Episode 3...Revenge of the LED

The ganja fairies must be on my side!!! thanks stinks and WH....lol
we have 99% germ!!!!!!
can i get a WOOT!!!!
AND.....the Church sprouted!!!! fuck yeah...The SNLxNH will be getting its own thread...got some plans for them:thumbsup: that will be started soon as i can get the propogation tray from under these....

9- Plan B Smashberry unsexed (purple kush x blueberry)-8 sprout!!
8- Hindu Kush x Black Indica unsexed-8 sprout!!
3- Blue Russian bagseed unsexed- supposed to be the ish!!!-2 sprout!!
3- Church feminized...(fingers crossed)-one taproot already out..other 2 look promising!!!

So even if only the one church grows out...I will hermie her cause i know some peeps who may want some more viable church seeds....wish me luck all......

pics when they are sprouted.....
WT

WT and DB-- best of luck this time. I'll be watching and prayin for ya :rastasmoke:

DrSpiggity

thanks:thumbsup:
WT

so they are all in thier cups....i think they wil break ground tomorrow...then the lights go on 24 hr (pics then:thumbsup:)....got 24 in there...and from 4-12 SNLxNH going under the single...depends on how i grow em....any suggestions?....psssst...WH?...zome?...:jointsmile :
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whiskeytango

SNS, I may be a dumbass but with the changing names of your grows how do I keep up with your site beside having to remember the different names of the grow logs? I used to be able to just look at the opening screen for the different sites and grows.

i only have 3...if you go to your User CP....you can set it to automatically subscribe to any thread you post on....then just keep going to oyur user CP.....that is all;)
WT

I always just keep up with your threads, because they always have the action. I like your style, my friend. Yeah, I know, you wanna borrow my leisure suit - maybe down the road. I'm still hopin' to fit into again, and I'm not givin' up just yet. But, hang in there, as those dang buttered, syrupy biscuits always flippin' tempt me, so it may be yours sooner rather than later.

I can't wait to see some pictures, because I can rarely read when I am able to really visit this board!

Be good out there!

lets get this party started.

ready to see how the LED's work out this time around.

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i only have 3...if you go to your User CP....you can set it to automatically subscribe to any thread you post on....then just keep going to oyur user CP.....that is all;)
WT

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LOL, you are SO patient Whiskey, lol
you guy's have become guru's around here, and rightly so, lol

anyway, i've made the popcorn, now the show can begin

seriously though, may the God's shine down upon your grow!

thanks guys!!! :thumbsup:
WT

Oh ya this thread is going to:thumbsup: be hot.

just checked on the babies...and there are like 10 heads popped outta the dirt..so I went ahead and turned on the lights....

let the journey begin:joint1:
whiskeytango

*subscribed*

This will be a good one, those are some real nice strains....I'll be watching....
You got any bud from the last harvest?? How is it now, that it has been cured?? Maybe pix??

I used to be able to just look at the opening screen for the different sites and grows.

I look for the stars for rated threads. ;)

lol...i know shov...I miss the opening screen

church eh? cant say ive ever heard of it.. looking forward to the pics

my Church seeds came from the sky...:thumbsup:

So we again have 100% on seeds germinated right now....second true leaves poking out...only 1 church made it though...gave up on the other two...one of them opened and shed the hull, but remained in a embryonic ball i guess...so Ima leave it in the dirt another day or 2....would post pics, but the look like seedlings in styrofoam cups...nothin interesting....lol
SNLxNH getting wet sat!!!!
whiskeytango

how would you compare the procyons to a MH 400???

id say the procyon is equivalent to a 600MH, or a good 400HPS....IMHO of course....:jointsmile:

subscribed again :D

hmmm U DONT SAY.... thats that is good to know... gonna ask santa for one for xmas... it was that or a volcano...

So you would deffinitely use it for a veg on ur moms???

cuz I', thinking that + 2x 600HPS... right nowI've got 1k MH.. which is awesome... covers 6x8 room plus babies on the outskirts... but I need to optimise my wattage and for that I need a seperate mom/veg and a propper flower room... maybe some light movers too....

sorry.. that ended up being a book... just got some wickid sativa and my mind is racing

oh even with all the red....with a lil fox farm..the procyons exploded the veg growth for sure...definitely a good mum light....we had a 18 in plant with 8 laterals, and only tipped once...LEDs are great for veg all around...just recently they have gotten the flowering good...so in my sativa induced mind as well...i say for moms, a single procyon can do 4x4 very well
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whiskeytango

wt i know you werent sure before, cant remember if you had decided--are you going LST or scrog on these? im doing a procyon grow too (your first log convinced me) in a 2.5'x2.5'x5.5' room and i think im gonna try LST. so i will be watching to see what you choose and how it turns out.

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DrSpiggity

I have been reading about LEDs as grow lights for a while and I can't seem to find leds that cover the proper spectrum. As far as I can tell, photosynthesis peaks at 2 ranges: 660-680 nm and about 430-470 nm. The Procyon light uses Cree lamps if I'm not mistaken and they seem to be able to cover the blue end but not the red. Am I wrong or should the Procyon be supplemented?

Also, has anyone tried using the arrays of low power leds sold on ebay?

LED Engin sells a 10w 660nm red LED.....the procyons are 635 I believe...its still above 90% absorbtion...the 660s are just too expensive....least they were, getting cheaper now....hint hint HGL...lets see a Procyon 2.0....lol
whiskeytango

update....
culled 4...the other 2 churches didnt make it..oh well...the one that popped is on here second set of leaves, with everyone else...and they are FAT little leaflets!!
the other 2 culls where BR..didnt wanna lose those, but for some reason, they sprouted, and shriveled without opening their cotyledons...just a stem and a ball..minus hull....made sure the film from inside the seed was off, and it was...so not sure what happened there...
ALL the others are doing GREAT...they may get a transplant to the 1gals on 7-10 days...except the church, she gets a 3 gal.....lol, may be forcing her to hermie....but defintely breeding her, may use some of her chick pollen on a SNL too....hmmmmm
anyways...alls good in the hood....
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whiskeytango

hey again there whiskey tango. sorry i never went ahead with that grow log but life was just gettin in the way to much......but..........
just as i heard ya mention the 660s, i had been designing a lamp and was goin assemble it for my own grow but as i said earlier, just no time. so i'm havin a guy who does assembly to lay it all down nice on pcb and i'm gonna put it all in a nice lil case with a coolin fan as i'll be consuming about 280W. gonna get a friend to do a grow with it as soon as i've got it as i like it (gettin it as good as i can cause its a nice time consuming hobby at the moment) but i'll try persuade him to post in here. it's gonna have about 9 different frequencies dont have em all with me but its gonna have 60w of 660:thumbsup:
anyhow great to hear the beans have hatched.
much good karma and un-needed luck headin your way
sweet green

all doing GREAT!!!! SNLxNH should be popping tonight :jointsmile:
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whiskeytango

They're looking really good there Stealth.....better than my soil babies at that age. What kind of soil are you using?

actually WH, its a cheap seed starting mix from scotts or miracle gro....they look happy as HELL for their age huh?!?... its made for promoting root growth, mildly nuted....works great, used it for a few years, but wanted to try the FFoF....oops!!!!....lol, wont do that again....I started the thread everyone for my single procyon, SNLxNH yield test grow...hers a link:thumbsup:

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...lst-scrog.html

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whiskeytango

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...oning-log.html

I believe it's this one Stealth.

Looks like your lil' ladies have a good start, WT/SnS! It never fails to amaze me the rapid growth those lil' buggers will undergo. It won't be long, and you'll be puffin' on them! By the way, nice plug on the Procyon above - you're re-thinking the bumper sticker on the pot idea, eh?

AAACK!!! so much for the good start...here we go again with the WTF...even put a pic of the medium for yall....look how LOW the nutes are....this soil cant be hot too....dont get it.....grrrrr
got all 3 procyons on em...cant be burning them...only been lights on for 9 days too

ph=6.6-7.0
humidity=55-60%
temp=78*

ANY ideas?
whiskeytango

bottom leaves feel hard to the touch on the discolored ones too....
WT

is it just me or are only some of those plants affected by this issue? just curious. some of those other little ones look great.

do you leave the lights on 24/7? when i grew mine i just set them to 18/6.. not sure if that would make a difference here.

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AAACK!!! so much for the good start...here we go again with the WTF...even put a pic of the medium for yall....look how LOW the nutes are....this soil cant be hot too....dont get it.....grrrrr
got all 3 procyons on em...cant be burning them...only been lights on for 9 days too

ph=6.6-7.0
humidity=55-60%
temp=78*

ANY ideas?
whiskeytango

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Aloha, WT, and Mahalo.

I'm no expert, but I have been growing under 4 handhewn Led arrays for a while.
I'm also no diplomat so, I'll say up front that you guys are my heros. ;-}.
So please excuse my blunt style as I chip in 2 cents

There's two thing about the styrofoam cups that can give you grief. First, they are a little short for canna-lings.
The first thing a wet bean does is spike a 4" tap root. It curls up at the bottom of a 3" cup and never quite gets over it.
Then there's water retention. Bottom holes only drain when sitting on a porous surface, so we end up punching drain holes in the sides of the cup. That leaves a pool of stagnant water where the tap root is stuck.
If you use any nutes at all, even 1/4 strength, they concentrate
in the stagnant puddle and kick the PH out of range.
In your shoes, I'd get them in the soil right away, and cut the light way back.
Then I'd raise the light until they stretch, then hold it there and throw about 15Watts of blue on 'em to stop the stretch and keep the internodes tight.

Dey prolly gonna be alright. Jus' no love 'em too much.
<clink tinkle>

Good luck.
Wee Zard

WeeZard just blasted my mind with some serious insight into the 3" cup. Maybe you could use a cookie cooling rack to set larger cups on with holes poked into the bottom to allow drainage into your tray?

Back to the bathroom, then back to the movie....

Weezard does have a good point there... try what he said and transplant them into something deeper with better drainage.

I hope this batch can recover!

If not, just use taller cups next time with more drainage holes... and shoot for a 50/50 mix of perlite and plain potting soil.

good luck to your grow man.