Christians on board?

Hey all,

I've been surprised to see several posts on here coming from a Christian perspective. A Bible-believing Christian myself, I'm curious how many of you are like me, not just Christians because we were baptized or have the surname Smith or whatever, but cannabis users who actually practice and live the Christian faith. I include all forms, Gnostic, Coptic, Orthodox, Catholic, Rastafari, you name it. And please no bashing of anyone else's choice. If you are non-Christian feel free to say so too, but please keep your comments about your own life only. I'd also like to hear how you reconcile cannabis use and your faith, if yours is one in which the use of cannabis is generally considered a sin. Thanks, and I look forward to all the great posts out there!!

I live by common law standards, the original law. Don't hurt anyone else, don't break or take their belongings, and don't engage in fraud in your contracts. Don't impede on anyone else's rights unless they, directly conflict with the law. If everyone could abide by these rules, the world would be much safer, and everyone would be free.

I reconcile my cannabis use by the fact that I'm not hurting anyone. If someone doesn't like it, they have the right not to like it, but they shouldn't have the right to impose their dislikes upon me, as my cannabis use doesn't affect them at all.

Christian here!!! :jointsmile:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life"

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

I live by common law standards, the original law. Don't hurt anyone else, don't break or take their belongings, and don't engage in fraud in your contracts. Don't impede on anyone else's rights unless they, directly conflict with the law. If everyone could abide by these rules, the world would be much safer, and everyone would be free.

I reconcile my cannabis use by the fact that I'm not hurting anyone. If someone doesn't like it, they have the right not to like it, but they shouldn't have the right to impose their dislikes upon me, as my cannabis use doesn't affect them at all.

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wtf lol,did u read what u just wrote? but does 'nt ur weed use conflict with the law? and common law standards wtf is that where did it come from? just some old guy from way back...

my avatar should say it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

wtf lol,did u read what u just wrote? but does 'nt ur weed use conflict with the law? and common law standards wtf is that where did it come from? just some old guy from way back...

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Common Law is not "Law", it's the exact laws that i've mentioned up there.

Do not harm any person.
Do not damage or take another's property.
Do not engage in fraud in your contracts.

That's all their is to common law. It's the original law from many countries, The States included.

Well... i dont know if i can say im Christhian... i was born and raised Christian, but then i left my parents house, and didnt went to the church anymore. In the meanwhile, i started to learn about oriental religions, mainly buddhism, and also the way of the knowledge (don Juan teachings), so now im a complex mix of many religions.
But i try to merge them as nicely as possible, so for anybody that looks at me from the outside, would say im very Christian... what is partially true. Im Christian, but not only Christian.
And i dont think the act of smoking weed is a sin. The sin is what you do while stoned. If you smoke and do wrong things, the wrong things you did are the sin, not the fact of smoking itself.
But for me weed always was a great help for the spirituality. After i started to smoke, i became a FAR more spiritual person. So, for me, weed is a God's gift, to allow we poor humans to get closer to Him and His knowledge and wisdom.

Well, I'm a red letter Christian, I only focus on what Jesus had to say. I don't go to church but do go to Worship sometimes to network and make new friends, I don't think weed really interferes with my spirituality or helps, the only things I keep in mind is that the only thing Jesus wants you to do for him is help the needy and not brag about it, by helping someone in need and then blurting it out. You will not be rewarded... but, if you do a good deed and keep it to yourself and the person you helped, father will reward you in the afterlife. For more info read through Matthew 5-7 :)

Happy Tokin' =]
Beads :jointsmile:

im totally christian... i had a stint of athiesm and some religious exploration but that was a weird time in my life. after seeing my way out i found god and accepted jesus into my life. i sound like a fundamentalist dont i? im not... dont worry

Good replies everyone! txbuddz, being born and raised in TX myself I think that's a pretty cool avatar, although, it does look a bit like sacrilege to me. ;) I'll accept it on this messageboard but if I see it in front of your house I'll have some harsh words for you, lol. xbeadsx, don't the Xs mean you are straightedge? I'm curious if you make an exception for pot or if I'm misreading that. Peace.

catholic..kind of...im changing to a non denominational church like my parents.

