First CFL Grow (Help Appreciated) Pics Included

Well after reading for months, I decided that the CFL Method would probally be the easier and Cheapest way to go. My Setup as is Follow

4 - 26w CFLs
1 - 62w CFL
180w @ 12000- 12500 Lumens
1:1 Ration or Cool to Warm

I have Most of the lighting no more than 8 inches away from the New Plant.
The seed is just from a Good sack that i purchased from a good man. Nothing like WHITE widow or anything crazy but good High high Mid Bud.
Its in a Gun Case(L=3ft W=2ft H= 6ft) with glass sliding doors and it has no roof in It. Might i also mention its in a closet where the doors need to be closed.(Parental Issues.)
It is on a 24/7 Light Schedule. I water 1 8oz glass bottles water about every 2- 3 days. The soil is sumthing my mom had on the Garden Spost to feed plants for 3 months. I will post the exact print tomarrow. Just was wondering about water , If i have enough Lighting for my Grow, and How bad will the Smell be. I am Currently Growing 1 Plant. Praying for Female. This is day 5 from sprout.

Any Tips Or Suggestions on Lighting water or nutrients or Anything Please feel Free To Suggest.Also should i increse the Lights to get a bigger yield and do CFL have to power to produce a nice Yield.

I am going to Grow in all stages with The CFL lights due to the fact 400w HPS Lamp is $100. =Thx Swisha

Picked up another 62w CFL bringing the total Watts to almost 250 with Around 16K Lumens. On a Single Plant. Do you guys think that this is be sufficent?

Will post pics soon.

Here are sum Update for today. The leaves look abit droppy. I have not had sufficent air ventalation in there.90 Degreez F . Will update More
Thx for Any Help

just from looking, your square footage looks pretty small. 5000+ lumens/ sq. foot is in the optimal growth range, so i'd say you're set. make sure you vent that and get temps down, as seedlings i've killed seedlings at 85 degrees.

yea lol,

I put a ceiling in on the cab used sum wire to hang a board with a strip. I got those adapters that use a light socket on 1 side and a plugin on the other. I have been trying to do sumthign about ventilation hopefully ill figure sumthing out..
-Swish

Heres another update with sum pics. i let it get sum nice ass sunshine today seemed to have perked up the leaves . They were dropping because of heat im guessing. still no vent =\

-swish

I believe if you would have gotten a 250w HPS you would be getting a better lumen/watt ratio but then you would have a temperature problem to deal with

but don't quote me on that I haven't done the math:stoned:

Hopefully ill have HPS by the time i bud. But doubt it. Really going the cheap way. Have only spent 10 dollars so far on this grow. I know my yield will suck if i just use warm cfls for budding. But sum bud for free is better than paying for it. I just got 2 PC fans hooked up to 9v DC chargers. I doubt this will be enough, Maybe i can do 2 intake 2 exhaust should be ok. My grow space is small. She looks ok just on occasion sum droopy leaves, but seems to go away then re appear
-swish

Heres a few pics for the Day
Few pics of my bitch
and the fans i hooked up (Guessing i need more)
thx guys
-swisha

I was told that drooping of the leaves tends to be because of overwatering

If you said you experience drooping and then back to no-drooping and back again

you probably are doing it right :thumbsup:

yo rev seems to happen when i put her in my hot ass cab. in the morning i put her out for sum sunshine and she perks right back up. im workin on the ventilation today ill post sum pics so u guys can see in detail the inside of my full grow space.
-swish;)

Half way decent Setup. But any opinions appreciated.
-swisha

looking like you're getting things going. always improve what you can. are those fans all exhausting out, or do you have some doing intake? if one is blowing out and one blowing in, switch the intake to exhaust. just make sure all your fans for air EXCHANGE are exhausting. pick up a small (4-6") fan for RECIRCULATING the air. you want negative pressure in there.

as a side note, check this pic for an idea of what my CFL fixtures look like. Total cost for EVERYTHING was about $40.00

gG ~Nice im deff gonna try that lightining situation. as for my fans the 2together are blowing fresh air in an that fan on the top is blowing out of the box. Should i make them all exhaust or what. i only have 3 fans for right now i am planning on makin 2 intake and 2 exhaust at the top. think this will be good?

well basically, i'd said no fans for intake. you want as much suction as you can get. with fans blowing in AND out, you create positive pressure. you want negative pressure. if i were you, i'd switch all fans to exhaust on top. if you can and that cabinet is yours (or no one cares about it), i'd cover the holes from the 2 doing intake now, and create a passive intake (no fan, just a hole) at the lowest possible point in the box. cold air sinks and all. you should already be seeing temps drop but that should really help. if i can ever help you with instructions and a parts list for that light setup i use, just ask!

ok the cab is my g/f's so i can only fuck the cealing and that 1 saide where the 2 fans are. Ok so im gonna leave those two holes there then cut 2 more holes on the top and use all exhaust. so would be 3 fans venting out of the top of the cab. Now should i put the 4-6' fan in the cab or on top of it blowing all the exhausted air out of the closet.
thx for the helps
-Swish

Also u think it would benifit if i just switched the two fans on the side to exhaust or should they really be on the cealing?

it would be best for them to be on top but the side might work ok. the 4-6" fan is just to have some gentle breeze blowing across the plants. this will help circulate the co2 evenly and a gentle breeze will make the main stem and side shoots stronger and able to support heavier buds. :) you only need enough of a breeze inside for the leaves to barely flutter.

