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[align=center]Media were made to wear 'London united' tags as the cermony took place behind a banner that read 'One City, One World.'
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[align=center]Conservative MP Michael Ancram and Lib Dem Menzies Campbell are also asked about the Visor drill on the day of the bombing.
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[align=center]Thanks to http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com
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i can't find it on thoughtcrime news anymore...
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/jul...05oneworld.htm
there it is on evil prisonplanet.
[align=left]The 7/7 London Bombings: How to Set Up a Patsy[/align]
[align=left]What Really Happened | July 15 2005[/align]
[align=left]A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.[/align]
[align=left]ITV News interview with Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, and a former Scotland Yard official who worked at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.[/align]
Video of interview - 2.3 MB WMV download
POWER: Today we were running an exercise for a companyâ??bear in mind now that I'm in the private sectorâ??and we sat everybody down in the cityâ??1000 people involved in the whole organizationâ??with the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was it was we based on a scenario of simultaneous attacks on a underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real. And one of the first things is, get that bureau number, when you have a list of people missing, tell them. And it took a long timeâ??
INTERVIEWER: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario?
POWER: Almost precisely. I was up to 2 oclock this morning, because it's our job, my own company. Visor Consultants, we specialize in helping people to get their crisis management response, how you jump from slow time thinking to quick time doing. And we chose a scenario with no assistance, which is based on a terrorist attack because they've been close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen there in the city, and there are more American banks in this city than there are in the whole of New Yorkâ??a logical thing to do.
INTERVIEWER: How extraordinary today must feel for you as it unfolds. You mentioned a few moments ago there our experience with Irish Republican terrorism. And of course it was very different wasn't it because however perverted their behavior, the IRA believed itself to have some sort of code of honour, and tended to issue some kind of warnings, of course they often came too late to do any good.
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I got an email with an interesting rumor going around London that just before the attacks, someone was trying to hire Muslims to play terrorists for a terror drill, to try to sneak onto the trains and buses with fake bombs to test out the security.
We know the terror drill was real. We know they were running the drill at the exact same stations the bombings actually occurred.
We know that the accused bombers don't fit the profile of men ready to die for Allah. Indeed, it is reported that some of them were not particularly religious.
Yet we are faced with the strange claim that these men, one of whom had a new family, and another whose wife was pregnant, carried bombs set on timers and stood there waiting for them explode.
This makes sense ONLY if they thought they were carrying fake bombs as part of a terror drill. This also explains the nervousness of the man on the bus who had probably just heard of the real explosions and was starting to suspect that the fake bomb he was carrying might not be fake after all.
"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!"
im reading the site now.
thanks for the link to a great new site.
alternative media in this country, all of the credible independent journalists out there...get far better ratings than fox and cnn.
infowars gets better daily ratings than bill o'reilly's night time show, and infowars is just ONE SMALL SITE COMPARED TO WHAT'S OUT THERE. but foxnews and cnn have the fancy graphics and backgrounds and packaging and it looks slick. and that's as far as it goes, there's no depth.
the illusion is that most people don't believe what fox and cnn tells them and their ratings are slowly going down, and most people don't care about the pointless topics they get people fixated on and thinking about, while totally avoiding real issues and covering up others.
i work in a tv station...it's easy to see the flow of information and how it works and what gets on air...it's so fake and scripted. and it goes all around the country with the same basic script.
i just want fox to fall...and i want an apology from someone in mainstream media.
a few weeks ago, i watched the new cnn ceo or whatever say he wanted his people to do more storytelling.
worked like a charm.
Such an anti UN isolationist xenophobe. There is a whole planet out there pisshead, go check it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
a whole planet full of people who can control their own lives...and don't need giant bureaucratic world dictatorship to tell them what to do.
London Bombings - Web of Deceit: Peter Power, The Terror Drill, Giuliani and The CIA
Steve Watson | July 16 2005
As we revealed last week, on the very morning of the Bombings, a consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations.
On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch, now Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company.
Power was quoted as saying "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now"
Beyond the unbelievable "coincidence" of this scenario, the very fact that the bombs in the drill were simultaneous is a smoking gun because almost a week went by before it was revealed that the bombs had gone off simultaneously.
The importance of this drill cannot be understated. This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. The two scenarios are comparable in that it is a tried and tested method of navigating around the everyday security services, and, more importantly, if the perpetrators get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in an exercise.
Peter Power has since toned down his claims in further interviews, changing his story of the drill to make it seem less identical to the real attacks. He has also issued a statement via e-mail in response to the thousands of requests he is receiving demanding clarity on the issue, that reemphasizes his backing away from his original "precisely" comment.
