Contorting clones, among other things
OK I am having a problem with some of my clones. On some I had yellowing, leaves and branches growing scrunched and a few brown crispy spots. Some hade only one sign, some had a few and others are totally fine. I have many variables such as adding very lite nutes as recommended by the product, moving them under the 400MH, and losing a timer so not having nighttime heat stability that they were used too. With so many variables I didn't know what was going on. So I set it up like a lab experiment and charted all my information and made some connections and identified clusters. I noticed that my early clones were more affected and the occurances became less as I cloned more. I did some research and found that when left in rockwool cubes then planted strait into soil there were a few unconsistant variables. So I would periodically gently pull them out and check for nubs. The two clones that are the worst were the first to grow roots, but in the etra day it took to get everything ready they grew into the cube. So I pulled the cubes apart carefully around the roots then planted them. So I have come to the concusion that most of my clone problem is the result of stress to the roots system. The yellowing on some is consistent with nute def from directing energy towards rooting. And the two that have slight burns are probaly the result of the root systems of a few not being quite ready when I started with the recommended very light nutes. I don't think the nutes caused the contorting because most of the plants new growth appears to be growing properly, and the ones that have contorted new growth are a little newer. So all I can really do is wait and see if my theory holds true. Luckily I have enough healthy clones to keep my strains alive, and a few clones just now rooting to watch and observe.
But hey this is my first grow and I'd rather play now so I know for later. As time goes on I'll have more oppertunities to experiment once I have my bonsai moms going that I'll have to take clippings I don't need off anyways.
Any theories, thoughs, questions or suggestions, feel free to shoot, cause I'm here to learn.
Contorting clones, among other things
I don't understand. You say this is your first grow, but you have 70 pictures of weed plants in various stages of maturity and health. Which is it?
You certainly put a lot of thought and work into these clones. I don't get nearly that involved and usually have very good results in hydro by following these steps:
1) I use a cheapo areo cloner to get my cuttings rooted. Light 24 hours. Bubbles 20 min. on and 45 off. (or something like that), except the first day is on all day. No nutes in the solution except a little B1 to stimulate root growth. I make sure the stems are out of the water by a couple of inches. As soon as roots start showing up, I start hardening them, very carefully and gently at first. These means I take the humidity dome off for as long as they can stand, watching closely for signs of wilt before I put it back on. Also, I change the solution as much as I can stand. At least once per day the first two days, then once every 3 or 4 days.
2) Once in the real world, I keep the light (400 watts) at least 2 feet away the first day or two, 18 hours on and 6 off, and use quarter strength nutes. After a few days, I switch to half strength, and start moving the light closer in increments daily. After a couple of weeks, it's full on hydro and light.
I've never had much of a problem in hydro. All my problems occur in soil for some reason. I think soil makes it harder to get the nutrients correct.
But hey, that's just me. Good luck.
Contorting clones, among other things
Thanks you for visitind Opie. actuallty this is my first grow to make it past 3 weeks, and at that age they were only about 5" all and very sad, I turned them all into males. That was also a few years ago and y knowledge was to stick a seed in the dirt under a light give it waater and let it grow.
The most recent picks are first to appear in my album, so to see them smaller and work your way up start at the back. I admit I go a little pic crazy., I've actually downsized.
As for the clone thing I think I caused the whole problem by removing the clones from the rockwool cubes and stressing the roots, but I won'r know for sure til I try cloning somemore.
Contorting clones, among other things
Oh, and I never use rockwool anymore. Myself and many others think that it's too difficult to maintain a proper moisture level using rockwool. It holds in too much water, which can lead to root rot, mold, etc.
Contorting clones, among other things
Yeah I was reading that, and how later on if the plant grows into the cube and the cube is then planted it causes proplems with moisture ansd such. That's why I try to let them just root then pull them out and plant them in soil. I probably should make myself an easy cloner of some sort but I have tons of excuses. Really I need to work out kinks and just keep my head above water(the story of my life). Hopefully after this harvest I'll be better off to expand and upgrade. But till then I paidfor the rock wool and it was suggested by a few people so I'll use them up and see how godd I get at it, once they are all used up I'll either pick up more, or try another method. I like to give things an honest shot before I say it doesn't work for me. It was only a 45 pack and with my cloning experiments coming up in the next few days my supply is shinking.