I'm a Christian though I cant say my religious beliefs all fit under Christianity... Ive drawn important principles from other religions (and some modern physics) too....but am a Christian at the core.

I am a practicing christian. I like to smoke before church as it does help me with focusing on the word and also feeling the spirit when it prompts me.

Bogart, I like to smoke to pray and stuff too. I've always been too nervous to go into church stoned.. (Pretty conservative church)

I would say I am a Christian. I would say I am most like the early church, meeting in houses, very free-form you might say. I read the bible and thats what I believe, and I won't let what someones opinion behind a microphone affect my faith, but rather review it in my own time to see if I share the view with what I have found in my bible. Marijuana has brought me a lot of happiness in hard times and has encouraged a more active pray life in my situation... not to mention it relieves a lot of pain from my body that for the most part chemical medicine compounds don't seem to help.

It is different living in a world where doctrines have overridden the word, but thats what I try and stick to... the word! As xbeadsx said, its what you do while your high that determines whether you should be doing it or not (imo) read Romans 13:14 for a good example of certain things being harmful to some and uplifting to others.

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I live by common law standards, the original law. Don't hurt anyone else, don't break or take their belongings, and don't engage in fraud in your contracts. Don't impede on anyone else's rights unless they, directly conflict with the law. If everyone could abide by these rules, the world would be much safer, and everyone would be free.

I reconcile my cannabis use by the fact that I'm not hurting anyone. If someone doesn't like it, they have the right not to like it, but they shouldn't have the right to impose their dislikes upon me, as my cannabis use doesn't affect them at all.

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my way of life would be like this.. .only i believe in karma, no supreme being, just a a force beyond explination of equalness...

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Originally Posted by Bogart

I am a practicing christian. I like to smoke before church as it does help me with focusing on the word and also feeling the spirit when it prompts me.

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you only think it does cause your stoined, lets be honest.:)

I am absolutely a Christian. It is my opinion that using the truths we experience when stoned (universal love, importance in art and music etc), we can further explore our faith. Plus, I read Daniel when high and it completely changed my perspective on how the Bible was written. As sorgens said, it's about what's uplifting to others. If I am being a stumbling block for someone by smoking around them or being high near them, then that is wrong. Also, though, I think it is absurd to assume that weed is a bad thing. As Ben Harper (a Christian) said: "before you knock it, try it first." Also also, in the first freaking CHAPTER of the bible, it basically promotes the use of any green plants on this earth: "3 Every moving thing can be food for you, as I gave you the green plants, I give them to you."

Hello,

I am a Christian. I havn't been a Christian for many years, and I'm not really that old, I'm 22.


There is a lot I can say, and when someone asks me about my beliefs I am sometimes tempted to start typing a many paged discourse on my beliefs, but everything in it's proper place and time.

I am a Christian, and while I don't go to church I would love to have a family of believers to go to find fellowship and worship together. I havn't found anyone who I have found is compatible enough with what i believe to call a friend. How can two walk together, except they agree.

I'm not sure how everyone views fundamentalism or how they personally see it or define it, but I suppose I would be extremely fundamental except for my smoking marijauna.

I used to be a total pothead rocker and one of the biggest "potheads" in my neighborhood, but now I have a much different view. I see it now as a medicinal herb to be used in moderadtion, not something that by nature has anything to do with a spirit of rebellion or counterculture.

I like being sober much more, but I find that the suffering I go through emotionally, spiritually and physically can be so harsh sometimes that marijauna does a great deal to help me overcome these daily challanges and I see that as a gift of God and give him thanks. I wish I had a vaporizer really, because i see the act of smoking anything into my lungs as harmful. I know in moderation though, the harmful effects are practically nothing, and I hope to find a better way of ingestion soon. I also see the act of smoking as a form of ritual as something that I believe to be spiritually inatractive to say the least . Notwithstanding, incense is a different matter.