It seems that Power may feel he is in too deep and is backing away from the whole incident. This is probably due to the fact that Power himself and his company are not directly involved in the bombings, they have simply been used as a tool in a larger operation.
Power has been hired by the government before and he is always used to release information after terrorist incidents in London.
Two previous examples of this are the March 2001 BBC television center bombing and the September 2000 rocket attack on the MI6 building.
Was Power again used by the government as a conduit for information that would support their official version of events?
Power's comments (below) seem to suggest that his company was somehow involved in the response to the ACTUAL attacks, so if they were not working on behalf of London Underground or the Government then how were they allowed to be actively involved at multiple crime scenes?
In short, our exercise (which involved just a few people as crisis managers actually responding to a simulated series of activities involving, on paper, 1000 staff) quickly became the real thing and the players that morning responded very well indeed to the sudden reality of events.
Power is named among the elite of the Business Continuity (BC) community, he has regularly appeared on the BBC, covering terror incidents, as the "expert" when it comes to managing the crisis. He is also referred to extensively in a working paper on BC issued by the Bank of England, HM Treasury and FSA and has written for the British Bankers Association. His former clients make for interesting reading, they being JP Morgan Chase, ING, Mellon, Lloyds TSB, Morley Fund Management, Bank of New York, Arcadia Group, FCO and Universal Music.
Power has also spent time on the Advisory Board to the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness(CCEP). This is significant due to the fact that a key member of that board was Richard Sheirer, Senior Vice President of Giuliani & Partners. Here they are listed together.
Sheirer was intimately involved along with Guiliani in the "crisis management" on 9/11. Giuliani himself was in London on 7th July after traveling down from Yorkshire from a speaking engagement at the Local Government Association conference in Harrogate, where he received a standing ovation for praising Tony Blair and hyping the war on terror.
Giuliani was also coincidentally only "yards from Liverpool Street station when the bombs went off." and later that day went on several TV networks saying that the crisis management teams (Peter Power's team, or so he would have us believe) seemed like they were expecting the bombing to take place.
Giuliani has met several times with government and police officials in London since 9/11.
CIA connections
The web of deceit extends further and the connections deepen when you take a look at the background of the Commissioner of Transport for London, Bob Kiley. Kiley also has connections with Giuliani.
During his time as President and CEO of the New York City Partnership, the city's leading business and civic organization, Kiley came into contact with Giuliani regularly, and was even backed by Giuliani as a candidate for city schools chancellor. Kiley was also a member of Giuliani's "Mayoral Task Force on Tax Reduction and Restructuring" in 1999. The two are also connected through New York Cityâ??s deputy mayor for economic development and rebuilding (after 9/11), Daniel Doctoroff, whom Kiley introduced to Giuliani.
Kiley was also an advisory to the Mayor's office on traffic management in New York, suggesting "eliminating toll booths and just putting transponders on every car's license plate. That way, motorists would automatically be charged ever time they rode on a heavily traveled bridge or tunnel -- or even a highway or major street -- during a time of peak usage."
Early in his career Kiley was tapped by the CIA and quickly became Manager of Intelligence Operations and then Executive Assistant to the Director. Kiley served under Richard Helms, who was appointed CIA director after JFK was taken out. Helms was the only director to have been convicted of lying to Congress over CIA undercover activities and served time in prison. He was heavily involved in the cover up of the MK ULTRA project. As his Executive Assistant, this means Kiley was also intimately involved.
Kiley is also incidentally a Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. We should be asking ourselves why is this CIA activist and high member of the Establishment, in charge of London's Transport network?
The Establishment have their mits all over this latest staged attrocity, you can carry on probing deeper into the rabbit hole and you always come across the same elite figures and organizations, hiding in every darkened nook and cranny.
It's a certainty that as the weeks and months go by more and more questionable connections will emerge.
Stay Tuned.
let me get this str8Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
u think the goverment did it?
you think scotland yard "bombing thier own"?
or do i misunderstand?
you better watch man they may come and get you
if that is true .
ya think maybe its time to rethink it
nevermind i know the answer
just wanted to say ya never cease to amaze me,
:eek:
you think scotland yard "bombing thier own"?
or do i misunderstand?
i've thought, and i've rethought this, and 9/11, over and over and over and over and over for a few years...
and yes, i have no doubt left.
they're not coming for me, they're deliberately destroying the country and turning it into a dictatorship, under the guise of this war on terrorism.
war on illiteracy, more illiteracy. war on drugs, more drugs. war on terror...these kind of things are designed to fail. they're coming for everyone.
that's why so few have so much wealth and people don't even know anything about them.
Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come.
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come. :eek:
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Originally Posted by pisshead
The UN isnt a dictatorship, i wish they had more power they might be able to free americans from their own government. Every anti UN sentiment is another way you support the iraq occupation by supporting unilateral american action without world consent. The UN isnt the one world government boogeyman
i don't support the war in iraq or any other intervention.
Wouldn't that have been a hell of an attitude during WW2!Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
if you're done ganging up on the lad, you might want to think about the fact that hitler was allowed to build up his power for YEARS before poland was invaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
the U.S. and Britain intentionally let him build up his army so they would have a reason to take him down...problem was he got a little too powerful.
so you can just stop this disengenuous bullshit about lax attitudes during ww2 and spreading freedom.
america aided and abetted saddam and now theyre just reaping the benefits. you guys are so full of shit your breath stinks.
yeah, let's talk about ig farben, and ibm's role in helping hitler kill millions of jews and prescott bush and w. averell harrimon and then only after coming up with the brilliant plan to provoke japan to attack us and allow that attack to place, got into the war...and how our military industrial complex built up hitler and aided and built up russia during the 'cold war'...
and now germany 60 years later is slipping back into their old ways.
it's all the same m.o.
alas, in our complacent society, evil men are allowed by societies themselves to do whatever they please.
it's just a shame i was born during the time of babylon's second fall.
all hail hypocrisy.
all hail
You clearly don't know jack shit about american history....whats wrong? Can't find WW2 on pissplanet? WE built up Hitler...WE provoked Japan to attack us????? There's people in sanitariums with more common sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
When WW2 began we elected to stay out of European affairs. Actually, the U.S. had the 17th ranked military...equal to Yugoslavia. France, Great Britain and Poland watched and suffered later.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
oh,the mccollum memo wasn't in your rewritten history textbook...you had the short version i guess, hitler's like so bad and stuff (ignore ig farben, ibm's role in helping hitler and prescott bush's role with w. averell harriman)...oh my god, japan totally attacked us off guard and stuff...i guess now we have an excuse to enter the war...
end of history class. don't look up the mccollum memo, whatever you do.
it's like if i go over to nich's house...start playing incredibly loud music, start banging on all of his walls...he comes out and tells me to stop, i start spray painting his house and kicking his dog, he finally decks me...i get up and yell, oh my god, did you see him hit me! how dare him!
Pisspants got up on the wrong side of the world again I see. Instead of looking of ways to prove that the U.S. is a bunch of pricks maybe you should dig a little deeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
McCollum Memo:
A. Make an arrangement with Britain for the use of British bases in the Pacific, particularly Singapore.
B. Make an arrangement with Holland for the use of base facilities and acquisition of supplies in the Dutch East Indies [now Indonesia].
C. Give all possible aid to the Chinese government of Chiang Kai-shek.
D. Send a division of long-range heavy cruisers to the Orient, Philippines, or Singapore.
E. Send two divisions of submarines to the Orient.
F. Keep the main strength of the US Fleet, now in the Pacific, in the vicinity of the Hawaiian Islands.
G. Insist that the Dutch refuse to grant Japanese demands for undue economic concessions, particularly oil.
H. Completely embargo all trade with Japan, in collaboration with a similar embargo imposed by the British Empire (Stinnett 8)
http://salc.wsu.edu/fair_s02/fs7/(pearl%20harbor%20group)/mccollum.htm
Now why oh why would we do that to the poor Japaneese?:
Now unrestrained by the recommendations of the League of
Nations, Japan continued itâ??s intrusion onto Chinese soil. By 1937
Japan had moved military forces into Beijing, Shanghai, and Nanjing,
as well as other regions of China. By 1940, Japanese seizure of
territory had spread to deep inside Southeast Asia and even parts of
Australia (Sutel et al). Also in 1940, the Triparte Pact was signed,
allying Japan, Germany, and Italy into a powerful force that stretched
halfway around the planet.
http://www.cyberessays.com/History/169.htm
You also forgot to mention that Henry Ford was also a big supporter of the Nazi Party! But of course the main emphisis should be that Prescott Bush was envolved...RIGHT!
"hitler's like so bad and stuff " You are one sick little bitch!!!
Conflict - I.B.M. & The Holocaust
Patrick Scott investigates the role of IBM in the Nazi Holocaust and also uncovers a link between Nazi money and George W Bush.
http://www.ethicalmatters.co.uk/arti...title=Conflict
The link they talk about is the sins of Prescott Bush. How many people on this forum would like to be held responsible for the sins of your father or grandfather?
Heres another interesting piece from the article:
More facts are coming to light concerning the collaboration between US corporations and the Nazis, a lot of which is now finding its way onto the web, though some web authors on the subject tend to indulge in elaborate conspiracy theories.
I wonder what "web author" pisspants was looking at?
for people who actually want to read the mccollum memo:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/McCollum/
i didn't mention holding george w. bush responsible for the sins of his grandfather or anyone, you did. i mentioned that prescott and his pal w averell knew full well what they was investing in...
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG...NN_Bush_Nazi_2
john buchanan who went digging in the national archives...wrote that for anyone who cares...seizures under the trading with the enemy act, AFTER the war started! who cares.
and you miss my sarcasm...hitler was bad, everyone agrees. but if i watch a serial killer murder a few people, do nothing, and then finally whenever i feel like it say, look at that guy! he's killing...am i not to some degree responsible as well?
Do you remember?
"We may, however, wake up one day lamenting the loss of the order that the Cold War gave to the anarchy of international relations."
for people who actually want to read the mccollum memo:
I'm glad to see that people in our government at the time had the insight to see what was happening! If Germany and Italy gained control of the Atlantic front with Japan having absolute control of the Pacific front we would have been in deep shit!!
i didn't mention holding george w. bush responsible for the sins of his grandfather or anyone, you did. i mentioned that prescott and his pal w averell knew full well what they was investing in...
Damn right they did...right along with Henry Ford and every other anti-semite during that period. THAT'S why the U.S. government set up containment camps that housed many U.S. citizens with affiliation to the Japaneese, Germans, and Italians.
john buchanan who went digging in the national archives...wrote that for anyone who cares...seizures under the trading with the enemy act, AFTER the war started! who cares.
The assets were seized, after the war when the company was liquidated they did aquire their stock option cash out though...looked like a pretty penny for the times.
and you miss my sarcasm...hitler was bad, everyone agrees. but if i watch a serial killer murder a few people, do nothing, and then finally whenever i feel like it say, look at that guy! he's killing...am i not to some degree responsible as well?
Ohhhhh, you mean like if we didn't invade Iraq and let Saddam keep committing genocide on the Kurds and Shi'ites. Seems damn funny how your always out to show what a bunch of dinks we are in the U.S. but you defend scum from overseas. Or are you really for the Iraq war? :confused:
"The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." Adolph Hitler............sorry I mean GW Bush
give me a break...i'm not going to scream about iraq and afghanistan when our country's turning into a dictatorship too...
i think it's worse that there are millions of people here who spend a lot of time defending the scum bags who run this country, no matter which puppet is in office, clinton or bush or his daddy, and who are currently looting it for all it's worth and bringing our status down to third world level. but we're supposed to let that happen because other places in the world are bad. we're all one world now, we have to have world control, world bank, world trade, world health...people deny and accept this loss of sovereignty going on right now...
we've been conditioned to think that national sovereignty and a constitutional republic are outdated...very wrong. a read of the constitution and declaration of independence shows that this kind of thing will always happen.
okay, here's the big lie in my opinion...there is no socialism and fascism...there's command and control who use both sides to achieve one thing. both sides are veiled as two flavors of freedom...when it's the opposite. the world is run by elite families who come from a long line of emperors and kings. we are a modern day empire. that's probably hard for some people to grasp in their mind...it is even for me. we're a modern empire.
there's too much wrong with what's going on in this country run by criminals who know what they're doing to this country, for me to think we're actually bringing freedom to other countries.
Thats the point, The rest of the world will get by...there will be war and peace,money and poverty, life and death.... The US needs to clean its own asshole before it points out that france has a mustard on its nose. Where are the people who think in the US? Have they moved to Canada or what? I live outside the box because I want too, but it really sucks on the day to day basis to walk down the street and know people don't like me because my place of birth is being run by an idiot.
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Originally Posted by pisshead
pisshead why do you bother.
did you notice that collectively me you and others have shown psycho that the attacks on pearl harbour were allowed to happen.
he then tells anyone who posts that to "give him a break"
do you REALLY want to risk carpal tunnel syndrome arguing with a guy that smokes weed and STILL cant open his mind to think outside the box...hell even to think for himself.
sorry psycho, but it would appear that cannabis just isnt for everyone intellectually.
all hail imaginative magical fairy worlds for weak-minded people to escape to when reality requires just a little too much responsibility.
all hail.
i don't think george bush is an idiot. i think he knows he's a figurehead, who serves a different purpose in the minds of those who control the supergovernments of the world than we he does in our groupthink mind. using america to take over the world, while simultaneously destroying our economic base and bringing us down to 3rd world status under the guise of free trade and other global treaties that erode american sovereignty...another big lie is that the same people who are destroying our country champion us as this bastion of ultimate freedom. it's a little scary to see this massive disconnect from reality from so many people.
he has this smirk on his face, sometimes slips into an atlantic accent, saying 'rather' like you'd say 'father'... he knows full well what he's doing. he's a puppet, he has no power. if he were to stray from this plan and start taking actions against the military industrial complex, he'd get done like kennedy did. kennedy really woke up while in office, and even made speeches about this...he subsequently got what was coming to him, with a nice obelisk to mark the globalists' hit.
This line of "intellectual" crap coming from the same man that has McCarther fighting in Vietnam and the Chineese saving the U.S. and allies in WW2. Smoke another one for me! Can't kill what isn't there. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Avoidance is a terrible thing pisspants. You stated:Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
"and then finally whenever i feel like it say, look at that guy! he's killing...am i not to some degree responsible as well?"
If that is your true feelings than you MUST feel that the war to remove Saddam the murderer and his rapist kids from power was something we had to do or " am i not to some degree responsible as well"?
Simple answer to a simple question. :D
it's something we had to do for over a decade as clinton bombed them weekly...it's something the people of iraq should have done...but would we have let that happen when saddam was our good pal?
i don't allow my government to do my thinking. they've proven to me to support dictators and allow certain atrocities...while starting wars over others...so i dont' really trust their motives.
i could imagine the newsreels...iraqi insurgents or terrorists are rebelling against saddam...how dare them! flashfoward...saddam is bad...
i know though, trillions of dollars worth of a certain substance is certainly no motive, right.
what took us so long...
i made an honest mistake by incorrectly placing him in the wrong war. sorry for being a canadian who knows american history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
And the chinese did save your ass in ww2 whether you want to admint it or not. whther they had a plan drawn up or it was simply a lucky coincidence, the allied forces were nearly down for the count and YOU KNOW THAT. if japan had been able to mobilise thier concentration soley on what was going on in europe then you'd be talking about how great hitler was for getting rid of jewish terrorists. your just acting ignorant on purpose or you're just THAT thick.
all hail incorrect knowledge of history.
Thank you VERY much!!! So now we all know you are for the war because it is a just cause. We supported Saddam the same as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and KUWAIT because the Illatolla (bad spell check!) in Iran was threatening to run across the middle east to slaughter Israel. We weren't the ONLY kids on the block supporting this asshole. Middle eastern countries that were afraid of losing autonomy to Iran were supporting him also.
Kind of like our current system for elections....not who you actually like, who is the worst of the two evils and vote AGAINST him.
The Japaneese invaded China WAY before the U.S. even considered any conflict with Germany or Japan. Now since the Japaneese attacked Peril Harbor was the Chineese suppose to lose all hope and quit fighting? The Chineese weren't liberated until we nuked Japan. Before you spew shit, read a little history. The internet is a wide open world of knowledgen waiting just for you! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
but you're still getting evil. you will never justify, to me, the necessity to vote for evil. what's going to eventually come from just voting for the least evil a little at a time...it's the only stopping us from getting evil all at once i would assume.
maybe you think you have to vote for one of two evil cousins in the same mafia like secret society...but i don't think i have to, and i try as often as i can not to.
Lets make this real easy:
Why did Germany lose the war...two fronts with largely divided troops. Invading Russia with an existing super power (at the time) Great Britain still existing was a huge error. Death by arrogance!
Japan: Two fronts...Asian and the U.S. and because of Hitlers fuck up they had to contend with Russia also! Besides, they got nuked.
This leads us back to the mccollum memo which stated that with rising powers of Germany and Italy in the Atlantic, we could not afford to let Great Britain crumble or the Japaneese to grow much more in the Pacific theater! We were on a two front war also, but we had Great Britain and Russia as EXISTING allies still in tact. Not to mention freedom fighters throughout the Asian counties that were already invaded by the Japaneese.
Let's see about this "just causes" theory of yours:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
saddam: aided , funded and abbeted by the u.s. despite his sanctions
saudi arabia: owns part of the u.s. and actually had the terrorists.
israel: condoned by the u.s. and placed in its current position to destabilise arabs against jews. yeh, noone saw that coming.
and your voting against two evils bullshit really has me questioning if existence is real. it has to be made up. you're trying to tell me your perception of how your country is supposedly run is so weak that you think you HAVE to choose between two idiots you dont like? you HAVE to support this...you HAVE to support that?
that's it i'm going back to mars...earth is too weird.
all hail idiocy.