Accidentally recognized my plane, what do I do now?

so I was listening to tool and my boyfriend was talking to me about astral projection and meditation. I wasn't really all that interested because I've got so much other stuff to be thinking about that I didn't think I really had the time to be leaving my body. But I decided to meditate.

At first I tried remembering the feeling of being detached from myself, as if my body was just a shell for me, something I'm a part of but in a sense trapped in. As I cleared my mind and focused more on that feeling, I started to see things as if I wasn't really a part of any of it, including my body. And I noticed all of the sudden that my body was just a part of everything else.

Then I remembered a concept my bf had introduced to me that men were just energy that fell in love with nature and so became a part of it.

When I try to recreate the feeling it comes to me easily and it's not difficult to hold on to. I thaught that was odd because the people around me who have been trying to do it have said that it was hard for them. I didn't really have any interest in astral projection before I accidentally realized that I could.

Should I persue it further even though I had no real interest in it before? If so, whats the next step?

Next steps:

1. Roll a joint.
2. Light it up.
3. Smoke it.

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

so I was listening to tool and my boyfriend was talking to me about astral projection

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Ugh!!! Stop, right there! I can't go on...
Blah, Blah, Blah.
Ok, only kidding.

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and meditation. I wasn't really all that interested because I've got so much other stuff to be thinking about

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Ok, go on.

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that I didn't think I really had the time to be leaving my body.

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Hmmm, I see...

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But I decided to meditate.

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:o

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At first I tried remembering the feeling of being detached from myself, as if my body was just a shell for me, something I'm a part of but in a sense trapped in. As I cleared my mind and focused more on that feeling, I started to see things as if I wasn't really a part of any of it, including my body. And I noticed all of the sudden that my body was just a part of everything else.

Then I remembered a concept my bf had introduced to me that men were just energy that fell in love with nature and so became a part of it.

When I try to recreate the feeling it comes to me easily and it's not difficult to hold on to. I thaught that was odd because the people around me who have been trying to do it have said that it was hard for them. I didn't really have any interest in astral projection before I accidentally realized that I could.

Should I persue it further even though I had no real interest in it before? If so, whats the next step?

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Good luck. :smokin:

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Originally Posted by willystylle

Next steps:

1. Roll a joint.
2. Light it up.
3. Smoke it.

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no see I did that before hand! Thanks for the helpfull advice though.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Ugh!!! Stop, right there! I can't go on...
Blah, Blah, Blah.
Ok, only kidding.
Ok, go on. Hmmm, I see... :o


Good luck. :smokin:

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So you dont know anything about astral projection, meditation, or spiritual things that could be helpfull to me then? Ok. Thanks for the good luck.

this is the spirituality forum right? people ARE supposed to ask these questions here?

I could see astral projection as being a real mind-fuck like shit if you knew there was something else besides what you've known to be true all your life and then suddenly its gone, that would mess alot of ppl up.

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

So you dont know anything about astral projection, meditation, or spiritual things that could be helpfull to me then? Ok. Thanks for the good luck.

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Yes, I know how to meditate, astral projection is a psychic technique (I've had an out-of-body experience), relax your whole face by trying to squeeze it into your nose, and, then, releasing, maybe try some Pilates, they're a good source of relaxation and they tone your muscles, making you feel taller.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Yes, I know how to meditate, astral projection is a psychic technique (I've had an out-of-body experience), relax your whole face by trying to squeeze it into your nose, and, then, releasing, maybe try some Pilates, they're a good source of relaxation and they tone your muscles, making you feel taller.

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Been doing pilates for a while now. It does make me feel taller.

Lol. That's what Mari Windsor says after her workouts. "You should feel taller, leaner, etc."

I've heard of that happening easily for people with Tool's music lately ... interesting, quite.

Theres no real "pursueing" its a gift you have access to at all times your entire life using it is extreamly simple. You can do it every night when you go to sleep. I would suggest taking it very seriously, maybe you will be able to see through the fog a little bit better. Just remember the astral plane consists of heaven, hell and everything inbetween.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

Theres no real "pursueing" its a gift you have access to at all times your entire life using it is extreamly simple. You can do it every night when you go to sleep. I would suggest taking it very seriously, maybe you will be able to see through the fog a little bit better. Just remember the astral plane consists of heaven, hell and everything inbetween.

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What does the astral plane have to do with heaven and hell?

