Over night, the ends of the leaves turned yellow. WHATS WRONG!? I moved the lights further away. Will this fix the problem?
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Over night, the ends of the leaves turned yellow. WHATS WRONG!? I moved the lights further away. Will this fix the problem?
I am so tired of people posting for help when they provide no info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam
What ferts are you using? what strength? how often? ratio(npk)? How old are the plants?
Tell us something, anything about your grow, then we can help.
"My stomach hurts, why?" If you told a doctor that, think he could tell you?
whats npk? and i thought ur not supposed to use ferts until appx. 3 weeks into the growing process..
Anytime you take on any endevour you should have some preliminary research done. NPK is one of the most basic and absolute concepts one needs to know even at the most amatuer levels. N-P-K is a ratio of the three most essential nutients all plants need to sustain life. Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potasium(K can be a confusing connection to make, but you cant have two P's). Get a book or you'll rely on this site way to heavily and be held up in your endeavor. And yes, soil contains enough nutes for 2-4 weeks generally speaking. Don't get dicouraged, just give more of your own intiative to obtain some basic knowledge on your own. This site is very helpful and many members give alot of their time to help eachother out.
Peace,
Snow Owl
yah man have to give us that kinda info
i thinkl u should just move the light away and put it where the beam is at angle\, move the pot away from it about inches or so and then see what happens.
Or you could not and just let it sm0ke it self.
that was my general idea.. attached is a drawout of my current plan in my grow drawer.. having the light contained somewhere else so tha the direct heat wouldn't attack my plants..Quote:
move the light away and put it where the beam is at angle
i wasn't thinking about applying it to the grow box until Cam's err occurred.. however when i make my growbox my plants (hopefully if they friggin grow) will come to size and strength and be able to handle it.. u definitely got me thinking now..
i downloaded a big bunch of guides so i'll be looking into that.. i'll post'm up later when i get home..
I noticed this site doesn't have any FAQ's. I go to:
www.overgrow.com
I have learned everything that I need to grow from that site. Check the FAQ's there. They have a mountain of good, reliable info.
And no, you aren't suppose to use ferts until about 3-4 weeks in, that's why I was asking. How old are your plants? Sorry if you said already, I missed it. If your plant is 3-4 into the veg cycle, and you said you haven't givin it any ferts yet, that's what it probably needs. I'll update and look for your pics later. Peace.
they're a few days old
Hey sorry it took me so long to reply. No, my babies are just babies- 3 days old, maybe 4. They have their first actual pot looking leaves, and the ends turned kinda yellow, but they arn't dried. I'm growing bag weed, I'm guessing the weed is High Midies, the shit I smoked wasn't bad. I have 1 50 or so watt Compact Fluro, it was the highest wat I could find, and then a 15 watt fluro I found around the house. They were really close to the plant, I made it so they were. I bet you that was the problem... too close. I backed the light away now so that its about 2-3 maybe even 4 inches away and they are still getting plenty of light. No fert yet.
I was just at your other thread there, you said you have MG soil. To me, it sounds like there IS added ferts in that soil. The tips are browning/burning already? Sounds like unneeded ferts are burning your plants up. Look again on the bag to see if it does have added ferts, if not, I have no clue what to tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam
what are we supposed to look for?
The soild does have MG added fert to it. only 1 of the plants has some bad tips, then the other has a spot... then two other plants look perfect. So I have 4 plants growing in this soil. Will they be ok? Can they toug it out until they are older and actually use the fert?
The soild does have MG added fert to it. only 1 of the plants has some bad tips, then the other has a spot... then two other plants look perfect. So I have 4 plants growing in this soil. Will they be ok? Can they tough it out until they are older and actually use the fert? They are getting pretty big pretty fast...
Well, if the other 2 look fine, and the other one isn't so bad, I would just leave it. As long as its progress doesn't get worse, like it continuing to burn up, then just leave it. Good luck!
Ok cool thanks. Oh and another thing... (don't feel like starting a new thread)... Since I don't have two boxes to grow in... all 4 plants are in one box... some of them are going to be male I know it. Is there any chances to tell durring veg? Or only durring flowering? I don't want it to be to late. If I take them out before the male flower-pollen things open up, will I be safe?
Yes, there is a way to tell during veg, but not until it is a mature, well developed plant. I'm guessing, around 50-60days into vegging. The plant will have pre-mature hairs showing. I, on the other hand, find it very hard to decifer between a male and female pre-hairs, so I always wait until the first 2 weeks of flowering are over before I know for sure.
Yes, if you take the males out before they blow their loads, then your other plants will be safe. You don't have to worry though, the male plant has to be very developed before it spreads its pollen. At that time you will know for sure whether it's a male or female.
What kind of ferts should I use once my plant is old enough to receive? Can I use MG? Or can that cause fert burns? What do you use nocho?
