Did yall get the same results? (green dragon)

I want to try the method of preparing bud as shown below. Have any of yall tried this mehtod of making green dragon before? I mean id love to just place one drop of this tincture under my tongue and get high instead of smoking it. The autor said that one drop will get him high and two will give him a "spiritual high." Well i want to try this method and see if anyone else has gotten the same results. The following was taken from Green Dragon Recipes (Marijuana Drink).



Large Batches

Master Wu, a poster at Cannabis.com, has developed an efficient, quick, and relatively safe method for making large batches of green dragon. The main differences between his method and my crude stove method are:
Chopping the weed. This accelerates the extraction process.
Baking the weed prior to extraction. This converts THCA into THC and significantly increases the strength of the extract.
Using a larger, wider pan with more water surface area. The additional water vapor decreases the risk of explosion or fire.

Note: Some ovens vary in temperature range from the actual number listed on the dial. If you overheat the weed, then you'll lose all the THC into the air, and you'll probably get high from opening the oven door. For this reason, you may want to first test the temperature cycle of the oven using a thermometer. Be sure to remove the red plastic piece from the top of the thermometer so it doesn't melt inside the oven. THC vaporizes at 392 °F, so be sure the thermometer never exceeds 350 °F. Alternatively, you can use a lower temperature and longer period of time, such as 200 °F for 20 minutes (pre-heat first). This eliminates the possibility of being too hot (vaporization of THC and cannabinoids) or too cold (THCA will not get you high). Also, some of the other cannabinoids vaporize at temperatures as low as 260 °F, so using a lower baking temperature will give a better and more natural high than THC alone.

Master Wu provides a link in his recipe below, and here are some additional references about decarboxylation of THCA:
Decarboxylation
Chemical and Botanical Aspects of Cannabis
[ctrl]+ [F] and search for "THCA"

Here is Master Wu's recipe, copied with permission:

The Definitive Green Dragon (Cannabis Tincture)

Here is the very successful result of a considerable amount of research into the elusive and magical Green Dragon.

This is a simple and efficient 4 Step process.

Ingredients:
1/8oz high quality cannabis
2 oz Bacardi Rum – 151 proof


Process Summary:

1. Chop cannabis very fine (coffee grinder works great)

2. Place in a shallow pan (pie pan with aluminum foil works great) and bake at 325 °F for 4-5 minutes.

3. Remove from oven and place cannabis and place in 2 oz of rum (use a small wide mouth mason jar)

4. Simmer in a water bath for 20 minutes. Maintain temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture between 150 °F – 165 °F.

5. Strain the mixture and store.


Dosage:
One eyedropper is very nice. Two puts you in space. But you should self-titrate. Effects take about 1.5 hours to begin (at least in myself) and lasted for 5 hours (1 dropper) to 7-8 hours (2 droppers).


Process details—references and rationalizations:
1. Chop the cannabis—more surface area gives means a faster and more efficient extraction.

2. Bake the cannabis.
In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated during cooking, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich tincture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to extracting it through an alcohol soak. (from Vancouver Island Compassion Society The VICS Recipes: Cannabutter)

THC vaporizes at about 380 °F. We want to heat the cannabis to convert THCA to THC, but keep the temperature under 380 °F. That is why 325 °F is used. Between four and five minutes your oven (and house) will start to smell very strong. This is the time to remove the cannabis from the oven.

Notice also that there is considerable misinformation regarding heating the cannabis. It is true that you don't have to heat it to extract both THC and THCA, but the amount of THC in whole plant preparations is relatively small compared to after decarboxylation of the THCA. So if you want to maximize the strength of your tincture you must heat the cannabis prior to extraction.

3. Use the highest proof alcohol available. In my area this was Bacardi 151. The more alcohol the more efficient the extraction will be.

4. Simmer the mixture.
This is one of the areas that seems to be most debated. Many recipes call for placing the cannabis (unbaked of course) into the alcohol and waiting 2 – 6 weeks. The main concern with heating the alcohol is that it is “explosive” (not exactly true...it is however flammable).

The purpose of the simmering is to heat the alcohol mixture to improve extraction rates and efficiencies. Heating during extraction increases the motion of the molecules (basic physics/chemistry) and drastically decreases extraction times. The boiling point of pure ethanol is 173 °F (78 °C). We will use the water bath to heat the rum/cannabis mixture to just below the boiling point of ethanol.

Heating the alcohol mixture can be done very safely using a hot water bath. You will need an accurate candy or quick read thermometer. Place about 1 inch of water in a wide, vertical-edged pan (9” wide x 3” high). Bring the water to a low simmer. The rum/cannabis mixture should be in a small (1 pint) mason jar. Do NOT cover the jar.

Put the thermometer into the mason jar and place into the simmering water bath. Bring the temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture to about 165 °F (I maintain it between 150 °F and 165 °F). You want the alcohol mixture to be just barely moving (not boiling, but showing active convection within the mixture). If the mixture starts to bubble too much, just turn down the water bath.

You should have the oven fan on high. You will notice that any alcohol fumes are mixed with water vapor from the water bath and vented out the fan. This combined with the fact that you are trying not to boil the ethanol makes the process quite safe.

5. Strain, titrate, and store.
When you are finished with the extraction you will be left with about 1oz of green dragon tincture. Note that one ounce of the alcohol has evaporated.

Now you should test your eyedropper. In my test 34 full droppers equaled one ounce of liquid (this is a little less than one gram of liquid per dropperful as 29g equals 1ounce).

The liquid should be dark green and smell like cannabis.

6. Dosage.
Everybody is probably different. It takes me 1.5 hours to feel the effects of eating cannabis. Similarly this tincture also takes 1.5 hours to take effect.

I had tried a tincture someone had made using the cold extraction method with the same amount of cannabis and found that 5 droppers did pretty much nothing.

Using my Green Dragon technique I find that one dropper will bring effects on in 1.5 hours and last 5 hours with 1.5 hours of lingering aftereffects.

Two droppers gave me a "spiritual dose" (as strong as any brownie I ever had). Effects lasted 7-8 hours with lingering effects for 2 more hours.

This means that 1/8oz of good cannabis yields about 30-34 doses of tincture (1 dropperful is really all I need). And is much more pleasant than smoking (which really is bad for you and your lungs and the reason I've stopped smoking entirely).


This link might be helpful.
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Enjoy and let me know of your success and/or questions.


Master Wu
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i used to make green dragon some years ago, when i had plenty of weed (good times :jointsmile:) i used to follow about the same steps of this recipe, and it worked very well. i didnt put the green dragon under the tongue, but mixed it with coke (or another drink to made it more 'drinkable', as i dont like to drink something which is almost pure alcohol), and used to have very good results. the efects (at least for me) were more a body high, but very enjoyable... and much more lasting than smoking weed.
a really good thing to do is, when you're at the peak of the effect of green dragon (some 1.30-2.00 hours after drink), smoke some strong sativa stuff. the body high of green dragon and the mind high of the sativa combine for a *very* powerful effect :D :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :thumbsup:

this method never worked for me, maybe I have to play with the decarboxylation a bit... either 200 degrees in the oven for 20 minutes or at 325 for 5 minutes. I'll try it. maybe subboiling the bud in alcohol for longer.. I wonder how precise it all has to be to do it right if you want to try this sub-boiling method of extraction. Maybe heating it at subboiling is too much and burns up the thc, or maybe heating it doesn't really make the extraction process faster, and would have to wait that long while to make an extract.

there has to be a way to extract thc and make a tincture, maybe it would take lots of scientific equipment. Or making cannibis thc oil..