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I just started out again with 12 PP in my cabinette. I´ll make my choice of 6 of them that I´ll bloom.
I won´t give them any nutrient during VEG with the exception of root nutrient and mycorhizza fungi. They´re in VEG for 3 days now. I´ll have a 2 week VEG.
These are my EC and PH meters..
I´l leave the PH during the entire VEG on 6.0 and the entire BLOOM on 5.6. In the VEG i won´t measure the EC, just in the BLOOM fase. I´ll keep it on 1.9 untill the 9th week blooming. after the 9th week I´ll drop down the EC too 0.9 for the taste.
I also add Mycorhizza fungi too the soil before planting them in the big pots, that give the fungi the chance to grow. It helps the plants a lot.
These are the pots I´m gonna put them in. I already made my choice about witch plants I´m gonna grow thru the entire cycle. Maybe you got an idea witch 6 plants I chose. It was pretty obviouse for me, staight from the beginning.
Tomorrow I´m gonna put them in the larger pots.. I´ll make pics
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Just wanted to give you an update of day 6. Planning was to place the plants in other pots, but I decided to wait untill I´m sure about the Mycorhizza colony is up to size in the bigger pots. I think i´ll do the switcheroo tuesday...
Be free to give any comments or critisism
Oh yeah.. These are the 6 @ day 6, I chose to go furter with, the rest i chucked away.
They look pretty healthy execpt for the purple stems because of the temperature problem I can´t solve. I have my cabinette in the attic and it get cold there when the lights are off. The temperature differance in day and night time is too big, and I can´t place heating up there because of shitty isolation of the attic. Oh well, I´ll think of something... idea´s are always welcome.
Looks good huh those 7 vinger leaves..?!
I use a mixture of rootstimulator and enzymes now cause there are still enough nutrients in the soil for another 2 weeks or so. I think I´ll start with the additional nutrients next saturday.
EC is 0.9 and PH is 5.8
A couple questions...
What type of light are you using (for veg).
Why the decision to veg for only 2 weeks?
I have never seen so many nodes in 3 days, do you think it is the rooting enzyme that is responsible for that?
Otherwise, I think they look great... how tall are they?
JPG
I use my 2 600W HPS light for veg as for blossoming.
I decided for a 2 to 3 week veg because they'll grow a lot more in the pre-blossoming fase with that amount of power.
I added some CO² tablets too the water for additional nodes, my objective is a not too tall, wide and strong plant.
They're not that tall yet, they're about 25 cm now. Next watering I'm giving them water from the bottom of the pot. The roots have grown enough for that now.
Untill now I've done one thing wrong. I set the plants on a high nutrient soilwhen they were small, so the plants are a little light green and recouperating now.
25cm, that is nearly 11 inches in 8 days.
More than an inch per day.
That is astonishing growth for little seedlings barely a week old.
Are these clones?
Yeah, these are cuttings from a motherplant I grew from seed... what did you think, from seed too 11 inches in 8 days, I wish ;)
All the way in the top of the thread is a pic of a plant 3 days old, they´ve grown a lot in 5 days.
yeah,
generally when you are growing clones you dont say they are "3 days old", because in reality they arent 3 days old. They are the age of the mother plant you took them from, not the number of days since you have cut or planted them. Its just very misleading. Also you if you are doing a grow log you should probably state that they are clones because it isnt so obvious sometimes.
That also explains why you are only vegging them for 2-3weeks, they have probably already been vegging for at least that long on the motherplant.
Nonetheless they look very good and very healthy. I veg with HPS too and I love seeing their growth explode when you switch them to 12/12... that red spectrum light kicks in and the plants go crazy. Goodluck and keep us all posted.
JPG
Yeah your maybe right about that. Its very obvious here, cause everybody grows with clones here because of the legalisation.
10 days
Next saturday I'm gonna set the timers at 12/12 and build it up too 13.5/10.5 thoughout the blooming. I'm at work right now and I can't wait to get home too look at my ladies. They're really exploding in size the last couple of days, every day is another suprize. They're still growing on nothing but soil, that's because the mycorhizza fungi I used grows best in low nutrient soil and takes all the nutrients out of that soil.
The plant in the far left corner is a bit slow but I'm absolutly not worried about it cause she looks awsome.
I started giving water from the bottom of the pot. They sucked it all up in about 45 minutes. That's fucking incredible for those small baby's don't you think?
Blossoming is the next step and I'm really gonna push these baby's to the limit. The temperature differance problem is slightly less now cause it's getting warmer outside and in the attic aswell.
I put some soil in PH6.0 water and left it in the fridge. Tomorrow I'll filter it through a coffy filter and measure again to determine the PH of the soil and if it needs altering or not.
I'll keep you guys updated with text and pics.