Well, once your plant is old enough to handle ferts, with is usually after 3-4 of growth, you want something that is high in N(N-P-K). When you go out and look for ferts, all of them will most likely have 3 numbers on the packaging. The three numbers stand N-P-K. I use 8-7-6 Shultz plant food. Now, it all comes down to a personal pref. for what kind of food you want to use, you'll have to fine tune it. But that is what I use. You could go with something like 10-0-5 or something along those lines. When you first start giving your plant its food, I suggest starting at a very low dose at first. You'll have to read the mixing instructions on the packaging when you have it, but what it suggests for feeding, start with 1/4 strength, then slowly, but surely, start boosting it every few feedings or so. 1/4-1/2-3/4-4/4(full) That's how I do it anyways. I feel it is better to give the plant less food than too much. You give it too much, you'll burn up your plant, slowing growth, and cutting yeilds big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam
When it comes to brands, you can use any kind you want. MG is okay if you just want to start learning and all, but when you start getting into it, stay away from it. It's nasty stuff and is not really made for growing the sticky stuff. It will work, but not to its full potential like other ferts. Try and get a liquid fert at first. If you get a crystal or powder fert, you may risk burning your plant up. But if you cannot find a liquid food, no big deal. You just have to be very careful using crystal/powder food so early in its life.
Any food can cause burning if overfed. Like I said, it's better to give to little than too much. You must be cautious at feeding at first. You don't want your plant to start out shitty, or the outcome will be shitty. Hope this helped. peace.
Cam, i'd say to do the cloning idea that the video had.. suggested
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Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou
Hey thanks that did help me a lot really. I'll go to walmart and see what they have to offer. i'll do what you said and start off low strength and then work up to a higher fert. And I'll also give it a little less than what is suggested so I don't burn them. I wouldn't like to burn them... Do the plants become more potent if you keep them in the veg stage for longer? Like, because they're in veg and continue to be in veg for so long they produce more THC?
I wouldn't say they become more potent, but if you let a plant veg longer, lets say 60 days you veg for, the plant will work to its pull potential and produce bigger buds. If you let it veg for only 25 days lets say, the buds won't be as big as the 60days veg. I think either way the buds will be just as potent, the yeild just won't be as big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam
I switch to flowering from veg when my plants are about 10inches high(almost a ft). The plant usually doubles in size by the time it's done, which is usually about 2.5ft or so. If I were to switch to 12/12 when my plant were 3ft tall, then the finishing size will be around 6ft or so. Which is obviously bigger than a 2.5ft tall plant.
But you have to remeber, if you want to keep things small, you want to reach for an indica dom. strain, as they grow small and thick. Whatever height your plant is before you switch to 12/12, the original size it is will double, some even triple from their original size. So if you switch to 12/12 when plat is 5inches tall, the finishing height will be around 10-15inches.
Try and get some soil with NO added ferts in it. I feel a nice, clean soil leaves the option open to give your plant any kind of food you want, and you won't risk killing your plant. Just my thoughts.
Hope this helps.
so lets say i kept it in veg for 120 days.. i'll way more bud??? is that the equation? more days = more bud?Quote:
I wouldn't say they become more potent, but if you let a plant veg longer, lets say 60 days you veg for, the plant will work to its pull potential and produce bigger buds. If you let it veg for only 25 days lets say, the buds won't be as big as the 60days veg. I think either way the buds will be just as potent, the yeild just won't be as big.
I think it's more bigger plant = more buds but generally they grow more the older they get so yeh
You could do that, but it would be hard to maintain, 120days is 4 months, a plant can gorw well over 6ft in that time frame. A plant can only stay in one stage for so lomng before it dies, 120days is too long. A 6ft plant not even in flower yet will give you a finishing height of 12-18ft! That's fine for outdoors, but I don't know how many houses have 12-18ft ceilings.. The thing is, when someone over-vegg's, you get stretched out, lanky, airy buds. In my opinion, I don't find it neccesary to veg more than 60days. Anymore time than that, you're going to have a monster of a plant that will be hard to control, and the buds won't be as compact as some like. They'll be light and wispy. Over-vegging will cause major spacing between each node, and they'll double their spacing by the time flowering hits.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
There are a few ways to increase harvest though. If space, like height, is a problem, you may want to consider a scrog, or LST training. You can also top your plant, that encourages more horizontal growth instead of vertical.
ok.. so its
05 days from germination to seedling stage
25 days from seedling to veg
60 days from veg to flower
60 days from flower to harvest?
appx 5months total?
getting confusion fusion here.
it is interpretation.
here is what WHORE and CUNT are....plain and simple...
popped out of the earth......
Vegged 49 days
flowering 56 days
NEXT GROW...
pop their heads outta the ground...
Veg...21 days
Flower 56 days
If using hydro its important to address the seedling as a stage....but as a plant, with indoor grow.....the minute it sticks her pretty green head outta the earth, its a plant and its vegging.
As far as I interpret.
No no no. I think you're getting the wrong idea. You see, there are thousands and thousands of different kinds of dope. Some are Sativa, some are Indica, some are a mix of the two, some have more than the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
Their called "strains". Some are all Sativa, some indica, some a mix of the two. Sativa dom. strains take longer to finish than indicas. This is hard to explain but...it all comes down to what soil you use, what nutes, and general care of the plant. If a person uses soil or nutes not appropriate for growing MJ, then the growing process will be slowed down big time. If you use proper soil and nutes, things will run more smoothly.
