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I am 24 and have recently been diagnosed with Bipolar II Disorder and had been a daily smoker up until the onset of my first bought of mnia. Now I am reluctant to smoke bud in fear that it will cause me to have a manic or depressive episode. Is there anyone out there who has used bud successfully? Please elaborate and share any studies that you may have come across.
my brother has obsesionnal mental problems and he used to smoke pot really often, he had few badtrips when he just exit the mental hospotal but it never came back
i've got bipolar disorder and i smoke everyday, it keeps me level headed. but if you're gonna do it you better always have something stashed off incase you can't find some one day, because it's gonna suck.
so do you think that the pot makes you have manic or depressive episodes that wouldn't otherwise happen? Are you on any pharm. drugs? I'm just afraid that smoking will make me have an episode.
yeah man im bipolar an i smoke almost every day but ive got pills 4 it,i think the best thing 2 do is 2 stay busy like i play baseball,boxe and play football it keeps my mind of things an when i get baked i cant do ne thing but laugh and eat so its good
A friend of mine in my Psychology AP class has bipolar disorder... he smokes a lot and he has never had a psychotic break from it. I think you're safe.
it must help at least some b-p patients as it's on our list of ailments and i know of at least 2 people with it here who have been licensed...can't advise on your case but why not try it with a close friend or 2 and see if it helps?
I have type 1 bipolar.I am not smoking right now as im having a baby.It helps me with my mania usually it calms me a little.I wish i could get prescribed mj for it im not sure if they do that here.Unfortunatley the only medication that work for me are meds for epilepsy.They are all classed type 4 drugs and are devistating for a pregnant woman and the unborn child.Im really feeling the effects of no weed my mania will come back in full force soon and i cant do anything about it.
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Originally Posted by dmc7580
i use it to help controll the mood swings
they dont happen as often or as sever when im well smoked up.
i no longer take any RX meds for it,they all fialed in my case and brought on major depression,
weed on the other hand,lifts my gloom and helps slow the manic(rapid thoughts)
best of luck
larry your a little fucker i swear you don't laugh or tease other people that have problems... i have a friend that his brother has mental illnesses and my friend fights with him a lot... you are a bastard man you try to make fun of people wait one day when you get a desease we shall see everyone will be laughing at you you will see how it is hard to live in this society man everyone wants everything to be perfect but it isn't and it will never be just like any one of us and all the other people out there
There Is Balance
Cheers
Total
The above post was in reference to a few posts by Larry, that I've since deleted. Enough Larry. Consider yourself told.Quote:
Originally Posted by Totalpain
Why do you guys like freaks? I dont understand.
I fuckin hate freaks. Maybee i just dont understand mental illness.
But i dont care . If any freak does anything to me.
I will punch them in the fuckin head because there
is no excuse for an adult that cant control them self.
If you cant control yourself get comited to a hospital
so you dont bother other people.
Cause you will get beat up or put in the can
larry man thats fucked up....
see larry that why your kicked off the chatQuote:
Originally Posted by larry
a freak,??
a freak is like micheal jackson,
not somebody who has a chemical inbalance and emotions rush up and take over for a time,
if you want to call me a freak for that so be it.it is your opinion be it a stupid one,but you will take note!!!!!!1
i may want to smack you so hard ya momma gets a headacke if ya do.
i dont think you understand fucking english let alone mental illness
to me your the fucking freaky type,cuase you seem to have no soul.
YOU need to be tested
your acting like your the one with mental illness's notice the S.
far more serious than mine ca ever be.
yours is more like dillusional fixational stupidity disorder
im gonna piont you out in the crowd mr better than us.
would you like to have Banned under your name?
if not shut the fuck up.
cuase im sure the board mods are about tired of your ass anyway
you never have anything good to say about anyone or anything
that aint LARRY's,
so go make fun of the kids in special ed,and i hope one of them beats ya face to a pulp,
so as a man with bi polar disorder i'll just tell ya
some of the most smartest people ever was,
has had forms of mentall illness.
so
be nice or be gone cuase i will sure as shit put in the word to have your ass removed,did i not make myself clear?
stop putting people down,
i completely agree nowhere man. i cant belive someone would really say something like that
I'm bipolar and I smoke weed everyday and I think it has helped me a lot more than my medicine! It's different for everyone but I think it has helped my disorder more than it has hurt it.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO THINK YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME AND REPLY TO THE POSTS.YOUR A FUCKWIT LARRY EVERYONE KNOWS IT.I THINK YOU ACTUALLY SHOULD SEEK SOME PSYCHIATRIC HELP.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU COME PUNCH ME LARRY I BET I WOULD PUT YOU ON YOUR ASS IN 5 SECS AND LET EVERYONE LAUGH THAT YOU GOT BEATEN BY A 60KG GIRL.KNOB GOBBLER.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry
my money's bet on jacquelyne(dam thats a hard name for me to spell)being im half ass dislexic too(yea yea larry dont start)Quote:
Originally Posted by jacquelyne
she got the 'true grit' to handle the shit
i dont mind his opinion,just see him as most of ya do,we all have our own word for it ,mine is DISTURBED he should really be checked,i wished someone would have seen it in me at a young age,would have saved me a hell of lot of grief and from making alot of mistakes,(maybe)
i will offer him some good advise
"when you think your better than others THINK agian"
to those who may think im some uptight asshole,equate it to him saying your retarded for having your eye color
peace
dude who said every1 with bi-polar is an adult an i would love 2 have some1 like you try an fight me you fuckin jackass dont talk about things you dont no shit aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by larry
Let me back in the chatroom because you know
I wasn't harrasing anyone
You know my opinion about people that cant control
themselves. So why did you start questioning me
about it? You kicked me out becuase you dont like
me. Not because of what i did.
Take your medication and relax.
"freak" is the slang that America has brainwashed into the twentieth generation; with the help of the media they have now once again claimed a genre.
Whoever labels is insecure and a majority of the time they label others what they feel inside triggers an immense amount of pain to the heart. Again the media has made it to my shitlist. :mad:
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Originally Posted by larry
larry has left the biulding
he should(Take your medication and relax.[QUOTE])
he no take a hint
i sure hope nobody takes him seriuos and lets his lil thoughts really upset them,he seemed to think it has alot to do with not liking him
i dont ,thats true,but had little to do with it
i dont like alot of people,but i can respect opinions,cant respect prejudices
not even my own,
peace
Um, weed is medicine. t
Um, weed is medicine. I'll bet Larry self medicates quite a bit. Take away Larry's stash and all his other rec. drugs and watch him spin into mental hell, guaranteed!
Not exacty a quick reply......
Mental disorders are mostly chemical imbalances or misfunctioning in the brain, the largest organ aside from our skin. Just because we are in the year 2005 and still don't know much about the brain doesnt mean we should fear it, or make fun of the symptoms. Brain problems are like heart, kidney or any other problems and should be respected as such. You don't make fun of people with heart conditions do you?Ignorant, uneducated people like Larry are the ones that create shame and fear for people who have mental problems (it's not their fault their brains are not working and the problem manifests itself into physical behavioral problems). The unknown is what people fear so they make fun instead to cope. Usually those people with the loudest objections are the ones that really need to be looked at for problems of their own.
Most bipolars (myself included) are extremely bright, creative types who have self medicated with weed and other drugs for years to help them. I've been on Lithium, Depakote, welbutrin, and a few others. I don't think weed ever did harm to my case. After years of being on Rx meds for bipolar II I was in a bad accident and crushed my spinal cord resulting in chronic debilitating pain. Pain management for years after that and through it I found my solution. After being on all kinds of opiates I was put on methadone. Yes, I know they use it to detox herion addicts and that's given it a bad name which is too bad because it is an excellent drug with little abuse problems. Anyways, don't knock it, it was developed by Hitler in the war years as a sub. for morphine cause they did not have enough to treat the war wounded for their pain, it's other name is Dolophine which was named after Hitler (Aldolf Hitler, he thought so much of it he wanted it named after him, adolophine as it was called in the 40's), it is the best pain management drug ever, way better than oxycontin (which is hard to control cause you have to keep taking more every week to deal with the same pain).
I no longer take any meds for bipolar (besides a bit of fine smoke) because I have found that the pain managment aspect to methadone is great, but it had a side benefit, that it also seems to be great for moderating mood stability. 2 years and I am better than ever. They used to Rx narcotics to patients with depression back in the 1800's and early 1900's due to it's link with seratonin. Personally I think it's the best kept secret in bipolar treatment. No more drug for mania, drug for depression, drug for anxiety, drug for sleep.
So I smoke plenty of weed and I have no problems with side effects.
Ha ha nowhereman
Why would you kick Larry out of the chatroom for that?
Hardbud aka Larry, give it a rest now - I mean it...I'm sick of deleting this shit.
Kurupt3Z3 you too - leave it out.
Peace
SOUNDS LIKE LARRY IS JUST A LITTLE IMMATURE IF YOU ASK ME..........YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION OR NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION..............EVENTUALLY, THE ISSUE WILL NEED A MORE COMMON SENSICAL ANSWER. LAUGHTER IS GOOD MEDICINE..........PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE FUNNY TEND TO USE THIS FORM OF "SHOCK" TO TRY & GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE......WHICH HE HAS SUCCEEDED IN DOING... EVENTUALLY HE WILL TAKE A MORE SERIOUS APPROACH TO ISSUES THE ISSUES THAT FACE US.....UNTIL THEN....I LAUGH AT HIM.
I had a friend that was bi-polar (he has passed away) & I think the weed really helped him with his bi-polar. Smoked alot of times with him and he never had a bad reaction or freaked out. He seemed to be more level headed when he was stoned.
And Larry, grow up man. Why post something stupid like that to people that are looking for help you fucking idiot.
being bi-polar is the ADHD of the 21st century.it isnt real.doctors just use broad and easy to relate to symptoms so everyone has bi-polar disorder.it isnt real.
How can someone help someone else with a mental illness?
Around here this city is only G's and hoes. :cool:
If You look for help you can help yourself cause they no hand outs.
larry, you are an ass. I can list a whole slew of famous, intelligent and creative people who have suffered from bipolar disorder. the fact that you know nothing about this disease only exposes your vast ignorance. i for one am a poet and a lawyer and have been very successful in life despite my illness. you on the other hand are most likely a loser and suffer from more mental disturbances that i ever have.
Amsterdam- I can assure you that there is such a thing as bipolar disorder
I'm am also (imaginary, apparently) type II bipolar. Other posters' experiences mirror my own...it is very helpful for leveling out the cycling, which is the worst part of bp in my opinion. The hardest thing I find in dealing with the unstable mood is that it is almost impossible to know what cycle you are in when you are in it. Cannabis seems to break through this somehow and allows me to recognize if I'm acting like an ass, or sliding into a depressive cycle, or whatever; and take steps to deal. No other meds I've found can do this.
Most people are pretty much ignorant of their own mental/emotional nature. So they tend to blame their emotional lapses on other people, or their circumstances to keep the fantasy alive that they are in total control of their mind, because they Fear.
and Fear is the mind-killer.
i got to say that when reading that post i can only nod and agree to the words i read as if i was telling somebody a thought of my own.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutterslang
and let me add that its a fact of life that fear is all consuming mentally when your mind reacts to outside stimulation and fear kicks in that adrenaline its in control of all brain activity for the duraction of the fear,being aware of how you have reacted in the past to certian events and situations helps in dealing with the present time and percieved future events,but im actually quietly calm and wound up like a spring if i have a sense of danger to arise.
being bi polar i have been using cannabis to regulate mood swings and it has been helpfull to me for as long as i can remember,
but i am a individual and we all should note it can be intense to some people to smoke thier meds,we all react different to any medication or drug or chemical we injest,not even twins would react the exact same,simular at best
anyway i consider fear like a chemical my body injects into itself when it reacts to some thought my brain has had,real events or imaginary dont matter
peace
my husband is bipolar and smokes pot every day. he "self medicates" he says. it works well for him, and a couple other people in his family that are bipolar. i think it IS the best kept bipolar treatment.....it comes from the earth....not some lab, so why not? :p
Come and live with me for a week on no medication then i would be interested to see your views on bipolar.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
I was diagnosed as Bipolar when i was 14, And have been smoking pot since 15/16.
Just dont stop taking pills to control your mania, That's the mistake i made.
I am bipolar with anxiety and insomnia and I smoke every day (when the supply allows). I can't say that cannabis has made me any more depressed (like the propoganda would have you believe)... If anything I think it has elevated my mood. I used to take Lithium, Xanax, Trazodone, and Depakote at the same time. Since I started smoking cannabis every day, I no longer take any psychiatric meds.
Come and live with me for a week on no medication then i would be interested to see your views on bipolar.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
being bi-polar is the ADHD of the 21st century.it isnt real.doctors just use broad and easy to relate to symptoms so everyone has bi-polar disorder.it isnt real.
of course you will have to detox from your meds but after that phase is over you should stabilize. instead try self hypnosis and you will have a cure I guarantee
sometimes just being in certain places can affect moods significantly. My stepson was on ritalin and during the summer I didnt give it to him and he was great but come schooltime when those lazy ass teachers didnt want to work hard so they wanted any hyper kid on ritalin and when he was on it he had way more mood swings and was out of controll at night when the ritalin wore off. it is all about mind over matter. dont believe everything these money hungry people tell you and remember this negativity grows on itself. how much money do you think pharm companies and doctors make from bi-polar disorder? billions and billions self hypnosis and positive imaging is the key please dont take offense but I speak the truth.
oh and Ritalin causes cancer. makes second hand smoke fears pale in comarison. yet the fuckers give it to little kids like candy
they should be shot
Can someone tell me what it is like when you go through your episodes?
I really would like to know.
Do you think to much? What I mean is when you do stuff during the day it seems normal to you but when an episode hits, "if that is the right term" do you dwell on how your comments or actions could be taken another way, a negative way to others? I'm not talking about paranoia.
I have a friend who wont seek help but goes through things like that. He actually doesn't like being around people when he gets like that. I have no clue about Bi-Polar and he wont seek help....
Can anyone tell me what they feel like when an episode hits, not that your depressed but what goes on.
thanks