do any of you believe in god and that crap? because obviously i dont.
i believe that the whole religion and god movement began long ago, and was started by sum1 who wanted to change the world into a better place, which didnt happen. sad.
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do any of you believe in god and that crap? because obviously i dont.
i believe that the whole religion and god movement began long ago, and was started by sum1 who wanted to change the world into a better place, which didnt happen. sad.
1. wrong forum
2. god does exist because you'll burn in hell if you question his holy word.
3. In Flames and Slayer sound sweet when stoned.
It's the lounge. It doesn't matter what the topic is, he can talk about it here.
I do not believe in a god, but to say that the world wasn't changed into a better place because of religion isn't correct. I mean sure, we have violence and pain and all that, but imagine how many lives have been touched by this "religion" in mission work, serving, fellowship, etc.
lmao.....yeaQuote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
I dont know if he exists.....but Jesus is quite a good role model....the bible was quite a good idea though (good point hempamasta!) it has made so many peoples lives whole...
I don't belive in god the way it's depicted in the christian religion but I belive in a higher power.
wrong forum..
Many theologists believe that religion started when language was created, personalizing the sky, the trees, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameron123240
No one invented the toilet seat. That dumb piece of shit retention center.
One more thing, this isn't the wrong forum because he put "and stuff". Whatever that means.
READ AND TAKE NOTES:
GOD DIDNT MAKE MAN. MAN MADE GOD.
come on homie.how can you not believe in something.do you believe in good and evil.you have to know that there is evil in the world.what about those crazy thoughts that come in to your head sometimes for no reason.where do they come from?.
i used to think like you but i had a moment of realization and theres no turning back !
I think whoscarl is probably right. God is likely a (natural) creation of our minds. Worship of God can bring about physical and mental changes akin to those of drugs. Quite simply, God is addictive - its spiritually uplifiting, it makes people feel secure and meaningful - gives life purpose (also gives insights into the infinite, the 'beyond.')
Unfortunately it also drives people to kill each other, start wars, and force their beliefs upon 'primitive' peoples.
religion causes war, anger, and misconceptons. People who can never take credit for doing something and have to credit their make-believe friend "god" in my opinion are very disturbed sad people.
i agree with whos carl. in the bible it says god created man in his own image, but its the othe way around, man created god in there own image.
Lets cause some religious hatred.
yeah but there is no proof for any of your theories....
infact there isn't really any proof in the world.
.....the thing i dont get is.....
Jesus was God in human form right?
God said that he would not proove himself because proof denies faith....yea?
so surly Jesus was proof of God.....proof that god exists?....which in turn kinda destroyed faith....(my idea splits here!)
Idea 1:resulting in no man even reaching the gates of heaven again because no one has faith...
Idea 2:Jesus didnt actually give proof of god....he gave evidence towards it....but never proof.
......lol
Also how did Mary get pregnant. She was either a whore OR there is something fishy around here and I am not talking about the feeding of the 5 thousand.
Evil is a creation of our own minds. Evil people are wanna-bes. They just think they're evil and create actions for proof.
proof of what?Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
there is no proof that there is evil in the world at anyone time.....none.....
you could suggest that there are a lot of evil people doing evil things right now.....but there is no proof.
im kinda losing myself in this.....so.....
i also believe in a higher power.....or one energy source...maybe water?...maybe carbon?....electricity?.....who knows....but not the christian god.....i also belive in good and evil...cause i believe in karma....so good and evil are opposites for me....evil people dont get good things happening to them.....maybe they do in life....but maybe not out of life.
I am bored.
Proof that they can achieve evil, such as, killing their spouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Az.
me too....im stuck on prince of persia....:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Whos Carl
i believe that all the religions of the world are right in a sense because they are all reffering to the same god. 2 not believe that there is some kinda higher power, some kinda universal force is, to me, being blind.
in the same sense, i think its correct 2 say that we, in some way, give god form.
religion is only stupid when ppl take it too far.
yea that isnt really very nice is it......im lost in this thread now....dont really know what to say.....so its probly best to say nothing...lol....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
God is a little three-lettered word. It could mean dog if you spelled it backwards. All of THIS and THAT and the SuperUnKowN cannot be contained in a little three-lettered word. There's more to the picture...than meets the eye...
Hey Hey
My My
=)
there is no such thing as god
How about Fibonacci numbers and the Golden Ratio? Gravity? DNA? Solids, liguids, gases? Astronomical units? The chaos theory?
There's alot going on around us. And we're on a insignificant planet travelling around an insignificant star off in the corner of some insignificant galaxy?
too much thinking
This debate could put more pages in a book then the bible HAS.
This is why I'm Agnostic.Bible thumpers spend to much time believing there is a god, and Athiests spend to much time believing there isn't.
