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10-25-2006, 07:58 PM
Where'sMYPrivacy?

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Hey all,

I was wondering whether anyone might know about gender specificity in a drug screen. Basicall, here's the thing.

I'll likely be peein in a cup sometime in the next few days. There is no way in HELL I would pass a drug screen...I love my herbs. Anyhow, my grilfreind is squeeky clean and I was thinkin about usin her piss as a sub at my screen. I went ahead a got some QF 4.0, but was thinkin, now after reading a few horror stories about QF, about dumpin a bottle and havin my girlfriend take a wizz in it for me. That will basically turn the Quick Fix bottle into the most expensive temperature strip ever, but at least I wouldn't have to worry about them recognizing my synthetic pee.

Sorry for the drag out...basically should I bother with the quick fix if my GF will pee for me...can they test for gender?...or should I just use the QF seein as I bought it anyway?

Thanks...
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10-25-2006, 11:19 PM
Burnt Toast

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Gender does not matter in a drug test, despite what the anti-drug, pro-drug test, fear mongering propagandists try to program into the minds of the uninformed. The truth is, drug testing devices have no ability at all to determine if the sample came from a male or female. The devices can only detect the presence of drug metabolites. Only a genetic test can tell where the sample came from. And unless you are a criminal tangled up within the legal system (which nearly all rights are virtually relinquished), it is prohibited by law for labs to perform genetic tests without the donors written consent. They can only test the temperature, ph, creatinine, specific gravity, and look for drug metabolites.

With that being said, any human sample can be used for a sub as long as its drug free.

Horror stories of the Quick Fix?! Where did you read these at? The only time a person can fail with synthetic urine is if they used an expired batch with all of the urine components (creatinine, sg, ph, etc) broken down, or if they did not get the temperature right.

I've used the QF successfully since 2001 and passed my last UA with it in June of this year. I also home test my QF batches (using the Urinecheck 7 adulteration test strip) to make sure that all of the urine components will pass before going to the clinic. :thumbsup:
10-26-2006, 12:35 AM
SantaClawz

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Im glad someone posted it, cause im thinkin about using some of my wifes urine. Hopefully they wont be asking me how I got pregnant...
10-26-2006, 02:24 AM
Where'sMYPrivacy?

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thanks Burnt...don't mean to throw your head into a tizzy about QF 4.0

I read a post in another thread that said a lab tech collecting the sample took one look at it and in like fifteen seconds tagged it as a phony. That didn't seem very reliable to me so I thought I'd ask. Apart from that and a few stories about expired batches that fail...I never heard anything but good news about QF....you're right on about that one. Still...I feel strangely reassured in handing them a human sample instead...even if it's from the opposite sex.

:thumbsup: but thanks for the info on gender testing...I didn't think they could test for gender without consent...I didn't think they could go that far...but they are testing so, who knows...
10-26-2006, 03:50 AM
bavet

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Depending on who dose the testing and where, will depend on weather or not they bother with the temp. Ive had em done for drug alcohal crap, and had to go to the hospital. they tested the temp there, aslo for a job at a clinical lab, they also looked at the temp. But for my other drug alcohal at another place, they just had me go down to the bathroom and bring back a sample to drop off at the desk before I left, when they moved to another building did the same thing only dropped it back off at the office with the counceler and watched him just put it aside for later. I would just put a bit of pee in ,then warm water and shake it up, passed every time, Other times when I knew the sink was chained down. I'd bring some made at home and keep it warm in my pants by my crotch (very uncomfortable by the way) then just pour it in their cup and hand it to them when I came out. all good hehe:thumbsup: Gender doesn't matter.
10-26-2006, 11:04 PM
Burnt Toast

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaClawz

Im glad someone posted it, cause im thinkin about using some of my wifes urine. Hopefully they wont be asking me how I got pregnant...

The old pregnant story is another myth thats often used as a scare tactic by the propagandists in order to discourage cheating on drug tests. Dont fall for such BS.
It would take a seperate pregnancy test to determine if a donor is pregnant. This test is totally outside the scope of drug testing and therefore illegal for labs to perform pregnancy tests on a urine sample without the donors written consent.

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Originally Posted by Where'sMYPrivacy?

I didn't think they could test for gender without consent...I didn't think they could go that far...but they are testing so, who knows...

Labs in the US are bound down by regulations and protocols on what they can test for and what not. Conducting unauthorized tests that are outside the scope of drug testing can result in some serious legal consequences for the lab in which the donor can be entitled to civil damages.

Know your rights and never be afraid to assert those rights firmly.
10-27-2006, 04:26 PM
FakeBoobsRule

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaClawz

Im glad someone posted it, cause im thinkin about using some of my wifes urine. Hopefully they wont be asking me how I got pregnant...

Like burnt toast said there are ways to determine gender but it is illegal to do so on a sample. Any test done has to be with your consent thanks to all of our lawyers. But, just as a funny joke, if they think the sample came from a man and they ran a pregnancy test on it, it would suggest you had prostate cancer because the same hormones that are tested in a pregnancy test are also elevated in male urine when a man has prostate cancer.