I have purchased from home depot 3 68watt cfl and that is what i am using for light, I am just using miracle grow organic potting soil , they are just bagseed and 2 are 4 days old and 2 are 2 days old. how do i post pictures on here?
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I have purchased from home depot 3 68watt cfl and that is what i am using for light, I am just using miracle grow organic potting soil , they are just bagseed and 2 are 4 days old and 2 are 2 days old. how do i post pictures on here?
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My lights are 4 inches above them right now is that to close and is 3 of these enough for 4 plants???
You should be ok with the height, and with them in party cups like that you should be ok for now. Your probably gonna want more as your little girls get bigger.
what about the light is that enough or do I need more and what if I want to get up to 8-10 plants how many lights would i need then?
seedlings need "zero" nutes for a good 2 weeks. yours are already showing signs of being in ferted medium. get them out out of the mg!
I have one of those lights, I prefer not to use it because it makes a lot of heat, and since it's so big it doesn't transmit the lumens too great, which is why I use the smaller 23w 2700k cfls in the splitters, this works for me because I can hang the 2 light fixture at any height in the grow cab, or you can just use the one 68w on a chain, and for some reason I really want to hang that light sideways.
you should be ok in the soil, just stay on top of watering it, and don't overwater, the roots need oxygen to spread, so don't drown 'em.
In fact, I'm going to go do a test with the light meter I have. Just as I thought, the 68w doesn't cast the light any better than the 2x23w, at 5 inches from the light both read 200 on the meter. So in this bulbs case, the more wattage doesn't make for better light output, maybe overall, yes, but that light is like 8" tall by 3.5" wide, that's quite a bit of surface area to be projecting light from.
I'm gonna stop ranting now but I hope this helps!
I agree with the last post. Just get the 23w bulbs, a few splitters and there you go... I planted 9 bagseed on my first grow ended up with 2 females and a hermie. So good luck with those!
TehNooblet:pimp:
You also might want to try and get a different spectrum of the CFL bulbs. For seedlings up until flowering, I would be using a 6700K Bulb to promote quick and healthy growth. Next time you are at Walmart or any hardware store, look at the CFL bulbs, there should be some labeled 6500K. This is the bulb that you want for vegetation. When you start to flower, you will be using the 2700K bulbs. I have a total of 53 watts of 6700K CFL's in my small veg box and my clones and seedlings love it.
I will look into some 6700k cfl's, and I replanted them into some none fert potting soil, is it possible to grow and harvest of off these lights or am I going to need the 6700k lights too
I personally don't use the blue light spectrum(6500k) at all anymore. I am strictly on the 2700k lights, so no you don't need the 6500k lights, but they do aid in vegetative growth. As for flowering with only those lights, yes it's possible, but you want the plant to get as much light to it as possible. I doodled up a little sketch in MSpaint to help get my point across.
Using multiple 2bulb splitters will work better than just the 68w, you want to surround the plant with lights if you are using cfls for flowering, because they have barely any penetration power, so if you have any type of canopy you are going to want side lighting.
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ok so I added 4 26w cfl 6500k with a few spliters should i leave all the lights on through outor should i strictly only use the 6500k for veg or is it ok to have all of them on, I have 3 of the 68watt cfl 2700k, and 4 of the 25watt 6500k, I will post more pics later today they are looking healthier there is sign of new growth atleast so that has to be a good sign. thanks for all the input sorry for all the noob questions.
COOLWHIP
do you know what type these are? Such as Indica, Sativa, Ruderalis(sp), etc...
TehNooblet:pimp:
Im not sure what kind they are, its just bagseed from various bags
Added a 5" induction fan to the grow room today and 2 more smaller 6500k cfl's, Ill post more pics in a day or so
How do the babies look, advice from anyone would be great do they look like they are on tract for growth, do they look healthy I should start nutes at 2 weeks right??? what kind of nutes should I use that wont cost me an arm and a leg
well man are they a lil yellow or is that the glare from tha lights? how often do ya water and do you water with tap water if so let it set out for like 24 hours before ya water also did ya put any gravel in tha bottem of pots for good drainige are add more perlite one of tha 2 you prob can use some nutes but i would only use 1/4 of tha recomended dose and slowly up the dose over the weeks so ta dont burn ya plants as for nuts do some searching on here im sure you will find some ya like for cheap :thumbsup:
Its a reflection off of the lights, I water about every 2 days depending of how light the pots are, how long before I should transplant them to bigger pots? I will grab some nutes later this week, I will post pics of what I get. I do have some pea gravel on the bottom for drainage.
oh yeah and I do water with tap water but is left out atleast 24hrs.
