Id vote old stoner gets 4 infractions .... for cyber attacks !
polictics, religion ,and sex, are not allowed on bb's,
they don far thee well
merry christmas ya'll crack this up !
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Id vote old stoner gets 4 infractions .... for cyber attacks !
polictics, religion ,and sex, are not allowed on bb's,
they don far thee well
merry christmas ya'll crack this up !
ya really dont sound as if your preachin peace old stoner :mad:
Easaron-
Yep, the military made my entire family a bunch of automated, flag-waving, warmongers. It was a typical response, however, from someone who has obviously never been in the military. I just consider the source... nuff' said about that. Geez...Quote:
stoner, seeing as how youre entire family seems like its been military, i can hardly expect a different response.
Gee, no shit? Different as in HOW? And show me where I even TRIED to imply or allude to me being privy to "secret" information, just because my sons serve their country? That is funny as hell.Quote:
however, its different today than it was when you were there. you may think you get accurate info just because "your sons" are in it, but it appears you are not.
Actually,I should have never responded to such an assinine statement, but I couldn't resist...
Who the fuck is Blackwater? ROFLMAO... We use them because we need to use them. Or any other private company that contracts to do jobs for the United States in ANY country. Do you relaize JUST HOW MANY private companies the U.S. hires to accomplish things for us? Apparently not. I don't care if we used the Keystone Kops. So long as we keep terror from reaching the streets of, say, even YOUR town. Mistakes are made, as in every war.Quote:
have you ever heard of blackwater? im sure you have, if you read the ny times. why dont you go ahead and explain to me why were using them. go ahead and try to give me a reasonable answer that doesnt point to a government spiraling towards oppression and corruption.
Ever watched, read, or did ANY research on the Second World War (just as an example). Privitization even existed THEN. And so did the MISTAKES.
Fact is, most couch-locked, uninformed Americans would rather throw up a peace sign, talk to those poor, persecuted terrorists, and correct this situation, stat! Right?
Just TRY doing that, and see if you come out of the meeting with your head still attached to your neck...
Many ARE very young, that is, the one's who support Paul. What's wrong with THAT fact? Additionally, I did not imply that anyone here was inintelligent. Maybe VERY UNEXPERIENCED, but I never said unintelligent. And yep, I meant NO OFFENSE when I said NO OFFENSE to anyone. Because of people like you who were bound to take my statements the way you did. Just thinking ahead, just thinking ahead...Quote:
ok... so you call us very young, and imply we are unintelligent and have not done any research. You think saying "NO offense" is going to make that ok?
Keeping your children from fighting a war on the same level as we are now is WEIRD LOGIC? Hmmm... Okie Dokie. Geez...Quote:
wow... what weird logic... lets keep a war going for longer than ever before, accomplish nothing, and assume that in the end it will "save our children". refight this same war? they wont? oh i get it, thats cuz theyll still be fighting the same one. if you want your children to live in a peaceful world, dont send them to the military like dad, and dont continue to fight this war... its not our job to stabilize those countries... its their job. just like it wasnt our job to come in and "save" them.
Yep, this war on terror may not EVER end. But I guess you'd rather sit back and wait until terrrorists decide to target YOU and YOUR TOWN, eh? I'd fight (if I were able, and the military would take me back, in my condition) until HELL FREEZES OVER to keep my family safe. You do not have enough cajones to fight for YOUR family?
So far, there has not been a terror attack INSIDE the United States in SIX YEARS. I'd say, even though I do agree on the fact, MORE could be done for Homeland Security. However, if we keep the pressure ON, Just like a well-oiled sports team, keep on doing what you're doing, we'll win. But then, the defeatest doth come out in you, for all to see... Thanks for the heads up...
Oh, and Dad didn't send ANYONE into the military, My sons and I had long discussions on the military before they joined. It was what THEY wanted to do. I gave them the pros and cons, and they also talked to tons of others who were serving, or who had served. They wanted to serve their country. And bubba, no matter what you say, my hat is OFF to ANYONE who wants to sincerely serve the country that gave them the freedom to be able to dissent, which is, incidentally, what you are doing. They even fight for YOU, believe it or not. Because it is the JOB they have chosen to do. God bless my sons, AND the military. For if it were not for our military, we'd be speaking with an English accent, and all saying God save the queen... Good grief, I am AMAZED at some of the statements some people make here.
Stabalize a country? Tell that to the Iraqis when Saddam was in control. They couldn't. They needed our help. Just as the United States needed France's help in the Revolutionary War. Just as many wars are fought - needing someone else's help.
The United States MUST keep it's interests safe, no matter WHERE it is threatened. The Middle East is THE HEADQUARTERS of terrorism in this day and age. Pretty damned good idea to jump right in the middle of it to me - keeps those bastards (errorists) occupied OVER THERE, and NOT over HERE.
Give me a few examples of what A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CONGRESS has done so far in the last while. I'd LOVE to hear them. This Congress has wasted more time and tried so hard to send the Republicans to hell in a handbasket, NOTHING MUCH is getting done at all. LEGISLATE, and STOP INVESTIGATING! THAT is why nothing is getting done. Period.Quote:
There's plenty gettin done... its just either a change in the wrong direction or a slight change in other areas that we havent talked about much... like energy and fuel economy standards.
Ron Paul thinks he can talk to the terrorists. He thinks he can fight the war on terror at home - you know - stop up the borders, become isolationists, etc. Read his website...but then, it wouldn't matter if he said he would wear a pink clowns costume, you would still agree with his foreign policy?Quote:
if youre such a fan of change, then whats wrong with RP? dont like the changes he wants to make? I sure as hell do. and the only reason he WONT get the nomination is because people who could make a difference decide its not worth it because hes "not going to win"
Nope, the reason Paul will NOT get the nomination is, simply put, he's an idiot, and on top of that,he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell in winning the presidency. You now, the rest of the folks here in this country greatly outnumbers us stoners. Paul wouldn't win if he DID get the nomination.
So you have served. I take the statement about you being non-military back, apologize, and I do sincerely thank you for serving your country. However, I went through 20 years of (the military's shit) and still think the same as I did when I was 18 and going into college. My son's think the same, and my father did as well. Some have bad experiences, other's have good experiences.Quote:
Im starting to stop caring about this... ive learned from experience that after youve gone through the military's shit you dont ever really think the same.
I tell anyone who asks if you are not ready to serve your country, it's people, and the powers that be, STAY OUT OF THE MILITARY. However ,if you have a very patriotic nature about you, and want to give back to the United States for giving us all the freedom to do and be anything we want to be, then go for it.
When someone joins the military, if they think they'll never be deployed or have to fight a war, and DON'T WANT TO, then PLEASE - STAY OUT OF THE MILITARY.
Yep, sure can. And will. But I never said anyone was unintelligent. But I did say some people need to do a tad more research to find the truth. Some may search and never find it. Can't help that...Quote:
You can vote how you want, so can we. My point was... dont accuse us of being uninformed of the issues and dont imply that we arent intelligent.
Good for you then. Vote for Paul, it is your right as an American. Myself, I agree with very little he says. Period.Quote:
I agree with EVERYTHING THERE except for his private property solution to pollution... tahts a little stupid imho.
Where've YOU been? Hiding in a bong, LOL? The whole world ALREADY hates us, and has since this country began. They can't stand our freedom. Pffffft.....Quote:
just fucking wait until everyone hates us.
American EMPIRE? ROFLMAO...okie dokie...I MAJORED in histroy. I see very little paralells between American and the Roman Empire. I think I'm gonna go throw up now....Good grief...Quote:
people who think like you will lead to the fall of the American Empire.
I know were not an empire, but look at ROME see any PARALLELS??? cuz I sure as hell do. history repeats itself, and were right at the climax of a bad rerun.
Fencewalker -
You DO realize he ran as a Libertarian candidate for president awhile back, don't you?Quote:
Because he is a true Republican. For limited federal government and a return to following the constitution...You know, that quaint document that is supposed to be the backbone of this country.
Restoring our Constitution is going to take a WHOLE LOT MORE than Ron Paul. Supreme Court judges MUST change. Senators MUST change. Representatives MUST change. Without that, Paul ain't going nowhere, no matter WHAT he does.
Show me a LAW, or where it is written in the Bill of Rights, OR the Constitution, where it says voting is a right. Nope, my friend, it is a privilege, which, I am afraid, not too many of us even use. Sad... But I'd dearly LOVE to see where ANY of our forefathers deemed it a "right."Quote:
Wow. Just wow. No, voting is not a "privilege". It's a right.
Okay, then what do we do? Sit back and watch as the terrorists fly planes into our buildings - the ones AMERICANS, and others toiled over to get up? I agree with you on the poverty and drug issue, but cannot you understand that these radical islamist TERRORISTS want to kill YOU and your way of life? They don't care what kind of an American (or more precisely, WESTERNER), you are. Good grief, Charlie Brown...Quote:
Not at all isolationist in my opinion. Non-interventionist, yes. We cannot continue to wage "war" against ideals. War on "Terror". War on "Drugs". War on "Poverty".
Again, thank you for the service to country and the sacrifices that your family made by joining the military. We probably passed one another down Noriega country.Quote:
Btw, since we are measuring internet penii...My dad was in Korea, my brother was stationed in Vietnam and I was a member of the 3rd Infantry stationed in Panama in the 80's.
