Growin sum Trainwreck, mystery seed frm dub sack..w/PICS, need help!

Howzit peeps, Im new to growing, started 2 months ago, and am tryna get serious, and better at growing, since i love buds, and wanna grow for a while. Rite now, Ive had 1 mystery seed thats 1 month 1/2 old since sprout, and 5 TRAINWRECK seeds that are approx 2 weeks old since sprouting.

Currently, My grow space is a Hydrohut Mini 3 X 3 X 6.5
Using Foxfarm Ocean forrest soil w/perilite
Ferts- Foxfarm Grow Big, Tiger Bloom
Thermo/hygrometer; 1 oscilating fan; One 4in Eco plus inline fan 170 CFM; For VEG-One 2ft Sun System T5 High Output 4 blulb fixture(2 cool, 2 warm); For FLOWERING-One 400 watt HPS.
(Ducting, cooltube or coolable reflector comming soon)


POSSIBLE PROBLEM W/MYSTERY SEED - K, Iv had this mystery seed that sprouted in a day 1/2, put it under a single lamp fluoro for 3 weeks to close to a month w/seed started soil, then transplanted it to a bigger pot with Fox Farm Ocean forrest soil w/1/4 more perilite, then placed under the 4 bulb High Output Fluoro lamp. NEWAYS..Its bin a month half since sprout, the color is ok, not yellow or nething, but the thing looks like a midget? Only 4 inches tall, there are 5's, but all pretty small. Does neone know if sumthings wrong w/the plant or if it just needs time? 2 weeks into veg already.

My Five Trainwrecks seem to be doing well, even the one that had one if its water leaves tear off:( is gring well:D..dont how itll affect it later since its only bin a couple day since that happened..

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The one in the big pot is the mystery plant..pic of the top view, and Video will be posted tomorrow. if u have an idea of y u think its still soo small, please let me know.

Awesome, those robots are super funny! If I were you though, I would bury the stem a little bit, they are stretching to far.

The one in the big pot looks fine it should start taking off when you start feeding it. If you want a little more strech just raise your light a little and it will strech its legs so to speak. The smaller ones need to be buried a little more and they need to be closer to the lights so they wont strech. All in all they look fine just play with your lighting a little bit and you will be fine.

I agree w/ BigWeed. I think all ur babies look good. U should def. lower the lights on the lil guys and burry them a little bit more. As for ur "big pot" I think it looks pretty good and green :thumbsup:. How much of that grow big/gallon are u using when u feed the big guy?

I like the "holders" too. <G>
Sounds like your on the right track here.

Shovelhandle

Koo! Oh Cwesto, I started fertilizing only 5 days ago for the big midget..1 tea spoon/gallon, and watered twice in 5 days.

Heres sum more pics: 11/5/07
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What are your temps under the lights

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Originally Posted by BigWeed

What are your temps under the lights

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temps are usually between 83-87 in light..sumtimes mid 70's.
Also, mid 70's to early 80's when dark.

Humidity stays between 45-58%. Mostly at 50-55 though

BigPot looks so pitiful. something is wrong with him :/
and yea, burry those other suckers more and lower lights/

don't know for sure what is causing pitiful BigPot, but i think that's what BigWeed might have been questioning for... sry. not much help here, but i can guess it might have to do with ferts if he is the only one being fed now.

Good luck! :smokin:


EDIT: possible overwatering. let em dry out a bit.

yea i dont think 1 tsp/gal of gro big would do that to bigpot. First see if overwatering is he prob, which it kind of does look like. Maybee if its not overwatering and lowering the lights doesnt get his leafs standing up, I may think about throwing some mycorrhizal fungi on top of the soil b4 ur next watering. It is used to stimulate root uptake of nutrients, u can get it at ur local indoor gardening store. All u do is sprinkle it on top ur soil b4 u water and it seeps down into the roots. If that doesnt help then im not too sure. Sorry i cant b of more help

Thanks cwesto! yea, i think ima try buy dat fungi. I dont really think overwatering is the problem..Iv bin doin it every 2 days, just foliage misting daily. More pics will b posted tomorrow:thumbsup:

LMAO at those stem props, funny stuff!
OK you have a few problems here.
First: STOP watering those things! The dirt should be so dry you think it's gonna die.;) For under $10 you can get a penetrating moisture meter that will stop you from drowning your babies.
Second: Those flouro lights should be 1" above the tops, they are stretching to reach the light, help them out a little.
Congrats on growing.

