gay marriage what do you think?

[QUOTE=Torog]. "

I realize,that all gays aren't child molestors,but the facts show that the ratio for pedophilia is higher with the gay population,because of the proportional population ratio.


Do you know what you're talking about? Gays represent aproximatively 10-15 % of the entire population.

So, there's less gay pedophiles than straitght pedophiles.

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Originally Posted by Encatuse

I can hardly read past the first page of this... I'm so apalled at what you people are saying. Especially Torog.. I mean.. I knew he was conservitist, and I knew he would be against gay marriage.. but I had no idea he'd spout such complete bullshit ((and I mean that as in the shit he spouted either had nothing to do with homosexuals, or the same exact thing could be said for heterosexuals)) I truly had respect for the way Torog would justify his opinion in almost every situation, but wow.. he's done a truly terrible job on this one. Making himself look like a true ass, as well as a true judgemental stereotyping asshole. ^.^ So kudos Torog! Now quickly, chop off your testicles so you never again reproduce.

I'll be honest, I don't see gays as a problem. We're overpopulating extremely fast, just as The C said, so every little fag helps. Err, every little bit**. But gay marriage, well, I don't give a shit personally, but I could definately see why it's viewed negatively.. I mean marriage has, for a long time, meant a HOLY matrimony between two individuals. And being gay, in alot of people's eyes, is unholy. So, I think there needs to be a government recognized union between gays, but I think it shouldn't be called marriage, just to avoid problems.

Hempheadjack: Im very sorry about the fact that you were raped. But you really should understand, not every gay man raped you. Only three did. Those three gay men were rapists. Not every gay man. But, for the sake of a better world, I hope those three fucks are shot dead seven times over. And posting your address in the same forum you post pictures of your awesome fucknig gardens is a bad idea. Because I guarantee if you go to jail, there'll be alot more homosexual raping there.

And lesbians ((Yup! They're gay people too! Sorry that one guy buttfuckin another grosses some of you out, but don't forget lesbians are just as gay)) YES I said LESBIANS, as in gay females, GAY females, have less stds then heterosexuals. Looks like god forgot to punish one half of gays. Looks like your god is ALMOST as much of a hypocrit as you Torog. :)

And as for being gay.. well, I'm not. Any form of gay sex grosses me out ((girls too)) but you know what.. Thinking about two obese people having sex grosses me out. Does that mean obese people shouldn't have sex?

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you people reallythink i posted my address,,comeon,,that is a part of me that can just outrite mind fuck you as in (whoever wants to send me a hate notice,)it will go to the stockton police,,thats the address i gave,,now,the people i sent my pipes to,,they have my address,,and one more thing,if i ever went to jail,,i am dying of cancer,,ill kill anyone that tries that again,

with all that said,,anybody can now say what they want,,cuz,,sticks and stones can break my bones,,words will never harm me,,just piss me off,,im done on this subject,,,Jack,,so i guess it is all about gay marriage,,,,,let em get married,,,i dont give a rats ass no more on this subject,,it is a burnout,,,Jack

Euphoric: I encourage you to read past the initial title of the articles you use as sources. :) I'll show you some quotes from them.

The first one: "Most of the women (80%) reported having had sex with a man during their lifetime.... The same was true even among 257 women who self-identified as lesbian"

This, I believe makes the first source disregardable. But if anything this should help prove a very similar point:

"This means that routine acquisition of chronic viral sexually transmitted diseases, like herpes, human papillomavirus (HPV), HIV, and hepatitis B, can occur at the same rate as in strictly heterosexual women," Dr. Marrazzo said. "So providers should really assume nothing when a woman says 'I'm a lesbian' -- at least in terms of prior viral sexually transmitted disease acquisition -- until a more complete sexual history is taken."

I was trying to make the point that stds weren't put on the earth as punishment for homosexuals... and since that source said that lesbians get stds at the same rate as heterosexual women.. well you get it. ;)

As for the next one:

"Nearly one in ten lesbians participating in a small study was infected with herpes" is a direct quote from it... Now. heres a quote to show you how many heterosexual women have it.

How common is genital herpes?

"Results of a recent, nationally representative study show that genital herpes infection is common in the United States. Nationwide, 45 million people ages 12 and older, or one out of five of the total adolescent and adult population, is infected with HSV-2. HSV-2 infection is more common in women (approximately one out of four women)" thats from http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/h...lstdherpes.htm

Now keep in mind, that includes both lesbians and straight women, but realize how drastically smaller the population of gay women is compared to the straight woman population. So, in conclusion. Thank you. Your sources actually proved the legitimacy of my argument.

And for the third source you provided:

"In fact, the risk of STD transmission between women varies significantly depending on the STD. Herpes, HPV (genital wart virus), and bacterial vaginosis are transmitted fairly easily between women during sex. HIV, hepatitis B, gonorrhea, and chlamydia are much less likely to be transmitted--the risk is low but it is still possible.

The majority of lesbian and bisexual women have (or have had) sex with men, and all STDs are easily transmitted from men to women during intercourse. Often STD do not have symptoms, so it is possible for a woman to have become infected years ago and to still harbor the infection."

Herpes and HPV is one of the most common viruses among heterosexual people as well. It's estimated 1 in 4 heterosexuals will contract herpes at some point in their life. As for the others it listed, it stated it was less likely they would be transferred. The third source did very little for either of our arguments. It was just out to dismiss the myth that lesbians got few-no stds. When they do. Im not trying to state they don't. But they still get less of em then heterosexual females. And that, my friend, was my whole argument. I think that pretty much completely debases the idea that god gave stds to punish homosexuals. Because if he did.. he's one hell of a stupid god, punishing more heterosexual women then homosexual women. ((Or maybe he's just like the average homophobe.. forgetting that two women constitutes as homosexuality as well just because they're attracted to it. "Down with gays!" -silently beats off to lesbian porn- "Put em on an island!" -asks wife to have a threesome with another chick-))

Torog - Looking back on my post, I realize it was probably the wrong thing to do to mention the molestation of your daughter. Im sad to hear the fuck who did it only got three years.. personally I wish all child molesters and in some cases rapists got the death penalty when convicted. I just wish people would realize though, that you can hardly consider a pedophile homosexual or heterosexual or bisexual... I can hardly look at them as humans and I think most people feel the same. I mean, you realize that there are more blacks in jail then whites? And whites are a majority. But, it's not like you'd say black people shouldn't be allowed basic rights because of that. Anyway, I'm sorry about bringing up your daughter being molested. That was rude and non-compassionate of me, and since I have no experience as a parent, you're right, I wouldn't know what it's like.

Man, I always get so annoyed with you and your insanely conservatist opinions, and then you reply to my posts so nicely I feel like a jackass. -laughs- I suppose that does kind of make me an ass. Ah well. Sorry bout the bit of a flip out, I was acting on impulse from offense I took from some statements that I believe are rash and completel bullshit, but you've still always shown yourself to be a respectable person none the less on this board. At least in my experience.

Hempheadjack - Hahaha. Giving out the address to the stockton police was an awesome idea. ^.^ I would have loved to see them recieve a death-threat or something from a letter with an accurate return address.

Euphoric - Oh and here's a link just to show you I'm even more right. lol. http://www.avert.org/womstata.htm If you look at the chart aids from heterosexual contact is higher then from injection and more then 200 times from "Other/Unknown" which would include homosexual contact. Thats just in women though.

watever :p

pedpophilia is sick and disgusting but you cant say all gay are peds thats just irresponsible and as far as those with less than pleasant experiences with gays all i have to say as rude as it might sound ... get over it, holding hate in your heart really takes a toll on person.

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I realize,that all gays aren't child molestors,but the facts show that the ratio for pedophilia is higher with the gay population,because of the proportional population ratio.


Do you know what you're talking about? Gays represent aproximatively 10-15 % of the entire population.

So, there's less gay pedophiles than straitght pedophiles.

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Howdy NurseGirl,

What I'm saying is,is that the rate of incidence,is higher because of the ratio of incidence to total gay population,results in a higher incidence ratio-compared to the ratio of incidence among the hetereosexual population,just because heterosexuals out number homosexuals,doesn't mean that there's necessarily a dominance among heterosexuals.

Given that homosexuality is based on un-natural desires and urges,homosexuality is predatory by nature,because Nature,does not provide homosexual partners..therefore,they must be sought out-whether they are willing,or of an appropriate age. Nature does however,provide plenty of heterosexual partners..thereby reducing the need for a predatory agenda.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Given that homosexuality is based on un-natural desires and urges,homosexuality is predatory by nature,because Nature,does not provide homosexual partners..therefore,they must be sought out-whether they are willing,or of an appropriate age. Nature does however,provide plenty of heterosexual partners..thereby reducing the need for a predatory agenda.

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that's probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever had the misfortune to read. Come on, Torog.. you're better than that, man

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Given that homosexuality is based on un-natural desires and urges,homosexuality is predatory by nature,because Nature,does not provide homosexual partners..therefore,they must be sought out-whether they are willing,or of an appropriate age. Nature does however,provide plenty of heterosexual partners..thereby reducing the need for a predatory agenda.

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You must also be predatory by nature because nature doesnt provide that many ignorant red-necks.

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

You must also be predatory by nature because nature doesnt provide that many ignorant red-necks.

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Howdy juggalo420,

Well..I must admit-that ya made me laugh..thanx !

Have a great,Texas-sized , Merry Christmas !

Torog :D