Heaven and hell are man made creations which have nothing to do with reality. They exist on the astral plane due to thought processes of humans. With astral projection you can travel to these places, though I wouldnt recommend going to hell. I hear it feels like your stuck in mud and I'm guessing there is alot of negative entities there.

http://www.astralvoyage.com/

http://www.astralpulse.com/

http://www.astralprojection.ws/

http://www.wicca.com/celtic/astral/astral1.htm

Astral projection is the ability to leave your body. Everyone leaves their body at night, but before they do leave, they have to put the physical mind to sleep. Most people don't remember this, but when the physical mind is asleep, the subconscious takes over, and this is usually when you do your astral projection. In other words, everybody does it, but they just don't remember doing it.

Apparently if you have dreams which feel like you're flying it's a sign of astral travel, and if you dream of falling it's your astral form returning to your body. Work on it. Could get a lot more interesting.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

Heaven and hell are man made creations which have nothing to do with reality. They exist on the astral plane due to thought processes of humans. With astral projection you can travel to these places, though I wouldnt recommend going to hell. I hear it feels like your stuck in mud and I'm guessing there is alot of negative entities there.

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Does that apply to everyone? What if I'm a non-believer of heaven and hell?

Thanks for the links, Euphoric. I'll check them out. :dance:

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

this is the spirituality forum right? people ARE supposed to ask these questions here?

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I have found this fascinating tho I don't know exactly how I feel about it, since I'm not sure about some involved. But, that could be my own programing.

Not at all intending to minimize your own journey, or to push any of my views......My question ~ I have heard that some have seen a silver looking cord. that attaches them all the way back to their body. I am also aware of a passage in the last chapter of Ecclesiastes. That says "remember Him before the silver cord is severed, before the bowl is broken at the well". apparently poetic language, to refer to our parting this earthly realm.

....just wondering if anyone has seen this or read about it in any of their literature.

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Originally Posted by psychopixi

Apparently if you have dreams which feel like you're flying it's a sign of astral travel, and if you dream of falling it's your astral form returning to your body. Work on it. Could get a lot more interesting.

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you got it right sorta......
however during true astral travel you are aware of what is happening and can therefore controll it.
I have been doing OOB since I was little and have learned some good methods. I have done it hundreds of times and the my favorite way of doing it involves your mind staying awake the whole time while your body falls asleep.
to do this wake up early in the morning say 3am
get a cup of coffee or eat a candy bar "this will supply the brain with sugars needed to achieve certain brainwave states
lay back donw in bed
let your whole body relax
keep relaxing more and more
let your body sink into the bed by relaxing more
pretty soon you may notice a vibration on your body that feels like when your foot falls asleep
relax deeper the vibration becomes almost unbearable and wierd
relax
bammm try to stand up
at first it is hard to tell that you left your body because you are accustomed to having a body and thats not the true soul form however....
for now you will have one and when you get up out of your physical body you will still be in body form
get up and look around and you may notice some things in your room are out of place
look down at your sleeping body
from here there are infinite things to do
for example I like to go outside "through walls" and fly around
this is much better than your average "flying dream" because you are in controll

Okay I think I understand your question now. You're asking if its SAFE to astral-project?

The spirit shares a strong connection with the body, and this connection is only broken when either the spririt or the body dies. Continue to astral project, but make sure that your mind, body and spirit are all safe. Continue to explore the 2nd plane, and eventually your spirit will be strong enough to visit the 3rd and 4th planes.

Beware of other spirits and demons - they will attack you if they see you are not prepared. And beware the body - make sure that is safe too. Be prepared to be afraid, excited, anxious and happy. Have control over your mind and your emotions, and the astral planes will be yours.

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Originally Posted by notrightquite

I've heard of that happening easily for people with Tool's music lately ... interesting, quite.

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exactly

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

Theres no real "pursueing" its a gift you have access to at all times your entire life using it is extreamly simple. You can do it every night when you go to sleep. I would suggest taking it very seriously, maybe you will be able to see through the fog a little bit better. Just remember the astral plane consists of heaven, hell and everything inbetween.

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I had assumed that heaven and hell were something that could only be reached after death, and that there were many astral planes other than them.

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

http://www.astralvoyage.com/

http://www.astralpulse.com/

http://www.astralprojection.ws/

http://www.wicca.com/celtic/astral/astral1.htm

Astral projection is the ability to leave your body. Everyone leaves their body at night, but before they do leave, they have to put the physical mind to sleep. Most people don't remember this, but when the physical mind is asleep, the subconscious takes over, and this is usually when you do your astral projection. In other words, everybody does it, but they just don't remember doing it.