Good for you and your brother. Vote for Paul. You have the right to vote as you see fit. But the question was does anybody like Ron Paul, and I sure DO NOT.Quote:
My brother and I support Ron Paul. My dad doesn't support anybody.
Your dad is just waiting for a viable candidate to come through the mass of bullshit that presidential elections are. :thumbsup:
To Ebel Eyes-
I do so whole-heartedly agree. This "war on drugs" is bullshit. Might as well be fighting flies in Africa...Quote:
I'd honestly say the War on Drugs is the longest war we've been doing. This country has been demonizing and arresting drug users for quite sometime now.
To Easaron -
Uh, hate to disagree, but we ARE fighting the "war on drugs" with guns AGAINST armed gunmen. All the time. Maybe no tanks, but plenty of small arms fire. Booby-traps, etc.Quote:
true, but thats not a war per se. were not fighting with guns against people with guns, were not sending tanks up against dealers... the war on drugs is even more of a joke than the war on terror... but the war on terror is a WAR
The war on drugs is the one I would like to see stopped. Keep killing the terrorists.
Mr. Purple Part III -
Ever consider that YOU may be "misinformed?" ROFLMAO...Quote:
I agree with everything you said, but some are misinformed, but i apologize as it gives me no right to insult others.
It just agitated me. and i heavily agree on the afraid of change.
But why not? Are we satisfied now with the way america is going?
I don't see why we don't take a chance, thats how america came to be right?
I say with another president i fear there may be an uproar, cause as far as i now there are americans not afraid of taking it to the street rather than a ballat poll.
Imo i would like to see a change and see how it would go
cause we could just impeach the guy.
Which comes to consider why didn't we do this with bush, and its obvious sum agree with his methods.
I just find that beyond belief....call me ignorant...but
theres a fine line.
And no, not afraid of change at all - when it is the RIGHT change.
Go ahead, take a chance - take it to the streets. Didn't work in '68, won't work now. Ask me how I know.
Impeach Bush for WHAT? Hilarious, and I shouldn't have responded at all...Sorry...
I agree with Bush that we should fight 'em there, intead of fighting 'em here. Sounds like pretty good logic to me. If the terrorists were allowed to bring this fight to our soil (which happened in 2001, remember), HOW MANY INNOCENT AMERICAN LIVES WOULD BE LOST? And most importantly, WHY? Because us Americans didn't have the balls to stand and fight? Good grief, Americans of this day and time couldn't take another World War II. We have become a nation of - except for the few and the proud - a nation of pussies. Period.
To silkyblue -
I'd LOVE to see an entire earth full of peaceful people, but as a quick study in history will reveal, that shit AIN'T gonna happen.
I'm preaching keeping my grandchildren and their children and their children ALIVE. By fighting this war NOW.
I am all for peace, but everyone isn't. Ask bin Laden...
Oh, and about the infractions. I do not believe I have broken any rules, and have only answered everyone's post. Infract if they will, that is the Mods perogative. It still won't keep me from saying what I believe, just as you have the same right.
You guys have fun flaming me on this thread - I'm through with it... It's getting REAL old...
You want to try that one again BlackHole?
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
You can't even define "right" (i mean that by its a concept).Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Stoner
My point is it would be a better change for the country then the way it is now.
Not only this but i have clearly have evidence that have proven you statements to be wrong.
Yeah back in 68 was the hippie movement, what if the whole country would go, are you telling me the government would stop a huge percentage of the population (pfft they don't even have enough soldiers to do so now as me how i now that:(), as the polls said 70% don't agree with war in iraq.
Your a minority and the one who is misinformed and stubborn with arrogance which contributes to why numerous countries don't like us.
How many innocent people will die overall? It isn't just about us,
with this "war" (note that keyword don't try to ignore it) many people are going to die.
We should have expected 9/11 to happen, we voted the wrong people in office and the politicians they voted for made the wrong decisions.
I agree with you on not fighting with in our soil, but you have to understand eye for eye is not going to get no where.
Myself im not afraid of conflict, and wanted to join the military but after finding newfound knowledge forget about it.
You have to look at americas faults, our economy booms with wars just look at ww2.
We go into other countries and tell them we'll help them out yadda, yadda, yadda, and we put our corporations, mcdonalds, and etc, in their to make money.
Capitalism is part of the problem, we should not impose our dominance on other countries it goes against want america stands for.
Why do we butt in other countries wars? For what will we benefit from this? We should just communicate with them and etc.
But not help them out in which dangerous things could come back on us.
I have clearly stated facts in my above posts, you wish not too recognize them, thats okay, but your methods of how things should work out will not benefit this country either.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq death toll 'soared post-war'
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