One more thing: Don't feed them until they are 4-6 weeks old. They require only a little bit of moisture and plenty of light right now. Feeding them now will cause ALOT of probs you don't need.

Update 11/13
GROUP PIC:-
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4092.jpg

Trainwreck 1[below]:- Transplanted to 3 gallon pot, lookin nice and sharp..DAY 22 from sprout. Day 3 VEG
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4088.jpg
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Trainwreck 2:- Still kinna small, similar similar to 3. DAY 20 from sprout.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4097.jpg

Trainwreck 3:- Small, not bad, like 2^ DAY 20 from sprout.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4096.jpg

Trainwreck 4:- Bigger than 2 and 3, sharp. DAY 19 from sprout.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4090.jpg
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Trainwreck 5:- WoW big, wants to stretch, gonna transplant soon..when I get couple CFL's. Only DAY 15 from sprout!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4086.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4087.jpg

Mystery Strain(Bigg midget):- Im gonna sound stupid now guys:wtf:..I took alook at my calender again, and realised big midget's not 1 month 1/2 old..its 33 days old..Neways, its spreadin more, and guys, please help me with sum pest control items I can buy..seen couple flea like bugs inside:( and sum signs on bottom leaves. But yea, I consider this 1 WEEK, 3 Days in VEG.
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Originally Posted by spongebobsmokepants

LMAO at those stem props, funny stuff!
OK you have a few problems here.
First: STOP watering those things! The dirt should be so dry you think it's gonna die.;) For under $10 you can get a penetrating moisture meter that will stop you from drowning your babies.
Second: Those flouro lights should be 1" above the tops, they are stretching to reach the light, help them out a little.
Congrats on growing.

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Thanks bro, yea, I think they stretched far cuz I left the light kinna high first 5-6 days thinking it'd be bad for em, bein closer straight from sprout. But yea, Ill water a lil less.. Oh, and do u know how much water I should feed for the 3 gallon pot? And I wanna get 4 CFL's. Could u tell me wut kind would be appropriate for adding 2 on each end, rite below the light I have now? Sorry if askin for too much lol. I looked at ur log n figured u know wut ur doin:rastasmoke:

I would guess between 1/4 and 1/2 gallon. I let mine get really dry, then water about 1/3 what I think it needs and leave it for a few minutes wile I tend to others. That gives the water time to absorb into the medium. I water 3 times in a ten minute period. I like to see about 1/2 cup come out the bottom into the drip tray. Before I leave the grow I empty all the drain pans. Don't worry about getting the light too close CFL's will only hurt the plant if it touches it for an extended period of time.
Thanks for stopping by my grow!
Peace:smokin:

sup fellow hayn
dont know how i missed this thread but ill check it out now. from what i read sounds like you gave kahalahydro a visit for supplies or am wrong? a bit pricey there so i order my stuff online.

beside the initial stretching they look ok, nodes are alot closer. pots are a bit to big for my preference but to each his own. i like using tall 1 gallon pots for plants the size of the one in the 3 gallon.

for the cfls you want a kelvin rating of 5000 or higher to veg and 3000 or lower to flower. i got 8 2700k cfls for flowering at walmart and its working out nice.


for watering ill go with spongebobsmokepants and say 1/4 - 1/2 gal if its really dry. i feed a 1/2 gallon every other day to my girls in 5 gallon pots depending on how heavy they are when i pick them up. i water basically just like spongebobsmokepants style except i put them in my bathtub to drain excess water and its really sunny in there when i water them.


cool stem holders, where'd you get um?

irie would that mean 4000k wood work:wtf: for both?

if your gonna get one type get a flowering spectrum bulb. 4000k might work ok but im not sure how much your gonna yield from that spectrum.

i used them for veg im using 400hps for flower

was thinking of using them to start flowering the next lot

i like the plant holders brad

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Originally Posted by iriebowl

sup fellow hayn
dont know how i missed this thread but ill check it out now. from what i read sounds like you gave kahalahydro a visit for supplies or am wrong? a bit pricey there so i order my stuff online.

beside the initial stretching they look ok, nodes are alot closer. pots are a bit to big for my preference but to each his own. i like using tall 1 gallon pots for plants the size of the one in the 3 gallon.

for the cfls you want a kelvin rating of 5000 or higher to veg and 3000 or lower to flower. i got 8 2700k cfls for flowering at walmart and its working out nice.


for watering ill go with spongebobsmokepants and say 1/4 - 1/2 gal if its really dry. i feed a 1/2 gallon every other day to my girls in 5 gallon pots depending on how heavy they are when i pick them up. i water basically just like spongebobsmokepants style except i put them in my bathtub to drain excess water and its really sunny in there when i water them.


cool stem holders, where'd you get um?

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HO! Thanks bra, shit..dint think neone frm da island wud post. Yea, got the soil for TWICE da amount at kahala..shii..just couldnt wait for online order cuz plants were 2 weeks old already. But yea, I got 4 cfl's the other nite. 2 Cool natural 20 watt; 2 cool daylight 26 watt..idk if same thing or not, but dey 6500k. Yea, ur rite bou the 3 gallon thing..jus dint wanna transplant too many times cuza my 2 outta 5 recent shetty experiences..but yea, nxt grow maybe.
Oh yea, do u know nething i can get for gnats or other pests? I seen few flyin round, and possible signs on big midget's lower leaves. Plz leme know.
Pics will b posted tomorrow.
Mahaloz brada:rastasmoke:

Oh yea, iriebowl, and Smokenss. The plant holders are by Qee. Yea, I was into vinyl n stuff for a while, had em layin around, so figured..Y not use em for dat lol

fungus gnats are a part of growing in da islands LOL nah nah. I dont wanna jinx myself since i havent seen any in a few weeks but i keep a layer of 1-2 inches of vermiculite on the top of my soil to make it harder for them to lay their eggs. kill em when you see em, they usually come out when i water so thats when i hunt them down. hate them buggers.

those cfls should be good for vegging them. youll get the hang of transplanting, now i can transplant without stressing the plant at all pretty much. i had a lot of practice when i had a backyard to work with :(

i read in another thread that you can burry the stems a bit. but the holders r a cool idea:smokin:

thanks guys^. Where can I get Vemiculite here? I heard its hard to get now.. Is there nething else I could use?

try homedepot or city mill they always have something to buy lol. last time they didnt have vermiculite but foam rock so i got that instead. check STAR Garden too my aunty goes there and she said its a good garden shop. if you still cant find any just use anything to cover up the top of your pots (ie: foil, cardboard, paper)

where you get your trainwreck beans? i wanna try get some mango and hashberry but still iffy about ordering. my friend gave me some purple type seeds she had so thats my next grow along some other stuff i got. i wanna germ them already but dont have anymore space.



stay irie

Update 11/17

Group pic:-
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4099.jpg

Trainwreck 1(day 7 veg):-
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Trainwreck 2(Day Day 25 Since sprout):-
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Trainwreck 3(Day 24 Since sprout):- [I think I really messed up on transplanting to 1 gallon pot..its alone under a CFL now..I know, was really early to transplant, dont wanna explain, but yea.. How long bfore I know its dying? Its looked the same for couple days now]
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Trainwreck 4(Day 1 Veg; Day 25 Since sprout):-
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Trainwreck 5(Day 1 veg; Day 20 Since sprout):-
[Transplanted to proly 2 gallon pot]
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Bag seed Big Midget(2 weeks into Veg):-
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Can sum1 tell me wut u thinks wrong wit summa the bottom leaves? Is it bugs or wut? This leaf, and 2 more are like that:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4109.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4110.jpg

Yo Iriebowl, I was lucky..got the beans from my boy dat came bak from Oregan..well, he got em here though, from a friend dat got em from Cali I tink lol.
I bought sum B 52 seeds a month before dat, and non sprouted..was hella mad! Dey just sent me 10 more though! If u like, I can give u couple. Leme know bada

hmmm i might have to take you up on that offer. all i got is some really old beans from an old hermie i seeded years back. plus the occasional bagseed.

those leaves might be yellowing due to age so no worries on that, but it could be soil PH. if you got a ph meter check the runoff when you water them.

stay irie

UPDATE 11/26/07

Big Midget(Bag seed)- Day 26 Veg, and placed under HPS..
Not lookin too good..small Bottom leaves dyin again, and plucked.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4152.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4181.jpg

I either topped or FIM'd it bout 8-9 days ago..dono if this da way its supposed to look:wtf::
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4182.jpg

Summa da bottom leaves I plucked today..
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4177.jpg

Alone on the Lanai(Balcony) now
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4184.jpg

Trainwreck 1(Day 17 Veg):- Lookin good
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4164.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4163.jpg

Trainwreck 2(Day 10 Veg):- Small, Transplanted..any pointers guys?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4176.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4186.jpg

Trainwreck 3(Day 9 Veg):- Hella small since I f**ked up the transplant..Is it alive, worth wasting light on?
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Trainwreck 4(Day 10 Veg):- Not bad, gona get transplanted soon.
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http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4185.jpg

Trainwreck 5( day 10 Veg):- Yes, youngest overall, but BIGGEST, and best lookin one soo far!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4162.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4175.jpg

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Originally Posted by braddhaEEE

UPDATE 11/26/07

Big Midget(Bag seed)- Day 26 Veg, and placed under HPS..
Not lookin too good..small Bottom leaves dyin again, and plucked.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4152.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4181.jpg

I either topped or FIM'd it bout 8-9 days ago..dono if this da way its supposed to look:wtf::
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4182.jpg

Summa da bottom leaves I plucked today..
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4177.jpg

Alone on the Lanai(Balcony) now
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4184.jpg

Trainwreck 1(Day 17 Veg):- Lookin good
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4164.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4163.jpg

Trainwreck 2(Day 10 Veg):- Small, Transplanted..any pointers guys?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4176.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4186.jpg

Trainwreck 3(Day 9 Veg):- Hella small since I f**ked up the transplant..Is it alive, worth wasting light on?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4169.jpg

Trainwreck 4(Day 10 Veg):- Not bad, gona get transplanted soon.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4174.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4185.jpg

Trainwreck 5( day 10 Veg):- Yes, youngest overall, but BIGGEST, and best lookin one soo far!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4162.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4175.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...E/IMG_4161.jpg

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ur gonna have to get some clones off of those things later on for shure:greenthumb::rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by iriebowl

hmmm i might have to take you up on that offer. all i got is some really old beans from an old hermie i seeded years back. plus the occasional bagseed.

those leaves might be yellowing due to age so no worries on that, but it could be soil PH. if you got a ph meter check the runoff when you water them.

stay irie

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Yo Irie, wut side u live? Maybe we can help eachother out..u gimme pointers bein more experienced, I can proly dish out few B-52 seeds:thumbsup:..jus leme sample wen pao grow:stoned:

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Originally Posted by Hennessy1414

ur gonna have to get some clones off of those things later on for shure:greenthumb::rastasmoke:

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Yea, proly off Treck 1, and 5:smokin:.. still gon wait a lil longer though..see how they turn out in a week

you might wanna dump the smaller trainwrecks or move them on the side and give the better plants more of the light. doesnt look like you clipped enough to "fim" i can see the new shoot coming up from the middle instead of two from the sides. i stay on the south side, so just lemme know da scoops.

i can spare some cloning hormone if you need some.

stay irie

How far are you keeping the light away from the plant? Braddha if you wanna learn alot about growing herb then get jorge cervantez's book "MARIJUANA Horticulture, The Indoor/Outdoor
MEDICAL Grower's Bible". Thats a good book... ive read it many times..

or watch the dvd "ultimate grow DVD" by jorge c.

Ill get sum nice pics posted later tonite guys..Treck 1 shot up:stoned: