how come..

how come alot of atheists and agnostics can admit their speculations about god may be wrong, but christians, and other people who believe in god, can't admit they may be wrong? i dunno exactly where this question came from, it's 4:30 in the morning and i'm just sitting here thinking... and this popped in... but seriously, even i admit, i may be wrong in saying there is no god (although that doesn't mean i'm going to pick up a bible and start thumpin' around) but i have never met even one christian, who can admit that they MAY be wrong...

any speculation into this matter?

I've noticed a similar thing among many "new age" people too.
Perhaps it's out of fear. Perhaps they believe in an insecure God who will punish them for doubting him!

I believe in God, but I believe that God wants nothing, and that God is part of me and all that is. It's a belief though, not a fact :)

The most obvious answer is they're under the threat of hell if they dare to even doubt. But on consideration it goes much deeper than that. There's something in man's make-up that says 'threaten my beliefs and I'll hate you'. That seems to go for any belief or ideology-even political beliefs. You can see it even with a bumpersticker. Stick on "God is not a Republican' or that fish with legs that says 'Darwin' in the center, and watch the vicious scowls you'll get. You can see the hatred in their eyes.

That's why you have Jehods, witch hunts, snipers at abortion clinics.....the only sane people in the world are those who question EVERYTHING.

I think you're ignoring a lot of openminded christians, I think I've even come across a couple of them here on the boards.

But as for your topic, actually, I've noticed a trend among atheists to act the same way. In that they refuse to accept other possibilities outside of what they've established for themselves.

Once upon a time I had this theory that found correlation between atheism and catholicism (since a catholic upbringing is one of the surest ways to bring about an atheist youth) and held that the mode of belief never changes, simply the object of belief. So the idea of "god" or "no god" is ascribed to with equal and in fact identical fanaticism.

thoughts?

I think your talking about the far right Christians or the born again Christians who are a fucking hazard in my opinion. Chirstianity has to be, out of the all the religious regimentations, probaly the most open minded, that's why its the most popular religion in the World.

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Originally Posted by MegaOctane12

I think your talking about the far right Christians or the born again Christians who are a fucking hazard in my opinion. Chirstianity has to be, out of the all the religious regimentations, probaly the most open minded, that's why its the most popular religion in the World.

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I dont think that is why it is most popular. It didn't spread across the world because it was so great it was spread by blood



I just think atheists arn't so tied to their beliefs. If it turned out there was budda or whatever, sweet.

I am an atheist because i think it is the most reasonable belief (no offence)
so if new information came to light i would change my belief

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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho

how come alot of atheists and agnostics can admit their speculations about god may be wrong, but christians, and other people who believe in god, can't admit they may be wrong? i dunno exactly where this question came from, it's 4:30 in the morning and i'm just sitting here thinking... and this popped in... but seriously, even i admit, i may be wrong in saying there is no god (although that doesn't mean i'm going to pick up a bible and start thumpin' around) but i have never met even one christian, who can admit that they MAY be wrong...

any speculation into this matter?

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I've been indirectly labeled a "Reiligious nut" on these boards, lol! :D I have my beliefs, and they stem from the Bible, but I'm quite open minded. There is a lot of grey area when it comes to religious thought, and the black and white views seem grossly outdated to me.

Some would call me a Christian since I follow Jesus' teachings, but I certainly wouldn't count myself among the flock. I view Jesus as a teacher first and foremost...like Ghandi, and the Buddha. I was raised Christian, so Jesus gets the credit for what I believe. Did Jesus save me? He saved me from myself, so yes...


Much Love,

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Originally Posted by harris7

I dont think that is why it is most popular. It didn't spread across the world because it was so great it was spread by blood



I just think atheists arn't so tied to their beliefs. If it turned out there was budda or whatever, sweet.

I am an atheist because i think it is the most reasonable belief (no offence)
so if new information came to light i would change my belief

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Totaly disagree man, I'm no theologian, but I know that countrys like Africa for example, and the majority of its states adopted Christianity, so that pretty much flattens the blood ties argument. Given though that's mainly because of economical reasons.

You don't see people blowing themselves up in the name of the Church but you do get fanaticals who practice their own literal interperetations over what's actually there. This is in every faith and if you want to point the finger I could think of alot worse. I think that if Religion were a competition Christianity would be the closest thing to perfect, although its not even close.

So I totally disagree man, even the most extreme Christian fundamentalist, at worse, setbacks society, he dosen't destroy it. I think you need to take that into account if you want to draw comparisons between the different faiths around.

I think there are plenty of christians and atheists who are open to the idea that they're wrong, but nobody on these boards has a debate to convince their opponent of "here's why I may be wrong: number one......". Everybody arives at their conclusions, at least for the most part, because it seems like the most logical answer to them. I'm an atheist, but that's not because it's my "religion" that I blindly cling to (as many theists try to argue), but because there's no logical reason to believe in god that I've yet seen. If somebody suddenly presents me with a reason to believe in god, something that isn't logically fallable, then I'll gladly become a believer.... not to mention let out a sigh of relief that I'm not going to blink out of existence one day.

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I think there are plenty of christians and atheists who are open to the idea that they're wrong, but nobody on these boards has a debate to convince their opponent of "here's why I may be wrong: number one......". Everybody arives at their conclusions, at least for the most part, because it seems like the most logical answer to them. I'm an atheist, but that's not because it's my "religion" that I blindly cling to (as many theists try to argue), but because there's no logical reason to believe in god that I've yet seen. If somebody suddenly presents me with a reason to believe in god, something that isn't logically fallable, then I'll gladly become a believer.... not to mention let out a sigh of relief that I'm not going to blink out of existence one day.

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I'm not sure what you meant there about nobody has a debate to convince their opponent? Which side are you referring. I've seen plenty of good logical debate against the exsistance of God, but religious people are incapable of listening to it. If you think about it there are logically reasons to belief in God. Economical, cultural reasons; and many other thing's. Logic to someone who dosen't share your belief, whatever that may be, would be alien to you and vise versa. Its not about whether God is factual or that it can be proven. Its whether having faith in God has a purpose either way.