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thank you much for the links

You know, I've been interested in astral projection and meditation for a long time as well. I've never succeeded at it no matter what techniques I use lol. However, once I started smoking cannabis, I did have one random OBE, where I went nowhere and just held onto my body and pulled myself back in quickly. Also, I did post a guide to meditation with cannabis in these forums not too long ago. You should check it out if interested. (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68743)

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Originally Posted by willystylle

Okay I think I understand your question now. You're asking if its SAFE to astral-project?

The spirit shares a strong connection with the body, and this connection is only broken when either the spirit or the body dies. Continue to astral project, but make sure that your mind, body and spirit are all safe. Continue to explore the 2nd plane, and eventually your spirit will be strong enough to visit the 3rd and 4th planes.

Beware of other spirits and demons - they will attack you if they see you are not prepared. And beware the body - make sure that is safe too. Be prepared to be afraid, excited, anxious and happy. Have control over your mind and your emotions, and the astral planes will be yours.

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Willy, It's remarkable, this world, of which you are so familiar. Alot of this blows my mind, Its as foreign to me as I must be to many here.......... just to inquire, this is not my thread, I want to respect it. I don't understand what you mean by keeping the body, mind, and spirit safe.
Actually, I guess I do, I don't understand how it would be done. Evil forces...To see some of these things would tweak me quite a bit. I'm familiar with dark spiritual beings having been harassed by them during a time when I was working, in a spiritual capacity, with a demon possessed individual, I had demonic visions, I could sense them when they came into the room. I had to sleep with a light on, at 25 yrs old.
They hate me, and I hate them.

It seems that some people have some "gift" spiritually, regardless of their spiritual world view. Some on the Christian side of the fence, have gone out of their body, and reported conversations with various people, seeing events, Rick Joyner claimed that he talked with Jesus at length. Christian prophets,.... Prophets otherwise, both wired for this type of op.

What are these planes 2nd 3rd 4th. I looked at Euphorics links, may have missed it.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by The Taquito Bandito

Does that apply to everyone? What if I'm a non-believer of heaven and hell?

Thanks for the links, Euphoric. I'll check them out. :dance:

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They still are there on the astral plane. It's like saying I dont believe in apples. They are fake so it doesnt really matter if you believe in them or not.

I think mysticweb.org has a free 9 week course in Astral Projection, if anyone is interested or dedicated enough. I took the course once but didn't dedicate myself to it. However, it does seem to give some good info and techniques to try.

I will post some other methods that I use later. I gotta leave in a few lol
but dont expect to be able to do it without putting in the effort.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

They still are there on the astral plane. It's like saying I dont believe in apples. They are fake so it doesnt really matter if you believe in them or not.

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CrACK!

Apples arent fake!

So your saying that heaven, hell and apples are all accessable through astral projection?

Does anyone else think that Tool is TRYING to get us out of our bodies?

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Originally Posted by willystylle

Next steps:

1. Roll a joint.
2. Light it up.
3. Smoke it.

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And now try it.

ok here goes......
theres a method that involves waking yourself from a dream state and realizing you are dreaming. the knowing you are dreaming or in astral form is key and without it you arent truly astral travelling. and no pot doesnt help in the least.
this method is a form of self hypnosis combined with a dream hook to help you
every night before you go to bed look at your hands and tell yourself that if you look at your hands in your dream then you will know you are dreaming
once you know you are dreaming you will have a spontaneous awakening and then be astral and be able to controll it
this method takes about 2 or 3 months of telling yourself every night
it will program you to do it
I am sure you can program yourself to do it every single night also
maybe change the words to something like " if I look at my hands in my dream I will realize I am dreaming and once I do realize I am dreaming I can do that in every dream from then on out"
but yeah do this EVERY night and be positive about it
be persistent and you WILL succeed

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Originally Posted by harmonicminor

ok here goes......
theres a method that involves waking yourself from a dream state and realizing you are dreaming. the knowing you are dreaming or in astral form is key and without it you arent truly astral travelling. and no pot doesnt help in the least.
this method is a form of self hypnosis combined with a dream hook to help you
every night before you go to bed look at your hands and tell yourself that if you look at your hands in your dream then you will know you are dreaming
once you know you are dreaming you will have a spontaneous awakening and then be astral and be able to controll it
this method takes about 2 or 3 months of telling yourself every night
it will program you to do it
I am sure you can program yourself to do it every single night also
maybe change the words to something like " if I look at my hands in my dream I will realize I am dreaming and once I do realize I am dreaming I can do that in every dream from then on out"
but yeah do this EVERY night and be positive about it
be persistent and you WILL succeed

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That's about one of the most easiest techniques I've heard of. I'll be sure to give it a try. :) thanks

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Originally Posted by willystylle

Okay I think I understand your question now. You're asking if its SAFE to astral-project?