Aite thanks for the advice. Im gonna try to get this done quick. Might i remind you i am doing all this with parents home and they still have no clue wtf i am doing. So i hope to keep this stealthyness going =D

well good luck. if the stink gets too bad, i'd just up and tell them and hope for the best. they'd find the stinky things anyway.

Yeh once they see the plant almost to bud they might as well let it bud instead of throwing it away. They smoke and the economy is fucked up plus we are broke with no weed like we used to. ill just use the excuse.. i was trying to save us money :-D, and look i even used energy saving bulbs!

yo thx for all yo helps grahms

Here is a few Update pics of the plants Growth =D
Looks good as far as i can tell. Except for that dark stem. Anyone know why the stem is almost a purple color? or is the regular
-swisha

That's a sweet setup GG. Do you use any side lighting or does all your light come from above? What wattage are you using?

YGB

Swish- not a problem. wish i knew this site when i was starting up. but i count my blessing. got my ebb/flow hydro system for free from my brother-in-law, clones from a friend and the lighting was cheap. as far as those side shoots go, i wouldn't worry yet, but if it continues, i look into any possible nute deficiencies. after i finish typing this i'll do a quick look for any posts on that and put a link in here for ya.

YGB - thank you. i used to use 2 4' fluoros on either side but it got in the way of my bushy bastards and was causing algae build-up in my reservoir (still haven't light-proofed it :( ) my current plan is to get some 2' fluoros for either side. for now though yes, all light comes from above. the wattage is: 6 26W cool white and 6 23W warm white. parts list or instructions? just ask.

oh yeah. the 23W are 1600 lumens apiece and the 26W are 1750 lumens. grand total = 20100 lumens in a 4.5 sq. foot area. not great not horrible.

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Originally Posted by SwishaSweetz4Me

Here is a few Update pics of the plants Growth =D
Looks good as far as i can tell. Except for that dark stem. Anyone know why the stem is almost a purple color? or is the regular
-swisha

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Lookin great!

all mine have always had purple stems in the beginning until they grow a lil older nothing to worry about!

shit crazy ass night. went to the casino won sum money. only 100 but hey sumthin i only came with 20. So i left the fan on and my pops was all up in ym shit. Luckily i had it locked but they where like wtf are the fans for. So i just told my dad bought the shit. he didn't say kill it and he said just let it grow for now till i think about it. so maybe this will be good if i don't have to hide, maybe i can get a better grow space in the basement or the attic :thumbsup:
will add pics of plant sumtime soon

i'm happy for you! hopefully pops sees the light and allows it to continue. seriously though, show him what you know about cultivating and constantly remind him (and your ma) that this is personal use only growing, and you are VERY concerned about keeping it on the DL. i think if he knew that you knew what you were doing and weren't gonna go on a huge scale, he'd be cool. little story: i was 8 years old looking for my dad before he left for work. looked everywhere, couldn't find him. wanted to borrow money for a comic book. finally found him in his bedroom at the computer desk with the monitor off, and his head down. got super worried and asked what he was doing. he said (greatest parents ever) "rolling some doobies for the drive home after work." i didn't know what that was and he explained it to me as best he could and told me that if/when i decided to try it, to try it with him. i did when i was 13, and haven't looked back. to this day i grow or find it for them. i am blessed.

The grow continues. I bought sum mylar.I think. I looked for an emergency blanket. I found one for 1.99. On the package it says Aluminized Emergency blanket. Nothign about mylar tho. Looks pretty reflective. I turned all fans to exhaust and i put a small 3.5 inch 12v DC fan from the store in there for air circ. Ill update pics soon

sweet deal but watch those temps with the blanket. those are designed to trap heat. best of luck.

Hell yeah it making it hot as fuck. I got all 3 vents going but still hotttt :S2: anyways im gonna try to make more holes in the top and vent more i guess . So still no fan to bring in fresh air?

pic

looks great tho!

naw i'd stick to passive intakes. wasn't the inside of that cabinet white? if it was, you're probably not getting much more reflective-ness (is that a word?) with that blanket.
mylar - 95% reflective
flat white paint - ~90% reflective
aluminum foil - ~50% relective

i don't know if i'd keep that in there. maybe just get some flat white spray paint (assuming the white in there is glossy white) and get mom and dad involved with a little painting day. :)

the wall in the back was glass with a white wall behind it i coved that wil sum of the blanket. Another wall was brown i covered that. 1 wall is white i left what. then i covered 1 of the sliding glass doors. im just gonna try to get more powerful fans. see how that works. sry for shit pics the good camera is fucked but. hope shit stays good thx for help

yeah fans are the answer if you want to keep that. i'd pick up one of the 6" inline duct fans from lowe's or home depot. got mine at menards for $35. 250CFM. lemme see if i can find a link... there we go.

6 In. 110VAC 250CFM In-Line Duct Fan - 3011 at The Home Depot

yo my bad dude i know nothing about lighting and I'm 16 without my license so i dont get out much.

can you just pick up the socket things at like home depot or what?

yes for 2.00 - 3.00 USDollars

Update shitty pics sry

Aite so i tried to LST today. And i broke off the upcoming node =\. Think this will fuck it up. The stem from the LST look like it fucked up a few split marks. I dunno ill send pics later. See how it goes =D hope for the best