As was noted above the 1st Chapter of Genesis does iclude marijauna in God's delcaration that plants were originally given to us for food.

29Then God said, "Behold, (AK)I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;

30and (AL)to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so.

While marijauna is not smoked for food, it is defenitely consumed, and furthermore when eaten it's medical effects can indeed be felt as well. In fact it's first use as a medicine was through ingestion, and smoking marijauna only gained popular within the past few centuries as tobacco use became widespread.

The core of my faith is abiding in God's love and Him abiding in me by keeping his righteousness and commandments (john 15), most importantly loving God with all my heart mind soul and strength and loving my neighbor as I would want to be loved. I trust and obey my Father and Lord Jesus Christ. I work to be perfect, even as the Father is perfect (Matthew 5:47-48), and allowing his grace and power to work in me leading me into all truth, perfecting me in righteousness, and comforming me to the image of his beloved son.

I have a rare faith (not that being special is important to me), and I enjoy talking to others about my faith.

I've recently become a spiritual person. It has all made sense to me. I wear a sterling silver cross around my neck. I say the 'Our Father' Prayer when i wake up and before i go to sleep. I praise Jah before i smoke cannabis. I recently went to church with my grandparents while i was away for a few days, out of choice, and thouroughly enjoyed it. For Rastas, the body is the temple, however i feel i will still go to a christian church aswell. At the moment in my life, I live in London, England. Ganja is not legal, it is tolerated more then most places though, However, after this last year i shall move to Amsterdam. In my job at the moment i am not allowed to have a beard... They said they prefer short hair and my girl says the same. As soon as i move to dam i am growing my dreads and beard in dedication to Jah and i will be able to freely express my faith in the highest possible way. My beliefs and philosophy may confuse some people but i am content and am completely clear. Praise Jah and may peace be with you.

My family is catholic though I am a firm atheist. Though I respect others right to worship whatever way they wish...as long as I don't have to be involved in ANY way. I want absolutely NO religion in my house. I will raise my children to be atheist when I have them. When I get married I will not have ANY religion involved. Common sense runs my life.

Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal. These are principles which every man, of every faith can embrace.
These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behaviour. And those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
-The Boondock Saints

I am a christian, though I disagree with many aspects of the church. I believe that while the church may have started out good, through time and the corruption of power, and the oppression of so many, the church has left the "true path" and forged their own, which I don't agree with. I try to live my life the best I can, and hope that God will understand I am doing what I feel is right, and am doing my best. besides, maybe when I die I'll be going to chill with Buddha or Allah, I have no way of knowing I am right any more then scholars "knew" the earth was flat. I just make my spiritual way the best I can.

I was born and raised Lutheran, but somewhere along the way, I decided that assuming the existence of something that cannot be proven...well, that just wasn't something I could do. You all know what they say about assuming, blah blah.

But, as long as religion stays out of politics and schools, and as long as nobody tries to proselytize in my direction, well, it's like gay sex between consenting adults in the privacy of their own home -- it doesn't affect me at all, and thus doesn't bother me. More power to yas, if it makes you feel better.

These are all interesting takes. RebGirl, I'm curious... lets say if you had someone over for dinner and they prayed before the meal... would you ask them to leave? Or just for you and John? And if your kids are like "Sally and Jimmy invited us to VBS" would you say they couldn't go? Personally I wouldn't allow wicca or satanism in my house, and if my kids asked if they could go to an equinox ritual or whatever I would say no... but that's because I believe there can be real metaphysical aftereffects. Just curious how it plays from an atheist perspective.

Iam a christian, and I enjoy sharing the hope that is in me to all that rise qustions about
my faith, I dont like arguing with people who just like to argue, but Iam willing to answer
any qustion from people who are searching for answers, and thoses who hearts are open
to honest feed back. peace

JDmarcus, I think you're an okay guy. One question, and if you already answered here then I'm sorry I missed it. How do you reconcile using marijuana with your faith? And re: your post to Bogart, do you think that marijuana can't help you get in the right mindset for spiritual exercise? Because I have definitely been able to communicate with the Holy Spirit much easier if I have smoked cannabis. At least to me, it works.

Christian here.

Never was huge on religion, but I was very involved with the church in my younger years. Went to ccd and whatnot. I consider myself a fairly religious person. I actually had one of the most unbelievable religious experiences of my life about a week ago. It does no justice explaining in words...especially when this high. But it was indescribable and amazing.

Hahahaha this thread reminds me of that episode of "That 70s Show" when the stoner Leo (played by Tommy Chong) goes to church and says he loves it because "that dude up there tells stories and that chick over there wails on the organ" (or something like that).

I was born and raised Christian but haven't practiced in years. Islam has been my current religious interest and I have many Muslim friends - some of the nicest people I have ever met.

But I'm still "soul searching", trying to make some sense of my spirituality. I'm not looking for "organized religion" specifically, I'm open to pretty much anything. I tend to believe in God, but He somehow feels distant.

In the meantime I live my life by a few basic principles:

-Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and equality (I'm all for gay rights/marriage and stuff)
-Don't steal
-Don't murder
-Don't harm innocent animals (I'm a HUGE animal lover)
-Try to do something to make the world a better place (ie. volunteer, charity, etc - give back!)

I'm also trying to figure out where weed fits in to my spirituality as well.

sorry for the long post. Great topic though!

I love mary jane with all my heart. But i love god a trillion times more. Im christian to the core, and i would do anything for him. Although i do smoke weed, I still find it that if im not hurting anyone else, it shouldnt matter as much. and that the punishment should only be as harmful as the thing itself. Some president said that.
Also,,, im not sure.. but isnt there a verse in the bible that says that we should enjoy all seed bearing plants?.. idk for sure. PM me if there is.

It's not what enters a man that defiles him. It's what comes from the heart and out of the mouth that defiles him. :jointsmile:

lol the bible is a interesting fiction story

if you are using pot to get high then you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god, the bible says ,about any substance that affects the workings of your mind or body is a sin if you use it to the point of becoming intoxicated. You can use it but if you use it as a means to alter your state of mind then you are committing a sin of your body which is supposed to be the temple of your god, therfore it is not keepping with the rules of this christian faith. think about that. i am not believer in god or karma. my faith is with myself and my own abilities. Jesus is and was the only true christian imho anything else is a manipulation of his beliefs to subjugate and control the ignorant masses at the time of its creation. look through hjistory and see there has been more death and destruction in the name of the christian god than any other cause ever thought up. keep the teachings of the bible but discard the rest as fodder for the weak minded and easily controlled.

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Hahahaha this thread reminds me of that episode of "That 70s Show" when the stoner Leo (played by Tommy Chong) goes to church and says he loves it because "that dude up there tells stories and that chick over there wails on the organ" (or something like that).

I was born and raised Christian but haven't practiced in years. Islam has been my current religious interest and I have many Muslim friends - some of the nicest people I have ever met.

But I'm still "soul searching", trying to make some sense of my spirituality. I'm not looking for "organized religion" specifically, I'm open to pretty much anything. I tend to believe in God, but He somehow feels distant.

In the meantime I live my life by a few basic principles:

-Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and equality (I'm all for gay rights/marriage and stuff)
-Don't steal
-Don't murder
-Don't harm innocent animals (I'm a HUGE animal lover)
-Try to do something to make the world a better place (ie. volunteer, charity, etc - give back!)

I'm also trying to figure out where weed fits in to my spirituality as well.

sorry for the long post. Great topic though!

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Islam ? ... 'don't murder' ? ... animals ? .. Islam regards animals as filthy, unlcean beasts for the most part, un-worthy of life ... yeah, and we've all seen how they have "strived to make the world a better place" ... don't fall into the "only Islam radicals feel that way" crap ... read the Koran, it is a vicious, murderous cult full of hate for non-believers ... as a Christian, I won't hate you if you turn to Islam, (or anything else), but I will pray for your salvation ... hope you work it all out, while you still have time ... :smokin:

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JDmarcus, I think you're an okay guy. One question, and if you already answered here then I'm sorry I missed it. How do you reconcile using marijuana with your faith? And re: your post to Bogart, do you think that marijuana can't help you get in the right mindset for spiritual exercise? Because I have definitely been able to communicate with the Holy Spirit much easier if I have smoked cannabis. At least to me, it works.

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to be honest I dont smoke weed any more, Iam 47 years old and have smoked it most my life, mostly for mood stabelizer, but in this last year I thought I would give it a try once more for back pain, because of what I have read on it, and that is why I came to this web site to read what other people have to say about it
but it did not help my back pain, and to be honest it just made my mind cloudy. But I dont think we need it as christian because God has given us the holy spirit to guide us, no where in the new testment does it teach that we should smoke bud to have a relationship with God. Now if we smoke bud does that mean we will go to hell?? NO. the apostle paul tells us that all things are lawfull to us, because we are no longer under the law, but not all things are profitable. so it is between YOU an GOD to discuss if it is somthing He wants you to do. I have chosen to keep my mind clear so that when the Lord speaks to me through His spirit, I know that it is him, and I dont have to be concered about the qustion,( was that Him or am I just baked lol ) God bless.:)

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Islam ? ... 'don't murder' ? ... animals ? .. Islam regards animals as filthy, unlcean beasts for the most part, un-worthy of life ... yeah, and we've all seen how they have "strived to make the world a better place" ... don't fall into the "only Islam radicals feel that way" crap ... read the Koran, it is a vicious, murderous cult full of hate for non-believers ... as a Christian, I won't hate you if you turn to Islam, (or anything else), but I will pray for your salvation ... hope you work it all out, while you still have time ... :smokin:

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You haven't read the Bible lately either, have you?

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Originally Posted by liberate_etu_me

if you are using pot to get high then you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god, the bible says ,about any substance that affects the workings of your mind or body is a sin if you use it to the point of becoming intoxicated. You can use it but if you use it as a means to alter your state of mind then you are committing a sin of your body which is supposed to be the temple of your god, therfore it is not keepping with the rules of this christian faith. think about that. i am not believer in god or karma. my faith is with myself and my own abilities. Jesus is and was the only true christian imho anything else is a manipulation of his beliefs to subjugate and control the ignorant masses at the time of its creation. look through hjistory and see there has been more death and destruction in the name of the christian god than any other cause ever thought up. keep the teachings of the bible but discard the rest as fodder for the weak minded and easily controlled.

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Almost everything we do is sin. Whatever is not of faith is sin. You'd be surprised how much sin you have that you're not even aware of. But the lesson in the saying, it's not what enters a man that defiles him, is that no sin can defile our faith.
Unlike religion, where you'll either be kicked out or not accepted because of sin. :asskick:

Didn't Jesus preach that one should never (and I mean *never*) commit violence, to always turn the other cheek, no matter what? How many of yas actually practice what the man preached? If you had a gun, and three guys were raping your mother/sister/father, you wouldn't cap their asses? You don't believe in self-defense? No wars are ever moral? We should've rolled over during WWII and ignored Japanese and German atrocities?

Absolute pacifists -- e.g. those who really practice what Jesus preached -- those are really the only ones I would personally consider 'true Christians'. Going to church on Sunday and giving lip service, then going home and voting for wars (*any* wars), or polishing a handgun, well, that's more than a wee bit hypocritical. And yet, that seems like the most common type of Christian, at least in my experience.

I'm *not* an absolute pacifist, which is why I cannot in good conscience call myself a Christian; I believe self-defense is fine, even if the Son of God says that's not so. I believe there are times when violence isn't just okay, but even a moral imperative -- even if the Son of God says that's not so. I would, therefor, consider myself a hypocrite if I *did* label myself Christian.

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if you are using pot to get high then you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god, the bible says ,about any substance that affects the workings of your mind or body is a sin if you use it to the point of becoming intoxicated. You can use it but if you use it as a means to alter your state of mind then you are committing a sin of your body which is supposed to be the temple of your god, therfore it is not keepping with the rules of this christian faith. think about that. i am not believer in god or karma. my faith is with myself and my own abilities. Jesus is and was the only true christian imho anything else is a manipulation of his beliefs to subjugate and control the ignorant masses at the time of its creation. look through hjistory and see there has been more death and destruction in the name of the christian god than any other cause ever thought up. keep the teachings of the bible but discard the rest as fodder for the weak minded and easily controlled.

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If you use cannabis for a medicinal reason is that also a sin in the lords eyes? Just curious....Christian here, although I don't go to church anymore, I pray everyday and follow what the lord would want me to do. Personally, I find no problem in my smoking as it's to ease my medical condition. Also, just because someone doesnt go to church it doesnt mean hes not a devout(Sp) christian. My family stopped going to church, and I'm the only one out of all my friends that are a christian :( I know this is not a good excuse, but I'm waiting to find a significant other or friend that I can go to church with, as going to a new church by myself seems too hard for me to pursue...

If you ever find yourself in a tough position, just pray. The lord works in mysterous ways my friends:)

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Didn't Jesus preach that one should never (and I mean *never*) commit violence, to always turn the other cheek, no matter what? How many of yas actually practice what the man preached? If you had a gun, and three guys were raping your mother/sister/father, you wouldn't cap their asses? You don't believe in self-defense? No wars are ever moral? We should've rolled over during WWII and ignored Japanese and German atrocities?

Absolute pacifists -- e.g. those who really practice what Jesus preached -- those are really the only ones I would personally consider 'true Christians'. Going to church on Sunday and giving lip service, then going home and voting for wars (*any* wars), or polishing a handgun, well, that's more than a wee bit hypocritical. And yet, that seems like the most common type of Christian, at least in my experience.

I'm *not* an absolute pacifist, which is why I cannot in good conscience call myself a Christian; I believe self-defense is fine, even if the Son of God says that's not so. I believe there are times when violence isn't just okay, but even a moral imperative -- even if the Son of God says that's not so. I would, therefor, consider myself a hypocrite if I *did* label myself Christian.

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you have a God given right to defend your self and your love ones
God is not a fool, what jesus was talking about when He said turn
the other check was centered on some one ofending you, we are not to return insult for insult. we have a God given right to defend are selfs from all kinds of evil, once again we can not take a verse
out of context.:)

Well, *you* say we have a God-given right to defend ourselves, but that isn't what Jesus taught.

Here are some examples:

"But I say to you, Offer the wicked man no resistance. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; if a man takes you to law and would have your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone orders you to go one mile, go two miles with him."

No self-defense there. It's pretty clear what he's saying: if people hurt you, allow it. You can also go to the 10 Commandments: "thou shalt not kill". There are no exceptions; it doesn't say "thou shalt not kill unless someone is trying to kill you" or anything like that.

More from Jesus:

""Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who treat you badly."

"You know the commandments: you must not kill..."

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."

So, while you may think you have a God-given right to self-defense, Jesus would not agree with you. That puts you in a disagreement with the Son of God, and I'm pretty sure He wins all those arguments. This means that you aren't *really* Christian, as I am not, because while I don't think God gave me the right to self-defense, I assert that right for myself, despite the fact that it is the antithesis of what Jesus taught.

There are many more examples of Jesus' pacifism of course.