I tried this system out again because I´m too lazy to give them water every day. It´s a simple pump with a one way valve and a PE hose connected to little pe hoses with drippers on the end. Timer on the pump and aquarium heater in the water reservoir and you´re ready to go.
14 days
britewire, nice looking plants man. I am looking into the PP for later this year. Question (a few actually,) does the bottle of Pirahna list the specific fungi and other organisms? If so, would you please list them? I would like to compare it to another product before I buy buy it. Btw, how much did you pay for your Advanced Nutrients products?
Fermentnation :dance:
Here you go... a lot more info than on the website...
i´ve payed 39 euro´s for it.. but it´s 40 USD at that website
http://progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=1106
Just to clearify I made a small list of what I used to build this cabinette and witch products I use for ferilisation.
Hardware:
1 KETER cabinet
2 600W SON TE+ philips HPS lights (95.000 Lumen each)
2 Cooltube armatures with mirrors.
1 160m³/h carbon filter
1 150m³/h air circulation pump (connected to the carbon filter)
1 100m³/h fresh air intake
1 Waterpump connected to a PE hose with little tubes attached for the drippers.
3 Timers (1 for lights, 1 for Air intake and 1 for the pump (dripper system)
6 20 liter pots
3 water collection bins for under the pots
Nutrients and stuff:
5 liters Canna terraflores
1 liter pk13/14
1 liter Canna Enzymes
1 liter PH minus (Phosforic adic)
1 liter PH+
500 grams of Advanced Nutrients PIRANHA beneficial fungi (Mycorhizza)
100 Liters of PLAGRON soil
20 liters of PLAGRON LIGHT soil
1 Liter of vitamine B and Folium acid (root stimulator)
1 Liter Advanced Nutrients VOODOO JUICE (bacterial mix)
They´re a bit slow cause of the cold weather outside I can´t warm up the room they´re growing in at night.
Going good... got my temps in order and they´re really responding to the stability f temperature now.
14 days veg, 10 days bloom
very nice britewire and thats a nice setup too
good luck m8 :)
Thanks alot, I´ve been waiting for some reply´s. If anybody has some questions about growing on soil or hydro just go ahead. I´m eagre to answer them.
Below some Powerplant x White Widdow I grew using this methode (only a bit lower EC values), I harvested about 0.9 grams per Watt with those plants.
ok i have a Q I have been growing under 6 , 4 foot flo tubes my plants r a foot tall and I got a deal on a 400 w mh fixture and bulb , couldnt pass it up , I know a HPS is the BEST for flowering but I CAN NOT afford one with in the next 3 weeks... will they still bud under the MH til I get a Conversion bulb for HPS ?
:D :rasta: :)if you change ya light cycle to 12/12 the plant will start flowering no matter what light ya have it under but a red spectrum bulb is best as it produces better results and better budQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueDragonSmoke
personly it will only be for 3 weeks untill ya get a red spectrum bulb so i cant see any probs
cheers hope this helps
good luck m8 :) :D :)
The flowering process will go a bit slower with less red spectrum in the light so you gotta be very carefull you don't have any light leaking into your room during the dark period. An thing to look out for aswell while having a difficult time flowering (12/12), is that your temps aren't too low when the lights are off for 12 hours. That can slow down the process of making homones for blossoming severely.
They´re really taking off now. I think I see some flowers coming.
finally blossom.
I think you are just wasting energy, by using 1200 watts for only six plants.
Bud any way, it looks good.
woww, looks like you for suer got ur shit down :) ill be watching
maybe a good question wil pop into my head to.. who knows,,, :rasta:
oh ya i got one... what are the demensions of that room you're growing in
Dimentions of the room are 2.2m high, 1.6m wide and 1.10m deep.Quote:
oh ya i got one... what are the demensions of that room you're growing in
Well, I have better results with 6 plants under 1200w compared to 24 plants under 1200w. I get about 0.8 gramms per watt on 24 plants and about 0.9 gramms per watt on 6 plants. I think it's because the plant has more room and it's more natural.Quote:
I think you are just wasting energy, by using 1200 watts for only six plants
This week I´m smuggling 15 minutes extra every time I water (every three days.)
Look at the ladies, they look absolutly fine on a EC of 2.2. This week I´m building to a EC of 2.4.
feedback please?
Going good.. I think I'll get more than 600 grams this time.
nice job,.. i like the cool tube lites too.
:)
Cali
damn those babies are looking awsome. I cant wait to see what your nuggets look like when they get chopped. seeing work like this inspires since im trying my first grow.
New pics..
35 days flowering now with some small leaf problems. The PH buffer is gone so I added some chalk to the soil. The soils ph was 5.3 and gone up too 6.3 again.. so that's okay again.