The spirit shares a strong connection with the body, and this connection is only broken when either the spririt or the body dies. Continue to astral project, but make sure that your mind, body and spirit are all safe. Continue to explore the 2nd plane, and eventually your spirit will be strong enough to visit the 3rd and 4th planes.

Beware of other spirits and demons - they will attack you if they see you are not prepared. And beware the body - make sure that is safe too. Be prepared to be afraid, excited, anxious and happy. Have control over your mind and your emotions, and the astral planes will be yours.

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BITCH
you put my quote in your profile
I keel you!!!!
lol

i'm gonna try astral projection in a second
do i close my eyes? Or keep them open?

whatever you do, dont buy the "ultimate chunky" peanut butter

lmao, but i like chunky peanut butter.

Chunky peanut butter is good.

I've heard of that looking at your hands technique. My bf calls that a "reality check". I'll start doing that but I dont dream as often as I used too.

I actually have an easier time feeling my astral self/channeling energy et cetera with my eyes open. I actually felt it for the first time after I'd been looking at the frame of a television for a while. Seeing my body in my peripheral vision, helps me detach.

I dont know whether pot helps or not but I bet it's different for everyone. I think drinking and smoking at the same time gave me an interesting perspective.

I still think I probably wont see any apples on any astral planes but you never know.

princess,
by using that method it will make you dream by programming your subconcious. and then you may awaken from the dream state with help from the dream hook.
also another thing to help you dream.....
Salvia Divinorum brings me long and vivid dreams for 2 weeks straight after smoking just a little. Not even enough to feel anything but it still makes me dream. Also I have some Silene Capensis growing and I eat a little piece of leaf every now and then. also Mint tea has chemicals related to Salvinorin and that too helps bring dreams. Dream herb doesnt seem to work nor does mugwort or Entada Rheedi.

heres a different method also
this one works by weakening the bridge between the concious and subconcious mind
every day you will sleep for 4 hours then get up for 4 hours, sleep 4 hours, get up 4 hours, sleep, get up, sleep , get up.
so just alternate sleep patterns at short intervals
I got that method from a Jane Roberts "Seth" book
it will work in a shorter time than the other method
maybe try it over a weekend lol

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

so I was listening to tool and my boyfriend was talking to me about astral projection and meditation. I wasn't really all that interested because I've got so much other stuff to be thinking about that I didn't think I really had the time to be leaving my body. But I decided to meditate.

At first I tried remembering the feeling of being detached from myself, as if my body was just a shell for me, something I'm a part of but in a sense trapped in. As I cleared my mind and focused more on that feeling, I started to see things as if I wasn't really a part of any of it, including my body. And I noticed all of the sudden that my body was just a part of everything else.

Then I remembered a concept my bf had introduced to me that men were just energy that fell in love with nature and so became a part of it.

When I try to recreate the feeling it comes to me easily and it's not difficult to hold on to. I thaught that was odd because the people around me who have been trying to do it have said that it was hard for them. I didn't really have any interest in astral projection before I accidentally realized that I could.

Should I persue it further even though I had no real interest in it before? If so, whats the next step?

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Hi. I would say straight off that it doesnt matter if you were interested in it before or not. It is now that matters. If you are interested in it now then by all means dedicate time and energy to it. If youre only half asses into it then your results will reflect it.
The energy you put into it directly influences your success and how deeply you can journey into the worlds on the other side of the veil as well as travel about this one.
If you are looking to just have fun, by all means do it. I am willing to bet it will lead into something much much more. It leads to a different perception of life and the place you hold within its web. It will elevate you to a new level of awareness and often will trigger you to accept other gifts you have. It will undoubtedly remove the misconception that the physical is reality.
When you can journey as a soul with a fully aware consciousness you will reap rewards and be enriched by experiences you will never find on the physical plane. Man I could tell some stories!
So to sum it up " GO FOR IT!"
Id be happy to guide you if you need it.
I will also recommend a book I have often mentioned here called simply
"Adventures Beyond the body" by William Buhlman.
It is a plain english , matter of fact book to introduce you to techniques to sharpen your skills and journey with ease and confidance. Its a great book.