EVERY strain is different, they all take different times to germ, veg and flower. What I'm giving you here is an approximation. Here are a few examples:
My first grow I did, was an Afghan cross, I chose to veg for only 3 weeks, because of my height, it then took 60 more days to finish flowering. So it took approx 85 days(3months) from seed to harvest
Second one I did, I vegged for only 2 weeks, it took only 60days to finish flowering. A total of 2.5months
My last one, I vegged for 3 weeks again, this time it took 77days to finish flowering. A total of about 100days(3+months) to finish.
I used good soil, but not the best ferts. If I had chose to use better ferts, I could have got bigger, more potent buds. It all comes down to what YOU chose to grow with. There is NO set time frame for growing. When it is done, it's done. YOU chose when you want to end vegging, to an extent, but, the plant chooses when it's done flowering. YOU decide when it's time to cut, by inspecting the trichs. If you overfeed your plant by accident, you'd have to flush your plant and allow it to heal from the burn, that will cut down your yeild and you'll lose about 7-10days of growing time. Get it now?
ok.... so minus the 25 days?
Man, did you even read our posts? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
Okay, this is the last time I'm explaining this. Every MJ plant is different due to different strains, and genetics. Your plant is completly different from mine, mine is completly different than Hard-On's, Hard-on's is different from yours. Every MJ plant is different. Although they all produce buds, they are all different. YOU have to decide when you want to stop vegging, YOU watch, monitor your plants behaviour, and decide when it's done flowering. It's all up to YOU. With my plants, no one knows them but ME, with your plants, no one knows them but YOU.
Forget the time limit and numbers. The only thing you need to remeber is this:
The height of your plant at the end of vegging(eg. 5inches), the plants size may double(eg. 10inches), or triple(eg. 15inches) in height by the time it is done flowering
There is no set time limit on growing. It is up to the grower, YOU, to decide when you want to change the cyle to 12/12, and begin flowering. You monitor your plants everyday, keep them in good health, make sure they don't die, let them flower(bud) and then YOU have to inspect the trichs and decide when you want to flower.
Ok... well then I will flower my babies at 5 inches... that would be a perfect size. 10 inches is good for final product. But first I'm going to top it. What would you say is a good plan? Top after 4th node... wait for it to grow 5 inches or so, then flower?
?
Will it grow more branches and shoots if I did a 24/0 week or so and then put it into flower after?
well, i think most breeders recommend a minimum vegetative period of 4-5 weeks prior to flowering if grown in soil.....within that time the average MJ plant has a height of 12-18 inches.....topping, between 4-7th node.....don't veg only for a week.....you need at least 4 weeks of veg for some decent yield in the end....the more plants you have the better i guess.....if you're really in a hurry (sheist) get to grow DOLCE VITA (dutch passion)....it needs only two weeks of 24/0 and then 12/12 for 8.5 weeks, that's pretty fast for a sativa don't you guys think? it's a bit pricey but hey what you pay is what you get....
so wait for APPROXIMATELY 25 days? lol jus messinQuote:
There is no set time limit on growing. It is up to the grower, YOU, to decide when you want to change the cyle to 12/12, and begin flowering.
so there is no 25 days in the question to even wait for..? just kick this bitch into high gear for appx 60 days or so or til it reaches my ideal height, which ever comes first.. and throw into flowering? so if my logic is right, which it probably isnt lol, i should start adding nutes midway into its veg progress.. eh?Quote:
but as a plant, with indoor grow.....the minute it sticks her pretty green head outta the earth, its a plant and its vegging.
now since we're making these sunz of bitchez small and such.. would there really be a significant need to get a HPS lamp? or can we stick with fluros..?
If you want to get any real flower growth, other than scant stem crawlers, you need the color temp the HPS provides.
You can get 2700 K CFLs....
They arent cheap and cost about as much as an HPS......
CFL's would be good for a low, single plant or so small closet grow.
Otherwise go with the HPS.
lol then where's the profit
The profit's in the quality smoke u get ;)Quote:
lol then where's the profit
Yea if you are growing to profit of the cash type....better get a big grow growing....or use the sunlight GOD gave us for free next year :)
was my logic right?
Nope. A plant might take 25 days to grow 5inches, it might take some 35 days to grow 5inches. It all depends on the strain, and general care the grower, you, puts into the plant. It varies significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
Now you got it! Just make sure it doesn't get too big so you run out of room, then throw into flowering. So if you have 24inches(2ft) for total space, then you would want to throw your plant into flowering when it is approx. 10-12inches. eg. My grow space is only about 3ft square, so I switch to flowering when my plants are about 12inches(1ft) tall.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
You're on the right track now. I start giving my plants a low dose of nutes about 3 weeks after growth, from seed. That's about, 3-4 sets of small leaves. So yes, about halfway through, 3 weeks of growth, 3-4 sets of leaves. Not too much though, always start light.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist