also does anybody have any experince with a vaporizer especally a vapezilla?
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also does anybody have any experince with a vaporizer especally a vapezilla?
wtf, post screwed up, Anyways i heard that a vaporizer can get 3-4 the times of thc in ur lungs per hit, then a pipe can, because the flame u put on the pipe destroys most of the thc turning it into smoke, and that when u inhale it, u only get 25%.
i would say that the thc content is much higher near the end of the vaporizing bowl than at the beginning, its important to understand that at the beginning of a bowl u have more flavor than thc, but near the end, less flavor and more thc.. the stone comes on slower, but is a pure stone, and u can get much more stoned with vaporizing than u can with smoking and that is because the toxic chemicals cause the haze part of the stone associated with smoking, and the more one smokes, the more the haze part of the stone overtakes the actuall stone thus limiting the stone experience... with a vaporizer u can keep puffing away until u are completely silly, and still be able to enjoy the stone without the haze trying to close your eyes. and in the pure stone category, your eyes are simply relaxed and smiling.. i havent heard too much about the vapezilla and the super vapezilla, but from what i can gather about them so far, i think it is a little soon to be investing in one of those, but if u want a vaporizer that has withstood the test of time, at least a few years, then get the AroMed, otherwise u could be taking a real gamble with your money... i myself already lost 275$ on crapy vaporizers, and finally i spent 400$ saying, this thing better be the one... and sure enough, it sure is.. i understand the supervapezilla won the cannibis cup 2005, and i think that is because AroMed cant win every year, they do need to have something new win.. i think the AroMed won in 02... and with that many years of existance, i havent seen one complaint on the internet about them, have u?
where can i purchase the aromed? and even thoughy vapzilla won the awards can mean it's still not that good? which one would u perfer vapezilla or aromed?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaywoo
dude vapes are sick and all but theres something you have to understand. your throwing away most of the smoking lifestyle. no more fat bong rips, no more everlasting cherries, no more milky white hotboxes, its just a machine, and vapor. you have to decide if its worth it.
Get a Volcano. They are around $550 on ebay but well worth it...I've tried one and I am saving up for one. I am going straight for the best!
But yeah..Im sure I will still hit the bong too, but I want to get used to vaporizing more.
I absolutely agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Fan o KmK
you've heard good things about the volcano?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1234abcd
yeah, IMO the top vaporizer out there. There is another one that is expensive 600+, but I forgot the name..Im going for the Volcano! It blows up this bag, then you make an O with your fist and inhale, the fresh aroma of your herbs...and smooth ass taste, no coughing and shit..Im just getting really sick of coughing and I want to smoke in my room...vaporizing smells like air..no smoke..but its DEF a different high..thats why Im still gonna keep my bong, and probably take a rip or two a day , because we all know nothing gets us high than that water bong!
what kind of different high does vape give vs bong/pipe?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1234abcd
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaywoo
This dude explains it best, I have'nt even' vaped that much, because I can never afford to buy a damn good one, and always buying bud instead. BUT go for the best, and it'll save your lungs and you can have it for the rest of your life, ESP a good one like VOLCANO. LOL I like work for volcano it seems like ,but I just fucking love their product, esp. the 2006 model.
I've only used the volcano once, and it was far superior to anything I've used in the past. I only smoke top quality shit, so I would love to taste the flavor more of smoking it, and not tasting all the aromas I can be, plus you can absorb a ton of THC , and its a healthier high than using a bong, but I just took two bong rips, some kush and purple, man Im baked..I dont think I'll ever stop using the bong, but I will cut back, like 2 rips a day, instead of 9.
Its a totally different high, alot weaker in my opinion, well compared to bongs, I dont used pipes that often because I find them to be fucking harsh , and they dont get me NEAR as high as my 2 ft water bongQuote:
Originally Posted by GetBakedOrDieTryin
But I guess if you get a good one, have a nice few sessions in your room, you will probably be baked out of your mother fucking mind...I think Vaporizing helps you get the most THC out of your bud. Hey can you vaporize hash???
