I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

I'm not a farmer and I can't even spell horticulturist right (Spell checker can though!;)) The absolute best thing I have ever grown is a rock garden and know nothing about caring for a plant properly.... so of course I'm going to have problems. Hell, as far back as I care to remember even lawn care is at best a spectator sport. But, I got a 400w MH light and built a grow room loosely following the construction steps as shown on the "I Grow Chronic" DVD - sans hydroponic system, co2 etc... I also discovered that window screen makes a nice deterrent to keep the cats out - (I DID get that part on my own!)

Being my first attempt to grow, I bought "potting soil" on sale at Kroger for a buck a bag and 8" pots. These had no drains, so I drilled a 3/8 hole in one side at the very bottom. I set these in 10" plastic drain pans, and have generally been watering from the bottom once the plant was established, keeping the water above the top of the drain hole and letting the plant (and soil) wick up what it will take. As you can see, my system is one of the '..ahem..' real high dollar systems. But being 100% disabled and trying to live on my disability, funding is 'limited'.

But my prettiest plant seems to be sick. The leaves are showing yellow patterns, that while pretty, I don't think should be there if everything was right. I just pulled on up that the yellow had gotten to the top of and killed, and re-seeded. Thankfully I'm just dealing with headache brown seeds while I'm trying to learn.

Can anyone take a look at this picture and give me some direction on what I might be doing wrong please? I dunno if it's water - too much/little, if it's nutrients, if it's too much heat in the box - or little green men coming in at night and painting the leaves. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

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I'm not a farmer and I can't even spell horticulturist right (Spell checker can though!;)) The absolute best thing I have ever grown is a rock garden and know nothing about caring for a plant properly.... so of course I'm going to have problems. Hell, as far back as I care to remember even lawn care is at best a spectator sport. But, I got a 400w MH light and built a grow room loosely following the construction steps as shown on the "I Grow Chronic" DVD - sans hydroponic system, co2 etc... I also discovered that window screen makes a nice deterrent to keep the cats out - (I DID get that part on my own!)

Being my first attempt to grow, I bought "potting soil" on sale at Kroger for a buck a bag and 8" pots. These had no drains, so I drilled a 3/8 hole in one side at the very bottom. I set these in 10" plastic drain pans, and have generally been watering from the bottom once the plant was established, keeping the water above the top of the drain hole and letting the plant (and soil) wick up what it will take. As you can see, my system is one of the '..ahem..' real high dollar systems. But being 100% disabled and trying to live on my disability, funding is 'limited'.

But my prettiest plant seems to be sick. The leaves are showing yellow patterns, that while pretty, I don't think should be there if everything was right. I just pulled on up that the yellow had gotten to the top of and killed, and re-seeded. Thankfully I'm just dealing with headache brown seeds while I'm trying to learn.

Can anyone take a look at this picture and give me some direction on what I might be doing wrong please? I dunno if it's water - too much/little, if it's nutrients, if it's too much heat in the box - or little green men coming in at night and painting the leaves. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

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The couple things that catch my eye is your watering technique and looks like its time for some plant food. For watering i think youll have better results by watering from the top until you see a little runoff, then let it dry out, then repeat. As for food, since you are growing cheap, i would suggest Miracle Grow all purpose for veg then when you flip to 12/12 use MG Bloom booster. You can buy big boxes at walmart for cheap. Start off small then increase a little until you get up to recommended doses on the label. Im assuming you are using tap water so id suggest you get a ph meter. A ph meter helps alot with growing. You can get a decent one on ebay for around 20 bucks.

If you decide to grow again i would strongly recommend getting better soil. A good soil will help out alot especially with a new grower. Good luck

Also check out some of the grow logs on here. They are filled with good info:thumbsup:

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The couple things that catch my eye is your watering technique and looks like its time for some plant food. For watering i think youll have better results by watering from the top until you see a little runoff, then let it dry out, then repeat. As for food, since you are growing cheap, i would suggest Miracle Grow all purpose for veg then when you flip to 12/12 use MG Bloom booster. You can buy big boxes at walmart for cheap. Start off small then increase a little until you get up to recommended doses on the label. Im assuming you are using tap water so id suggest you get a ph meter. A ph meter helps alot with growing. You can get a decent one on ebay for around 20 bucks.

If you decide to grow again i would strongly recommend getting better soil. A good soil will help out alot especially with a new grower. Good luck

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I fed them Sunday a week ago. Just 1 cup each with some Walmart imitation of Miracle Grow called "Expert Gardner - All Purpose Plant Food" - at half strength. And I fed them from the top. How often would you suggest I do that?

And, I just ordered 2 PH meters, one for water, and one 3 way for soil, on your advice. $19.03 total on Ebay (/w free shipping!) They should be in next week. Could have gotten them cheaper from China but there was a little line about import taxes and call customs and blah blah.... Sounded a little like a bait and switch to me, so I ordered them locally. Probably cost less in the long run anyway.

Now, as to soil, seeings how I WILL be doing this again (and again and again) any particular soil you recommend for the next crop?

I'm in the process of constructing the flowering room. It will be 2.5' x 6' x 8'. My "intention" is to use two ceiling fan light kits mounted on a hanging board (and a home-made Mylar recovered reflector), with bulb splitters, hanging a total of 16 26-35w CFL bulbs. Do you think this is going to be enough light? I'm trying to get some red spectrum in there.

(Thanks so much - I'm just trying to learn! AND.... I've started watch the log thread as well.)

Im not the most experienced grower, but I think you should drill more drainage holes in the bottom, not the side, I had a few problems early with drainage, and that was with 5 hole in the bottom. Lil soupy at the bottom. Best advice I got was to keep it simple, and wait till they tell you what they need. We seem to wanna love em to death, as noobs. I think you got some good mentors to follow on here. Read till your eyes bleed, and read some more. How old are your plants, now? I started with mg at about 1/4 to 1/3 strength at about 3 or 4 weeks, and still got some nute burn, so be carefull! Also, watch the mh light on the youngins. Are you using tap water? If so, let it sit uncovered for about a day to let chlorine evap away. If bottled, disregard. Good luck, man. Hope you get a harvest outta this one!

In my experience Fox Farm Ocean Forrest is by far the best soil that i have used. Its expensive as hell around my part (30 bucks a bag and a 3 hour total drive) but i will gladly dish that out everytime since i have real small grows. If you wanna keep it cheap you can always go with MG soil from Walmart. Be careful if you get that cause most if not all bags contain time release nutes which could burn up the little ones if your not careful.

Bobthis pretty much covered everything for ya. If your soil gets soupy you can always add perlite to your mix.

Wait a min i just caught something. Are you planning on using the 400mh for veg and cfls for flower? Or are you gonna do a total cfl grow?

I've never heard of Fox Farm soil and I doubt I'm going to find it locally here in the bible belt, so it'll probably be MG for the next crop.

I already have the 400w MH and am using it for vegetation. I'm building the flowering room now and plan on using CFLs in there... 16 of them. 8 26w and 8 35w, if I can find the 35's locally. If not, then I guess I'll have to use 16 26w CFLs for flowering in a 360º Mylar lined area with a Mylar reflective hood. Think that's enough for 2½' x 6' x 8'? I hope so, but... If necessary I will add more CFLs. Realistically, what other choice would I have with the budgetary restrictions I'm working under? I'm following Craigslist locally for some HPSs , but what I'm finding is already gone, or out of the budget. I'm SURE, given enough time, I'll end up with HPSs eventually, but time, right now, is not a commodity I have a lot of available... I think I'll be moving to flowering within the next 4-6 weeks. So I'm looking at what I believe to be the 2nd best choice.

BTW.. Thank you VERY MUCH for your advice. You can't realize just how much, what may seem to be small amounts of advice, mean to me at this point. This is unexplored territory for me and I'm trying to adsorb as much knowledge as I can without being too much of a pain while doing it. I really was serious when I said I could kill a rock garden.

Finally, I found a dealer, in Georgia, that handles Fox Farm that's less than 100 miles away. However, he only has Happy Frog @ $28 a bag. Now the question becomes, "Is Happy Frog acceptable, or is it worth driving 40 miles further to specifically look for Ocean Forest?"

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Finally, I found a dealer, in Georgia, that handles Fox Farm that's less than 100 miles away. However, he only has Happy Frog @ $28 a bag. Now the question becomes, "Is Happy Frog acceptable, or is it worth driving 40 miles further to specifically look for Ocean Forest?"

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Since i have never used happy frog i couldnt tell you. Dont get me wrong i have had good results with mg soil and its right there at walmart. So its all up to you. I was just stating what i use and what i believe to be the best soil that i have used.

There's a lot to growing good medical grade smoke and its expensive to start. Its a lot of researching and time involved. Its harder than most people think. Check out a lot of the grow logs on here and you will see very few new growers actually make it all the way through curing with quality smoke. Hell ive been growing and researching every day for a year and i still dont have everything figured out. Plus im researching on 3 different sites haha.

You can find most of your grow equipment on ebay for a decent price. Just be sure you look at their shipping price cause sometimes its as much as the product. Cfls will do a good job but it takes alot of them and you have to keep them close. Once you add the bulbs, Ys, Clamp lights(or whatever), surgebar, and timer itll all start adding up price wise. Just do a little research and see what will give you the most bang for the buck. Also check out HTGSupply. They have some great prices. Here is a pic of my ghetto growbar that i use for veg. 18 26w cfls. I couldve bought a mh for what i spent on it but i was able to add to it a little at a time.
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:D First off, IT'S A GIRL!

I cut a male out today...:(. and attached is an image for the little girl. And she's started flowering.

I planted 4 seeds, the cats got one plant, I just couldn't resist killing one, and 2 made it to start flowering. I've never gotten this far before.

Now, my questions are:

A:- Those big leaves... I've always heard of them as referred as sucker leaves. Are these what I believe I heard referred to as sugar leaves in some other thread?

B:- Should I remove those to allow better light to get to the lower part of the plant, or should i leave them?

The had become root bound, so I re-potted to 3 gal pots. When I did, I used a mixture of MG, sand, perlite and a little peat moss to add some acidity... they were WAY to alkaline in the first pot. They LOVED the new mixture!

I've gotten this far with the advice given here, so I guess this is the best place to ask about these leaves.

Thanks!

I never remove leaves. I do cut off lowest branches, sometime.

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I never remove leaves. I do cut off lowest branches, sometime.

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Yea... but you're growing OUTSIDE, whereas, alas, I am forced to grow within the confines of my back porch - and within only a limited section of that. So I guess you take the 'limbs' and build a 'bonnie bonfire' to give your garden a homey atmosphere? ;) Ok, Un-huh - but you're getting one crop a year, and I'm looking for 3-4.

I left a message for a girl on Craig's list that has some equipment and ferts that I'm really hoping she'll be willing to barter for. A couple of fans, a 1000w HPS, a couple of ionic filters, a hydroponic pump and tubing with drip nozzles... Just an assortment of stuff - all of which I hope to need in the relatively near future. I (jokingly) offered her an outboard motor I have (boy would it be a blessing if she went for THAT in trade) - but in reality I intend to offer services in my field of expertise. The worst she can say is 'No', right?

A month ago I had no idea as to how to tell the difference between a male and a female plant. I was 'satisfied' with the 'potting soil' on sale at the grocery and thought I was going to make great accomplishments with 4 eight inch pots. BOY! Was I "STOOOOOPIIID"! But I'm learning.

So you recommend I just 'let it grow' at this point? Ok, I can do that. I've learned not to water every day. I guess I can learn patience next. I've made it from killing rock gardens to having flowers that even I can clearly identify. Not too bad of a first step.

I only grow inside and harvest every four months; using dual 400 HPS/CMH lights in a 2x4 closet...;)

One of the best pieces of equipment you can own is a simple moisture meter. $7.
It has a 8 inch metal probe; and a scale that reads DRY-MOIST-WET.

You can see it in this pic......:stoned:

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One of the best pieces of equipment you can own is a simple moisture meter. $7. It has a 8 inch metal probe; and a scale that reads DRY-MOIST-WET.

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Got one. :thumbsup: Mine also does PH and light.... Looks very similar to yours except it has a little switch and a light sensor on the front. BIG help. I now water when it indicates the soil in the first stages of 'dry'. It was that meter that led me to realize the plants were root bound as the largest was getting drenched every night and dry again the next.

And yea, it was about $7 including shipping on eBay.

I dunno why I thought you were growing outdoors. Senility I guess Happens when you get old and stoned. Shame to see you've reached the stages where you can't remember where your plants are. ;)

As for me... What were we talking about? :wtf:

D'Pimp...

What'd I do? Run you off with a little bit of teasing?

I really expected a reply.

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D'Pimp...

What'd I do? Run you off with a little bit of teasing?

I really expected a reply.

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sorry...I'm here...what's the question?...cutting off leaves?...don't do that.

Well, with a "plant :wtf: murderer" reputation, I'd never have expected to see this. :)

Yes, I ran it through Photoshop, but only to re-size, crop and save for the web. I did not "enhance" it in any manner.

:) I rec'on it'd be safe to call this is a female :)
(I'm not asking for confirmation on it's sex, I KNOW what it is!)

PushIt & DutchPimp;

I'd like to thank you both for your help I couldn't have done this without your guidance.

Here's where it stands today. I think I'm at about 3-4 weeks from harvest, but I can't say as the microscope I've ordered hasn't arrived yet. BTW... Radio Schmuck no longer caries hand held illuminated microscopes, but I found a 45x on Amazon for $7.22 and free shipping from some "Hobby Tool Supply".

I was hoping that microscope would be here today, but.... As this is something grown from bag seed, I have no "name" for it. I guess I'll just have to call it something fancy... Maybe like.... uhhh... lemme think... I know!! HomeGrown! :)

I've been reading (lurking) on the other threads about "when to harvest" and my intention is to wait till I'm seeing predominately amber trichomes. In some of the images I've taken, I can see the balls on the top of the trichomes, but their color?? - - Not a clue. But then, that's what the microscope is for.

Attached is an image taken about an hour ago. :thumbsup: It was taken at 14Mpx using just the zoom for macro. I've done nothing but re-size it. I personally think it's a real nice picture.

To be previously labeled a "plant murderer", I can only credit this success on your help. Thanks again!

Looks Great!...:thumbsup:

Now, comes the hard part...when to harvest.

more amber ....takes several more weeks

Looking good:thumbsup:

Have you had any luck with your hps search?

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Looking good:thumbsup:

Have you had any luck with your hps search?

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I 'thought' I had, but it fell through. A girl in Atlanta had a 1K and a400? 600? Plus fans, pumps, nutes, complete kit. SunSystem's Ballasts and a couple of conversion bulbs for both. She had already sold the 600 (or whatever it was) and 'only' had the 1000 left. I was negotiating with her on that 1000w when she came back and said someone had just bought it all - package deal. :wtf:..>>..:mad:..>>..:stoned: ..>>..:)
But really... she had thousands invested in everything she had and was looking for a $350 bailout. It WAS a Sweet deal!

So I kinda gave up as my plants were flowering and ended up building 2 grow boxes instead. Extra large cardboard storage boxes from HomeDepo. I kept 'em flat and reinforced the corners with 1x2 pine stripping - which created 'legs' as well as reinforcing the entire corner. I Mylar lined everything. Then I laid a sheet of Mylar on the floor to sit them over effectively lining the bottom.

I built a CFL light board with a piece of 1x12, 4' long, and with 6 ($1.79) ceramic sockets. Wired the line of sockets in parallel using a 12 ft extension cord ($2?) - which left 8 feet of cord to get it plugged in. Then I put a 'Y' splitter (79¢) in each socket creating 12 sockets - which I filled with 26w/100w-eq bulbs($14/6 pack). At 2,700° Kelvin they're way red/warm. :)

I drilled a couple of holes in the wood and threaded a cord through, looping through a couple of hooks in the ceiling to raise it and lower it - I'll put it on pulleys soon. I put a couple of pieces of Mylar covered cardboard on each side of the wood for a reflector and hung it up. It gives me 600w in each box, which is 22"x22"x65", and it's working like a charm. :thumbsup:

The reflector spreads out when the light is in the lowered position, and allows the top to 'seal', but this seal is not absolute... So during the 'night' (for the plants), I just raise the lights and throw a piece of black poly over the top. If I miss the time for whatever reason, the reflector seals the boxes well enough for them to wait. :)

I'm just getting ready to expand it to a 3 pot box and then duplicate the entire system with another.

Attached is an image of my homemade lights system. Total cost? Around $65-$75.;)

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The reflector spreads out when the light is in the lowered position

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Actually, I didn't say that right.

The reflector fits INSIDE of each box at an angle spreading out to the sides of the box. There is a small triangle open on each end at the very top, allowing heat to naturally vent. I have an 80mm muffin fan at the bottom of each box, that feeds cool air 'forcing' the vent.

There. That's a better explanation, description, destruction, whatever....

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Looks Great!...:thumbsup:

Now, comes the hard part...when to harvest.

more amber ....takes several more weeks

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Yea, these upcoming "several weeks" will be the hardest part as patience is not really one of my strong points. But having gotten this far with the plants looking this good there's no way I'm going to stick my foot in this and harvest early, sacrificing quality just to make haste.

Hey Pushit (or someone that knows more than a rank amateur like myself!)

Please take a look at the attached image. I 'might' see a nanner, but I'm not REAL sure exactly what it is that I'm watching for.

If it IS a nanner, this plant (the smaller of the two I'm flowering) needs to come out ASAP!

Am I looking at a nanner here?

Thanks so much!

Wonder if you could take another pic and back away from the plant where I'll be able to zoom it from here when I click on the pic.

Ga.

I will attempt to better than that...

Here's a couple of links to the 14 megapix images, straight off of the camera.... You can zoom in as far as you like.

http://hemp4georgia.org/P1010872.JPG <-- the possible nanner

Thanks for looking!


(By the way, here's what I'm trying to protect....)

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I'd say yes by the way it looks. You can just pluck it off. Are there anymore? Do you want to leave it and produce seeds,for a future grow? I looked all abot the plant. From my inspection that was the only one I saw.

Plant looks really healthy,though!
Ga.

I personally cant tell but if Ga thinks it is then it probably is. Ive only had nanners pop up one time since ive been growing so on my log i was pretty much just assuming since ive never seen them before. You should be getting close to harvest by now huh? Dont forget to flush for the final 2 weeks.

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You should be getting close to harvest by now huh? Don't forget to flush for the final 2 weeks.

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I "think" I'm real close to harvest. It becoming REAL hard to keep from 'tasting' that other plant, with those 4 huge buds. But I've been a good boy and kept my grubby little fingers off of it.

I'm seeing a couple of amber trichomes scattered around on the bigger pant, and as soon as I see about 10-20% amber, I intend to flush. I've quit foliar feeding with superbloom and am just using plain distilled water to give the flowers a bath nightly now, as I want to be absolutely sure that I don't leave any chemical nutrients in the buds as they tighten up. I'm VERY impressed with this other plant (see 2nd link above) considering it's just 'bag seed'. I don't have any fancy schmancy name for it, but those 4 buds are thicker than my wrist at the top, and filling in nicely down the stem! That's going to be my "Christmas present"... (I hope!!) I'll just call it 'Santa's homegrown'....

So while I wait for that one to finish, I'll start drying the 'smaller' of the two plants, with the nanners ... tonight. Nanners? CUT IT! It will give me 'some' idea if I've been doing this right, though the trichome count on the top of the leaves is pretty low. The bottom of the leaves actually have more on that one plant.

Damn! I hate that the one is popping nanners, but that's part of the game I guess.

I have one plant in vegetation that's apparently an quto-flower strain - just more bag seed... and two that I'm just about ready to move to the flower boxes. I've topped the shit out of them and have 12 main stem growths on each. I hope they're girls and they do well.

The 'auto-flower' girl is not 'exploding' with flowers, but it's shown it's sex and I can't get it back to vegetating - even when I took the lights to 24/0. So it will be what it will be - staying in there under 18/6.

When these other two go into the flower boxes, I think I'll order a few seeds from Attitude to start the next rotation. Any suggestion on any particular strain that will handle heat (and an inexperienced grower) well?

Summers here average in the 90's and while the back porch is 'cooler' than outside, it's still pretty damn hot. I'm sure that MH lamp is going to produce enough heat to keep the vegetating area in the high 90's starting early in the spring and getting into the 110(+) range in the actual summer..... There ain't a damn thing I can do about the heat without installing an air conditioner back there - to which just the ideawould cause my wife to have a COW! So I need to find some real 'heat resistant' seed strains.

Of course, <sarcasm> I want that 87+% THC strain, ya know! :) Ok, ok, ok... I'll 'settle' for 20% - how's that? 8-15%?!?!? Damn! Well, if I have to... :stoned:

(Course, as I'm probably 'smoking' 3% and growing 5% right now I guess I shouldn't complain, huh?)

SNIP! SNIP!

The plant with the nanner is hanging to dry....

Now watch it start to rain for the next 3 weeks straight and raise the humidity to some ridiculous levels where nothing will dry.... We've only been in "drought" conditions for the last several months, but I can just hear MURPHY coming! That summabitch NEVER misses a chance to f*ck with me.

GaGrown... Thanks for identifying that nanner.

And now I'm down to one.... But it has some MASSIVE buds!

The plant that developed nanners is drying right now and I'll be flushing the surviving female tomorrow. It's in a 3 gallon pot, so if I've read the other threads correctly, I need to run about 9-10 gallons of distilled water through it, adding a 1-2 tablespoons of molasses into the last gallon... Then plan to harvest in two weeks with no further feed or water in the meantime. (Maybe a just a little more time - based on trichome color) Right?

I have 3 plants vegging :thumbsup: and i expect to move two to the flowering boxes soon as soon as both boxes are clear. Hopefully, two of the three will be female, but with bag seed ya never know what to expect. This time however, all of the seeds were planted in the right soil, not some buck a bag trash on sale at Kroger. Also, neither of the prettiest is taking off like a bat out of hell compared to the other like that last male did.

All three of these stretched a bit right after they sprouted and I had to use a paper clip to support them until they grew some strength in the stem, but as you can see, they developed real healthy main stems pretty quick with a fan keeping their attention. And two of them are a week or two older than the third.

They're currently at about 6-8 inches under a 400w MH lamp on 18/6. Any closer and I'd risk burning them. They're already up to 1½ strength feeding on an 'as needed' watering diet. They'll go to 2X as soon as I have to water them again, and they're already on 2X in folier feeding. OK, so I'm lazy... I'd run out of 1½X and had already made the next gallon @ 2X when I needed to refill the spray bottle... What can I say? But they do get folier feeding daily, so it's not like I'm THAT lazy. There's NO HINT of fertilizer burning on any of them - I watch for that closely. I believe the couple of bottom leaves in the second picture that are dieing are simply due to stem growth and development, not nutes, as they're below the 'knuckle'. Those couple of leaves have already fallen off of the other plant with no detrimental impact.

They all appear healthy and strong, and I have topped them, shall we say, a 'couple' of times, to keep 'em short and growing bushy. Not that it would have anything at ALL to do with creating more main stems, or producing more main buds or anything like that. Nah... I'd never do anything like try to create my own little SOG with a single plant. Nope, nope... not me.
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But, the 'next-gen' has arrived and is just waiting for it's new home, at which time I plan to order a few high end seeds. DutchPimp... I know you spoke highly of the 'White X' line from Attitude. Any idea as to how well they handle heat? I have a feeling temperature's going to be a factor during flowering in the generation after these.

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DutchPimp... I know you spoke highly of the 'White X' line from Attitude. Any idea as to how well they handle heat? I have a feeling temperature's going to be a factor during flowering in the generation after these.

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I stay below 85 degrees. I measure that; in the space between the light and the canopy.
(offset, out of direct light rays)

I don't know what the max limit might be? Good light + good soil + good temps = good weed

Bottomline: if things get too hot?...raise the light until temps improve.

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Bottomline: if things get too hot?...raise the light until temps improve.

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It's not just heat from the light.... It's the ambient temperature. We regularly get to 110°F in the heat of the summer... Such that it becomes impractical to try to keep the entire house cooled (not to mention EXPENSIVE!). We'll be over 90° by the middle of May. Installing a window AC unit on the back porch is not an option. I'd LOVE to be able to keep the area under 85°, but I'll be doing real good to stay under 95°.

Heat, I KNOW, is going to be a problem, but I imagine there is some strain of genetics that attempts to compensate for this (somewhat). So now, it's just a matter of finding something that someone else in the "deep south" has had relative success with. uhh.. Other than headache brown!

None of the seed banks tell anything about resistances and such. I hoped you may have had some experience with it. I may have to start another thread in regard to this.

Thanks though.

Say DutchPimp:

Was it you that spoke of growing in 'bags' in another thread I saw, rather than growing in pots??

If so, could you elaborate? Round pots don't fit in square boxes as well as I believe I could get bags to fit. But I have no idea as to what kind of 'bags' you might be using. (If it was you that said it)

If it wasn't you that I saw saying something about this, well... sorry.... smoking too much pot for too many years is said to affect short term memory. And I can't remember shit - but then, I never could.

Thanks

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Say DutchPimp:

Was it you that spoke of growing in 'bags' in another thread I saw, rather than growing in pots??

If so, could you elaborate? Round pots don't fit in square boxes as well as I believe I could get bags to fit. But I have no idea as to what kind of 'bags' you might be using. (If it was you that said it)

If it wasn't you that I saw saying something about this, well... sorry.... smoking too much pot for too many years is said to affect short term memory. And I can't remember shit - but then, I never could.

Thanks

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That would be me. Check your Ok Im confused thread. I put it all on that one

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Check your Ok Im confused thread. I put it all on that one

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Oops...
All I can add is "I can't remember shit - but then, I never could."

I flushed this last Tuesday and after watching for months, I just had a slip of mentality and listened to that little devil on my shoulder that kept telling me to sample it. "It's just one little sample. No one will notice it. Go ahead, go ahead. It's all right. Go ahead. Take a sample." You know the spheel. So I broke down to the temptation. {sigh} Since flushing she gotten so top heavy I've had to play with a little bondage to keep her up.

I took one small bud from the lower branches, stuck it in an envelope and sat the envelope on top of my old CRT monitor for some gentle dry heat. Thirty Six hours later (this morning) I rolled half of it for my wife's wake and bake.

She's fried.

Excellent.... but as always, a better strain seed would have produced better meds.


I put the next gen on a 12/12 schedule Tuesday as well. They have been vegging for about 6 weeks and have been topped several times. My 'intention' is to start a grow log thread on them. I hope everyone comes over to follow it.

Look here to find it. http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...g-georgia.html

You were absolutely right. NOW comes the hard part. Watching this thing S L O W L Y mature while keeping me mitts off of it!

It's STILL only at about 3% (or less) amber trichomes!

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Originally Posted by GrowingInGeorgia

Yea... but you're growing OUTSIDE, whereas, alas, I am forced to grow within the confines of my back porch - and within only a limited section of that. So I guess you take the 'limbs' and build a 'bonnie bonfire' to give your garden a homey atmosphere? ;) Ok, Un-huh - but you're getting one crop a year, and I'm looking for 3-4.

I left a message for a girl on Craig's list that has some equipment and ferts that I'm really hoping she'll be willing to barter for. A couple of fans, a 1000w HPS, a couple of ionic filters, a hydroponic pump and tubing with drip nozzles... Just an assortment of stuff - all of which I hope to need in the relatively near future. I (jokingly) offered her an outboard motor I have (boy would it be a blessing if she went for THAT in trade) - but in reality I intend to offer services in my field of expertise. The worst she can say is 'No', right?

A month ago I had no idea as to how to tell the difference between a male and a female plant. I was 'satisfied' with the 'potting soil' on sale at the grocery and thought I was going to make great accomplishments with 4 eight inch pots. BOY! Was I "STOOOOOPIIID"! But I'm learning.

So you recommend I just 'let it grow' at this point? Ok, I can do that. I've learned not to water every day. I guess I can learn patience next. I've made it from killing rock gardens to having flowers that even I can clearly identify. Not too bad of a first step.

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doesnt seem logical. 3-4? how do you expect to do that?

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Originally Posted by ogganjagrower

doesnt seem logical. 3-4? how do you expect to do that?

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That shouldn't be too difficult. To turn crops in a three month rotation actually means harvesting once every three months. That allows 3 months in flowering, while the next rotation is already in vegging, DURING that same three months. This actually allows 6 months total growing time per crop. It's a perpetual grow, shifting from vegging to flowering every three months (roughly).

Indoor growing with 12-13 weeks in vegging and 12-13 weeks in flowering (while the next crop is already started vegging), and growing from clones, this should be quite simple. In fact, 26 weeks total is a little long. So a 4 crop per year rotation should not be difficult, depending on strain.

Growing outdoors, I don't think this could be done because you're at the mercy of the seasons and the sun. Indoors I can control the "season" and the "sun".