I don't give a fuck and I'll find out when I die.
Yes, I believe in some kind of higher power. I believe that pretty much all of these religeons believe in the same God, and that he may have sent a prophet or version of himself to them in some form that they would understand in their current state. I know that the bible is not completely true because of mistranslations ect....but it is still a good guide book,Quote:
Originally Posted by Brey
Now about Science.... Personally I love science, and have become part of the whole evolution question.
hmmm...evolution...the big bang..all of that does require just as much faith as believing in God. For evolution there should be several "missing link" species which scientist are scrambling to find...even from around the Cambrien Period.
Also the big bang would break a few laws of physics.
But...if science did come up and straght up proove all of this to me someday, I would have no problem believing it. God could have been responsible for that...he is an omnipotent force and it is beyond me to wonder how it happened.
By the way...I have always wondered when high...about our misconception of time. Because it should be impossible for something to always exist right? What was before God... or the Big Bang...How could there have been particles and molecules...how is it possible for them to always to have existed? The only possible solution as I see it is we are not advanced enough to understand the true working of this universe...
Finally...Damn ...I wrote a fu*king book...
My final question is ...why is it that people have to insult christians or people of other religeons?
I personally have no problems with atheist or people of other religeous affiliations, and it seems that sometime others (including people on here) are just trying to make hate....
Later
SG
i believe in king kong, fo real
I believe that the reality you're subjected to is a reflection of your state of mind or headspace.
:upsidedow
Yeah....we see the real world once we get unjacked from..... THE MATRIX!Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
:rasta: :) :D
seriously though...interesting thought.
You made me!!! I'm silencing myself, also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Az.
Often times "persecution" to a Christian means someone not totally and unwaveringly accepting their point of view. Discussion and debate are "insulting" because "biblical fact" says there should be no discussion and debate. (i.e "To deny the uniqueness of God, is to deny all that is written", etc, etc, etc...)Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGuy
I broke my silence.
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy...se/b_bang.html
The Big Bang Theory is the dominant scientific theory about the origin of the universe. According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in all directions.
In 1927, the Belgian priest Georges Lemaître was the first to propose that the universe began with the explosion of a primeval atom. His proposal came after observing the red shift in distant nebulas by astronomers to a model of the universe based on relativity. Years later, Edwin Hubble found experimental evidence to help justify Lemaître's theory. He found that distant galaxies in every direction are going away from us with speeds proportional to their distance.
The big bang was initially suggested because it explains why distant galaxies are traveling away from us at great speeds. The theory also predicts the existence of cosmic background radiation (the glow left over from the explosion itself). The Big Bang Theory received its strongest confirmation when this radiation was discovered in 1964 by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, who later won the Nobel Prize for this discovery.
Although the Big Bang Theory is widely accepted, it probably will never be proved; consequentially, leaving a number of tough, unanswered questions.
frankly I'm growing tired of people saying "science/evolution/big-bang requires the same faith that creationism does". bullshit, there's a BIG difference. any leading scientific theory, whether or not it's complete, is still based on a certain amount of evidence. intelligent design/creationism isn't based on evidence, it's based on other theories lack of evidence.
If I just had a nickle for every time somebody started an argument for "proof" with "well how do you explain.....". doesn't matter how people explain it, doesn't matter if they can. just because you can't explain it doesn't give god the credit by default. creationism is only possible when you present a hypothesis as a fact. IE:
Question: where did life come from?
Bob: evolution. here's my reasons why, here's the evidence we have so far.
Jim: god. my reason being that evolution is wrong here, here, and here, so it can't work.
which of course is just silly because the failure of one hypothesis does not validate the other.
interesting, extremely thoughtful replies, alas, please excuse my sumwhat "Blunt" (-no pun intended,) and "Very Forward" post, this is actually a somewhat semi interesting topic to discuss, and i agree with whoever said about it making people feel secure and so on.
hmm.
Most likely when you do die, you turn into a marijuana plant, and hapiness and relaxation get spread to those who smoke you. Yay!
Quote:
Originally Posted by cameron123240
damn, I like that idea. in fact, maybe I'll have my body turned into fertilizer for pot plants! :)
if there is a god, why is there so many suffering in this world? why was i homless for such a long time? why does most things happen?
if there was a loving caring god out there, there would not be any anger or suffering in this fucking world we call earth......
GOD HATES US ALL!
I dont know about God per say, but if christianity was so wonderful, why did they have to kill people to make the so called masses come to them? Why are christians the most Intolerant group of religious freaks? It was Shakespear that said 'To thine ownself be true', The bible is so full of contradictions that the truth gets lost.
A good guide for life is to 'do as you will, but harm none'. I wont live my life afraid of retribution from such a "loving" god.
Blessed Be