I thought that the vapes had a pretty low efficiency rating, there was an article I read. Maybe I'm wrong.
I read that article too but I think that was pretty old and they were using the older BC Vaporizer style conduction vaps. A convection vap, where hot air is pulled through the weed, seems to be very efficient from what I have seen I use a Vapor Brothers vap and it works great. I end up using a lot less weed with it than if I were smoking so I assume it is more efficient than smoking.
The key is to get a good vap. Forget anything under $100. They're all crap.
I have found one place in the usa that sells the AroMed, and that is vaposcience.com, or a search on the internet can reveal others as well, but i dont think they are here in the usa, as far as Vaporizers that use balloons i would caution further consideration simply because the balloons' inner surface absorbs thc never to be replaced.. i tried the balloon experience with a vapir, and it was a disaster for me. wasted lots of vapor swithing from filling one balloon to another... and although the Volcano uses balloons, i havent heard any complaints about it, i personally prefer the AroMed, some may call it a light bulb vaporizer sinse it uses a halogen bulb, but there is no fans, and for me, fans and vaporizers dont mix because if u are inhaling directly from the unit then u have to adjust your inhale speed to match the air flow speed of the fan for the best hit possible, with the AroMed, u can hit it as fast or as slow as u like.. for big fat bowls, i recommend a faster hit than a slower one... and anyone who sais that vaporizing is a weaker hi has never properly vaporized because one can acutally go much farther with a vaporizer in the stone than by smoking... AND THE BURNOUT IS MUCH SMOOTHER! unlike smoke when u feel like crap and just wana sleep or crash...
VOLCANO, you will be extremely satisfied my dealer has one and even with rough handling and daily use its still works amazing, the bag gets kinda sticky from the rez and you have to change it but other than that its matenance free and is the top vape around
I'd never bother buying a vape. It looses the whole smoking part of weed...
It's not fun, not easy to transport, and no sociable.
They're a good idea, and are for some poeple, very good investments, however, i prefer to actually smoke my weed, its nicer, slower and more relaxing.
The way i see it is why bother spending all that on someting when you could spend it on weed?
It doesnt make sense, but its your choise. You'll be throwing away the "fun" element of smoking weed though.
fun? it maybe fun now, but it wont be fun when your lungs are diagnosed with cancer, then maybe the vaporizer would have been cheap no matter the cost... what is so exciting about the smoking experience? when i smoke, the toxic chemicals generated make a person feel dirty, and make my lungs feel dirty, and the burnout is far more harsh, just like smokin is more harsh. i only smoked 1 time sense i got my AroMed and that was because the neighbor invited me over to smoke, so i took tiny hits, i couldnt believe how turned off of smoking i have become,.... TRUE it is more difficult to haul around, but everyone likes to look at it and use it, especially the AroMed because of the brite light that varies in intensity... but so far everyone i have vaporized out i made sure there experience with vaporization was a positive one... all my neighbors were stoned off there butt and we didnt even dust the bowl!
Here is why vaporizing gets confusing to smokers and that is because there is no lung sensation, just flavor at the beginning, and true it comes on slower, and that throws off the smoker, so the typical smoker keeps tokin the vaporizer trying to relate to it, and then as the flavor decreases and i increase the temp then the thc concentration picks up and bings the smoker upside the head.... infact the next few days my neighbors were talking about how loaded they were and it suprised them... now that is the proper vaporization experience
also if a smoker should start vaporizing near the 2nd half of the bowl when the temps are above 400F, then the smoker would feel more to the head than at the beginning. but to the seasoned vaporizist, the vaporization experience is far better than the smoking one, just use the right equipment because vaporizing is detailed and technical, and then its like nature at spring time in your mouth, and instant trip hi in the mountains as the flavor itself stimulates pleasurable sensation of exotic nature flavor stimulates the mind in ways smoke will never do, and then the vaporizing enthusiest continues to sip on the natural essense of wild hemp flavor and realizes that his lungs feel like they are breathing nice clean fresh spring air... how is smoking better than that? hack hack hack? wheeze wheeze?
i have never hit a vape but no matter how good it is, i would never replace the act of smoking. there is nothing better then puffin on a fat blunt you just rolled...mmmmm....bluntsssss
chaywoo Dont worry, Im with you, if people want to smoke and not vaporize, who cares, dont say they are gonna die from cancer and shit...fuck there has been not one death associated with smoking marijuana alone, and people have been smoking weed for fucking centuries.
And fuck, you dont have to JUST vaporize, or JUST smoke,,,fuck do BOTH. That is what Im gonna do, and Im not gonna bother even trying to vaporize anymore till I can get my volcano. I found a place that sells them for $400. Hell yeah..Im saving up..then Im gonna have the best of both worlds...my Volcano and 2 foot bong for my evening 420 sessions. I know nothing will get me as high as two fatty bong rips of that kush!
hahaha, well i think once u get the valcano, and if it is as good as u say, then i think once u learn how to best and properly use it, then maybe u wont smoke anymore.. thats how it is with me, i have my AroMed right here next to my desk, so all i do is turn it on, and simply puff, i dont have to deal with balloons, or anything else, just push the button and about 15 to 30 seconds later the unit is ready, and away i go, sipping my hemp... about the cancer thing, the act of burning generates chemicals that are not part of or have anything to do with the hemp itself and have shown to be related to increased cancer risk, i guess its one of those things that if u say nothing, then u are despised when it is too late, and if u say something, then u are despised for saying something too soon.. nevertheless, to each there own as long as we all consider that we will die one day, do we want that day to come sooner or later? I have nothing against smokin, i just dont like it anymore, to me its like the difference between clean and dirty drinking water, once i tasted the clean filtered water, i didnt want the dirty water, but that is just me and my own personal preference, and i think 1234abc that u are making a very good decision by saving up for a quality vaporizer.. but i do suggest to really take a good look at the AroMed... u loose plenty of thc to the inside surface area of the balloon, never to be seen again, and then u have to deal with those dang balloons, but as long as u are happy with it, and u feel u will be, then i say VAPE ON! dooooooooooooooood
I like the look of the volcano better, but reguardless they are still both top vaporizers..They are over 400! And you can get more of those balloons, and they just arn't a balloon, they have a piece on it, works out pretty cool..Im goig to have like 5 of them..so I can keep switchin them
super! maybe you can give us a review, because i hear so much about how the volcano, yet, i really dont see reviews, but who knows, maybe after i found out that it had a fan and used balloons, i wasnt really looking for reviews, but i am curious about its theory of operation,... i just found out from AroMed, that u can do hash in it starting at 410F...
anybody here ever used a vapezilla?
yes go with the volcano for sure, the bag has a mouthpeice that you have to push in to have air flow so that while you arent hitting it the vapour doesnt escape. You get a full bag of vapour off like .3, i doubt your losing THAT much THC to the inside of the bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1234abcd
I have never met anyone who didnt love the volcano, Accept my friends hippy dad who only smokes Js cause he says it gets him to high.
I have vaporizer experience...I bought the volcanco vaporizer about four years ago I believe with a bunch of people. the only problem was that I didnt know enough about marijuana or smoking as I do today to actually remember anything worth telling. at the time, we paid 500 dollars and thought that It was thegreatest thing. But now that I look back on it, it DID ruin the process of smoking, especially since vaporizing took about 5 minutes to get hammared, no matter how many people were present. Something i DO remember though is that it probably is a cleaner high feeling....but stick with normal smoking.
why do people care about smoking? does smoking make u more higher or something?
what does vape do that smoking can't? does smoking make u feel more stoned or no?something? it would seem odd to me for smoke to make u higher then vape overall in a way. Anyways sorry if i cam spelling strange... i'm fairly baked right nowzie.Quote:
Originally Posted by GetBakedOrDieTryin
i probably was accidently rude, and didn't make no sensez... too lazy.. to.... change post..... ingenious i say!!! i didn't mean for the post to be rude sorriez!
doooooood, the only difference between the smoking and vaporizing is the chemical intake... with a vaporizer u only inhale the essential hemp, when u smoke it, u are also becoming affected by the toxic chemicals causing the haze part of the stone... u can get much more stoned with a vaporizer than u can with smoking and that is because the haze part of the stone associated with smoking will eventually over take the hemp stone and sit your butt down, but with the vaporizer, the stone is pure with none of the toxic elements that cause the haze or close your eyes part of the stone, and is much cleaner because your body doesnt have to immediatly deal with hardcore toxic chemicals as well as the hemp... if u live somewhere near bonney lake in washington state, i will bring my vaporizer and show u what its all about...
fuck yeah...I saved up and Im gonna get my volcano on Friday. I fucking can't wait. Im gonna be sooooo baked like chaywoo. The pure high, without the toxic smoke :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
so smoking doesn't do anything mentally different to u then vape? ahhh shit... talking about this makes me wanna get high, i gotta go get high guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaywoo
congratulations 1234! i am having such a good time with my vaporizer that i dont smoke at all anymore, infact, i hate smoking now... i get so loaded from the vaporizer that i cant even finish a bowl in one sitting.. and yes "getbaked.." smoking does do something mentally different, its called muddy water, u cant see through it too easily... infact if u want to really know exactly which part of the stone specifically is from the smoke here is what u do.... vaporize some bud until it is brown and therefore finished, then when u are completely sober, smoke the brown weed from the vaporizer, and the experience u obtain will be at least 90% toxic smoke high, and that feeling is from the act of smoking and burning and then inhaling it minus the actual hemp
Whats up everyone! Enjoying the vaporizer discussion. I have the BC Vaporizer, it seems to me like it wastes a lot of weed for not so much high??? Anyone else have experiences like this with the BC Vaporizer?? I prefer Bonghits obviously, but when i do get high from the BC, i notice its a little bit of a differant high, what are your opinions on it? Thanks again and keep smokin!!!
ya, the BC (Bad Crap) vaporizer sucks, infact if it has a brass bowl in changes chemical structure...u will waste away all your weed with that thing... unfortunatly there is so much trashy vaporizers out there, I havent heard of any consistant good vaporizer for less than 400$.. in my opinion, the AroMed is the best choice for a vaporizer, it has no fans (less things to break down) and u control your own air speed with the same results.. its the no BS vaporizer, no dang balloons either.. VAPE ON!
I swear chaywoo works for aromed..but thats cool that you like it so much..LOL
yea except for the fact that there has never been a single documented case of lung cancer as a direct result of smoking weed.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaywoo
wow that quote is smooth, and ok, maybe smoking isnt harmful in anyway,... It is good news to hear that there has never been any lung cancer cases reported... i didnt know that, thanks.... and now to the AroMed... why waste thc in the balloons never to be seen again, when u can loose a little bit in the water filter and get lit... i did that today, but i only took one sip and i was nice and gave some to the other guys and it was a sip of perfect hemp tea and 30 mins later, after i was finished with the vaporizer and hanin out with the neighbors, i found my stone continuing to take me to lift off because the hemp tea and only one sip coz i shared so the others could taste it and have a sip too... but next time, is all for me only, i think i will run about .5 ounce through it and drink it all... and i will sit in my sit and take off, what a nice additional bonus compared to a balloon that maybe u can cut apart and lick the inside... I dont work for any of these vaporizer companies, i respond out of my frustration with crapy vaporizers that ripped me off making big claims and no delivery of consistancy, 275$ in the trash when i could have bought this one from the start..... so i do have some motivation to sound the alarm to the hemp community because most vaporizers out there are crap...
so if u want a no bull vaporizer, get the AroMed... I just used it today outside in about 45F weather, with 4 other people besides myself, and the AroMed worked just like it did inside the house, where the ambient temps are 67F roughly... and then that wonderful hemp tea... wow but some still want a balloon instead of hemp tea? meohmy? hello? I wish I would have had this information before i bought the first vaporizer...