Do you pH the water first? At that stage, I think I was still using a spray bottle to water so that I didn't wash away the lil girls with a torrent of water.
I didn't start adding nutes until the end of veg, however I did use a different soil than you. As of right now, your plants look very healthy.
If your soil has no nutrients in it, I would follow this advice. How close are the lights now? I use CFL's and aim for 1-3" from the top of the plants. As long as they don't touch the leaves they won't burn them.Quote:
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I have them about 2-3 inches away from the lights right now, all the nutes that have been checking out have three main components listed on the bag with like a 10-15-10, or 6-10-10, etc. which formula works best for veg and which one for flower?
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I don't grow in soil so I cannot give you any specific advice on what product to buy. The problem with the nutes in your garden center, is that they are not designed for cannabis and are generally too strong. You can get round this by using smaller doses.
If I were you, I would do one of the following things....
1, Find a succesful grow log that uses nuteless soil and see what nutes they use.
2, Visit a grow shop or nute manufacturers website, find a cannabis specific food for nuteless soil and try to match the NPK ratio as best you can(For example Hesi's Bloom Complex for soil has a ratio of 3-3-4).
3, Buy some cannabis specific soil nutes.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.... :(
repotted them to a little larger home this morning
Plant #3 looks droopy I dont know what its problem is the rest look pretty healthy
cool....i use miracle grow moisture control soil with extra perlite added in, and as far as nutes go i use fox farm big bloom liquid plant food for VEG, its rating is 0.01-0.3-0.7.....and fox farm tiger bloom fertilizer for FLOWER, its rating is 2-8-4...my plants never get burnt with this product, and i HIGHLY recomend this product(im sure alot of people will). i hope this helps ya.
You asked about mixing the red and blu spectrum lights. If you have the option, a mix of the 2 spectrums is better than just 1.
Are you adding any nutes yet? Yellowing is generally a sign of a lack of Nitrogen and droopy leaves are usually a sign of over watering.
How often are you watering? For soil it's best not to water everyday. More like every 3 days, but this is dependant on pot size.
Do you have drainage holes in the bottom of your pots to let excess water run off? If not, add some.
I water about every 2 days I will spread it out to every 3, I have not started nutes yet but will by this weekend and I do have both light spectrums going at the same time. Thanks for all the input
and I do have drainage holes in the bottom with a little bit of gravel bellow the soil to help drain
well man i think 2 days is a lil much on watering i mean ya want tha roots to grow down in search of water so they will have a nice root system if ya give them water every 2 days then your plants have no need to search for tha water and plus you have a higher risk of getting root rot and then you are kinda fucked i would water like every 3 or 4 days and on tha 3rd day id stick about half my finger in tha soil if its still moist id wait till tha 4th day
i used the organic mg last year it works good but you gotta mix it with topsoil i believe it says on the bag.. my bud used it without and the clone he used burnt and grew very slowly then died under a 400w hps i think it was too muddy... might check that out.. good luck with your grow :) hope ya get some girls.. i already pulld 2 with balls this year..:wtf:
Its the 3rd day since watering, just watered them this morning so I took some pictures while I had them out. Looks like they are enjoying their new pots.
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When is the best time to attempt to top them or Fimm them?? How do you they look so far
As of now I have a total of 10 23watt 6500k cfl and 3 68watt 2700k cfl in my grow room, Is it ok to to try to Fimm any of these plants or should I give it another week or so??? Do they look like they are indica or sativa???
I found some plant food that I feed them with its 24-15-15, I gave them an 1/8th of recomended dose.
Give them a couple more nodes (leaf points) before topping or fiming, shouldn't take long for 2-3 more set's of leave's to grow in.
Strain is a bit early to tell, your gonna have to wait to see the full grown fan leaves as far as I know, ( I don't know shit BTW :o )
Like I said above, I don't know shit,... specially about nutes, good luck! :thumbsup:
Here are the Kids this morning