keep my options open for now keeping clones alive from all of them and the HK's in veg. Would be great to have one more growtent for flowering so I could run two separated flowering OPs at the same time but I think I am overproducing badly as it is. Mainly growing for the fun of it and to satisfy my need to learn more about everything. I don't smoke a lot, don't have any friends that smoke at all and selling, even though money is always welcome, sooner or later only leads to ME being ScrOG'ed and not behind chicken wire.
Guess I'll just stock up. lol.

The only goal I have is to within a few cycles go for a grow with its sole purpouse being to get .5g/W and month. If I can manage that in a flat SoG I can show to myself black on white that I know my shit and have managed to put my theoretical knowledge mixed with what I have learned practically to use.

Time will tell. It's just so interesting all this with so many ways of doing it and so many variables to play with that I am sure I have found a hobby that wont make me bored in a loooong time.

There you go, some reading. hehe

Puffzter

Look at this.
It's from a Hindu Kush that turned out male and got discarded. It was a fast growing plant and very healthy EVEN though it was this root bound.
Plants growing in coco can ofc experience problems from being root bound but you have to take it to the extreme for that to happen. The more rootbound they become the more frequently you need to water them however. The coco give out no nutrients but it does hold the moisture for the roots to feed off and that's why it can be grown in such small pots if one are prepared to tend to them a LOT.

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/fa6eed63.jpg

I did throw a few clones out today together with one Hindu Kush. I now have one HK left so it HAS to turn out female. ;)

I have clones left from all the WWs that still are possible mothers for the future. All but #1 which I think is growing a bit strange. It flowers well but have some issues. Nothing big but the other 4 plants have none so their clones are still saved even though I cut down on the numbers a bit and saved the ones that look best to grow into bushes to mother future WW grows.
In the end only one or two out of the 5 remaining clones will be saved as my future WW genetics.

Puffzter