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ah...This thread makes me want to homeschool my kids, but at the same time I want them to see how rediculous other people can be. I have to switch to a different thread now. I feel like I'm screaming into the ear of Helen Keller, and that's just kind of uncomfortable. Time to smoke a bowl and move to something less political for the time being.
yeah forreal as an educator you should know the texts especially history are FAR from unbiased. It's always in terms of the US how it benefits us or how someone is supposedly against things that benefit us. That pretty easily sums it up. Strive to implement real facts and historical documentation into your lessons..and posts while you're at it
Oh man and how could you possibly disagree with "socialized medicine"?! jeez, especially in today's society..and wait by socialized medicine..you DO mean healthcare for every citizen of this country regardless of wealth right? this is one of those things in politics that simply cannot be argued against.. how on earth do you justify denying someone healthcare they need..that is beyond me..unless of course you ALSO are being paid off by the HMOs? which still wouldn't really explain that
well heres some of Canada's issues with it, from the mouth of one of the doctors
"I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic - with a three-year wait list; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks. overnment researchers now note that more than 1.5 million Ontarians (or 12% of that province's population) can't find family physicians. Health officials in one Nova Scotia community actually resorted to a lottery to determine who'd get a doctor's appointment. These problems are not unique to Canada - they characterize all government-run health care systems.
Canadian doctors, long silent on the health care system's problems, are starting to speak up. Last August, they voted Brian Day president of their national association. Day has become perhaps the most vocal critic of Canadian public health care, having opened his own private surgery center and challenging the government to shut him down.
And now even Canadian governments are looking to the private sector to shrink the waiting lists. In British Columbia, private clinics perform roughly 80% of government-funded diagnostic testing."
Sup Reb I just saw the thread ...............and had to add Bush is a moron...............he has never done any good him self it was always some eleses idea. Hes a puppet selling lies and his actions are ludacrist. I cant belive he has been in office for 8 years. It is hard to even express this cause I hate the man, He is here today or tomarrow and I have been asked to stay clear and I must comply.. Bunch of bullshit comes to my town my state and my community; but I have respect for my people and county and that is why Im here and not over their. Just hate that guy though
I dont know enough about socialized health care to make a informative decision as there are ALOT of variables involved but it seems to me that a free market society demands growth and if medicine became socialized there would be no incentive to seek newer techniques or drugs, as the people who currently are in those positions would not be making the same wages they are now, true its driven by money and profit, but isnt that why we 'ALL WORK'? to earn money and better our lives, sure there are the few humanitarians (spell check) out there that dont care ab out the all might monetary figure, but they are few and far in between.
Not long ago in Canada, a woman came to USA to deliver her child because the Canadian doctors told her they could not care for her baby there in Canada as it didnt have the proper facilities. but USA did (competition and growth). Also waiting months and months just for regular visits.
I dont claim to know jack squat about socialized medicine, but it seems to me like a disaster.
Is there a socialized system of medicine in any country that currently beats the care of a free market system? I dont know.
I would love to have free health/dental care as it is spendy, I just dont think it is good for long term though.
^yes but nothing is "free" have fun paying taxes through the ass! Just like welfare.
Bush does fucking suck. And stereotyping people because their views follow a trend isn't cool or funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by junther22
I'm a Canadian and I love my health care, doctor visits, and such. it works for the most part, no system is perfect.
^Yes and if you dearly love socialized medicine and your American and you hate Bush and all that jazz then move to Canada or the UK. Please. (im not talking to you, as I am aware that you are indeed Canadian.)