Iraq war justifications laid bare

GET OUT OF IRAQ!!!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5329350.stm

The Senate Intelligence Committee has found no evidence of links between the regime of Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

In a report issued on Friday, it also found that was little or no evidence to support a raft of claims made by the US intelligence community concerning Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

The 400-page report was three years in the making, and is probably the definitive public account of the intelligence used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

One starting point is this:

In a poll conducted this month by Opinion Research Corporation for CNN, a sample of American adults was asked: "Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the 11 September terrorist attacks, or not?"

Forty-three percent of those polled answered yes, they believed Saddam was personally involved.

Even though it is well-established that Saddam Hussein was no ally of al-Qaeda, nor did he possess weapons of mass destruction, the original justifications for the invasion for Iraq linger on, often in ways that have strangely mutated on their journey through politics and media.

Cheney claims 'untrue'

In fact, the intelligence agencies had been extremely cautious in suggesting links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

It was Vice-President Dick Cheney who asserted most strongly in public that Saddam Hussein's regime and al-Qaeda had an operational relationship.

In a television interview in September 2003, he said there was "a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s... al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained... the Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organisation."

It was "clearly official policy" on the part of Iraq, he said.

Friday's report, issued by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, provides another definitive statement that that assertion is simply not true.

It says that debriefings conducted since the invasion of Iraq "indicate that Saddam issued a general order that Iraq should not deal with al-Qaeda. No post-war information suggests that the Iraqi regime attempted to facilitate a relationship with [Osama] Bin Laden.

"Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda... refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support."

Administration confusion

The report supports the intelligence community's finding that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - the man who was al-Qaeda's chief operative in Iraq between the invasion and his death in June this year - was indeed in Baghdad in 2002.

Was this an Iraqi link to al-Qaeda?

No, says the report. Far from harbouring him, Saddam's regime was trying to find and capture him.

But the Bush administration has a way, still, of confusing this issue.

As recently as 21 August this year, President Bush said that Saddam "had relations with Zarqawi".

The Senate report is scathing of the intelligence community's product concerning Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

"Post-war findings", it reads, "do not support the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate judgement that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

Nor do "post-war findings" support the 2002 NIE's assertions that Iraq had chemical or biological weapons.

Political fallout

It remains to be seen if the Democrats can use the Senate report to damage the Republican Party in the run-up to Congressional elections in November by reminding the American public of the intelligence debacle that preceded the invasion of Iraq, and ascribing that failure to the leadership of the Bush administration.

It is far from clear they'll be able to do so.

The president has been extremely active in the last week, selling his successes in the "war on terror" in a series of speeches; demanding Congress give him greater powers to fight it; and announcing that the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks will be brought to trial.

The Democratic Party still seems unable to find a concerted critique of President Bush's handling of the "war on terrorism" and the conflict in Iraq, without themselves appearing defeatist.

Well, I don't think anyone else is gonna be trying Saddam's Ambiguity Game anymore. He wanted to keep people wondering whether he did or didn't have WMDs, especially the country he considered his worst enemy, Iran. He didn't think the U.S. would invade, didn't consider the U.S. his biggest enemy. The irony: the country he DID consider his worst enemy is also a country WE consider one of OUR worst enemies. The enemy of my enemy is...hmm, guess he's an enemy too.

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

Well, I don't think anyone else is gonna be trying Saddam's Ambiguity Game anymore. He wanted to keep people wondering whether he did or didn't have WMDs, especially the country he considered his worst enemy, Iran. He didn't think the U.S. would invade, didn't consider the U.S. his biggest enemy. The irony: the country he DID consider his worst enemy is also a country WE consider one of OUR worst enemies. The enemy of my enemy is...hmm, guess he's an enemy too.

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Noting the stupidity of the Bush administration, I really don't know how they got away with what they did in Iraq, and even 9/11. The media fails to tell you that Iraq was secular under Saddam, yet they claimed Saddam harbored Al-Qaeda members.

No....Saddam and Osama did not like each other one bit.

Bush and co. are really fucking stupid Nazis, but I'm pretty sure they knew people would find out their little fascism game. They really don't cover their tracks well.

Lol...come on...hijacking airplanes with boxcutters??? Give me a break!! :dance:

We went to Iraq to fight radical islam...and

get on each side of Iran...so we can kick the shit out of them next.



GS......12th Imam....Hummmmmm?


Mohammed was a false prophet.......

Hate to burst your neo-con bubble...BUT IRAQ WAS SECULAR!!!!! Geez.....

3 words for ya buddy....
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